Quantum Science Audio Thread

I'm waiting for delivery of a yellow fuse to replace a Synergistic orange one. In the meantme I was wondering, what combinations of power cords are members using in conjunction with the QS fuses? Are some cords more sympatico than others? Everything matters.

SR Level III power cords here. Prior to the SR cords, I was using cords built by David Magan. The SR's were a substantial upgrade.

Frank

I've been using Maze Audio Ref 4 power cords for awhile now, but just ordered one of the new ones from GR Research to try out (the B24). 
The Maze Audio ones certainly sound good for the price (running SR Orange fuses in the devices they're connected to).
After a few weeks break in on the GR Research cord (should be here on Friday), I'll have a better idea of which ones sound better to me (at least in what scenario).

And, yep....couldn't agree more. Everything matters.

 I got an idea. Put two fuses in Parallel, with the arrows in each direction! Then let the electrons themselves decide. Plus, double your profits. Wow, like every other electron would pick the opposite fuse, man. 

yoby,
My power cords:
I am using the Synergistic Galileo SX on my source, an Audioquest Dragon High Current on my Niagara 7000 conditioner and the Nova power cords on my amps.

ozzy

An update on my yellow fuses that replace the SR orange.  I installed one in my Lampi Pacific and listened for a couple of days and slowly added one to my Pre-amp and Mono Amps.  At first blush there was an improvement in clarity so I was happy,  I then pasted the end caps with 1260 and went on vacation for a week.  When I came back and listened to my music something major happened.  I could not believe the difference.  Better Clarity, 3D imaging, Soundstage and increased separation of instruments.  

I am debating upgrading one fuse to Red in my Lampi as I think the source of my music is most critical.  Man I wish there was a lending library as the $1400 price for a fuse blows my mind.  

A quick update on my new GR Research B24 power cable.

When I first plugged it in, I was pretty pleased with it. Sounded pretty good. 
As I have listened to it over the last few days, I could literally hear the sound changing as the hours ticked by, and not necessarily for the better.
The music actually started to sound a bit distorted at one point, especially at higher volumes. Made me scratch my head a little bit, but the result/phenomenon was absolutely real.

For a A/B, (and to make sure I wasn't "hearing things"), I currently have the new B24 cable unplugged and a broken-in Maze Ref4 Power cable back in the system on my Classe preamp.

I'm going to revisit the GR Research cable this week and continue to let it settle in, but it needs to show some improvement soon, or this sucker's going back. Hopefully it's just breaking in (I think GR Research recommends 200 hours), but this is some of the most brutal break-in I've experienced on a cable so far.

Hi coralkong: My experience has been that some power cords can take a long time to break in. Sometimes weeks. The break in period can be like a roller coaster ride, sounding good for a while and then like crap for a while until fully run in. I suggest taking a little more time with the break in before ditching the GRs. You may be rewarded in spades. Good listening. Jeff

Thanks Jeff. I'm definitely going to give it more time......

Again,
any of you guys using these Fuse(s) in a CD/SACD player?

Happy Listening!

                                      This is just a bump fest for "snake oil"



A fuse:
1: two end caps
2: short piece of fuse wire connecting the two end caps through a glass tube (that’s all she wrote).

To those "non technical" members that are interested, do not listen to fusers, listen to the techs of this industry that design the audio products you have.
AND YOU WON"T SEE THEM ON THREADS LIKE THIS AGREEING WITH FUSERS ABOUT THE SOUND IMPROVMENT DETAILS AND AC FUSE PLACEMENT DIRECTION, EVER!!!

Just clean and tighten your fuse holder and re-new your fuse (if old) with a good quality 50cent Bussman, Littlefuse or similar.
As with "many switch-on surges" they do deteriorate, bend, stretch and get crusty with electrolysis formations on their fusible wire elements before they give out, as these pics show the same fuse wire element ageing over time show. https://ibb.co/Vvx39mg
(even the $$$ boutique ones will age just as much also)

Cheers to those "non fusers" George

Anyone tried the red fuse?  In what component?  How did it compare to themyellow or violet?

A fuse:
1: two end caps
2: short piece of fuse wire connecting the two end caps through a glass tube (that’s all she wrote).

To those "non technical" members that are interested, do not listen to fusers, listen to the technicians of this industry that design your audio products that you have.

AND YOU WON"T SEE THEM ON THREADS LIKE THIS AGREEING WITH THESE FUSERS ABOUT THE SONIC IMPROVMENT DETAILS, AND EVEN MORE ABSURD, AC MAINS FUSE PLACEMENT DIRECTION!!

Just do this before spending your hard earned dollars, and giving it to these very suspect website outlets .

Just clean and tighten your fuse holder and re-new your fuse (if old) with a good quality 50cent Bussman, Littlefuse or similar.
As with "many switch-on surges" they do deteriorate, bend, stretch and get crusty with electrolysis formations on their fusible wire elements before they give out, as these pics show of a fuse wire element ageing over time show. https://ibb.co/9NbTwqK
(even the $$$ boutique ones will age just as much also)

Cheers to those "non fusers" George

⬆️ What a tired and bad joke. ⬆️

It's fact, and your fiction

FACT: Audiophile Fuses Matter!!!
https://www.mcru.co.uk/audiophile-fuses-what/

FACT: George has never tried an audiophile fuse so his opinion on them doesn't matter. 

When he posts, click the little "Report this" flag. Select "Other". In the space below type "off topic".

Alternatively, select "abusive to another member" and explain how. Typically it is name-calling, with "fuser" being most popular. But he has others.

FACT: It is more effective to ignore and report than engage. He never does engage anyway. All it gets you is more insults.

For proof of this FACT, please see above.

FACT: Audiophile Fuses Matter!!!
https://www.mcru.co.uk/audiophile-fuses-what/

😂😂😂😂And you guys believe what this half baked website says, The Don probably made it.😂😂😂😂😂😂



 A fuse:
1: two end caps
2: short piece of fuse wire connecting the two end caps through a glass tube (that’s all she wrote).

To those "non technical" members that are interested, do not listen to fusers, listen to the technicians of this industry that design your audio products that you have.

AND YOU WON"T SEE THEM ON THREADS LIKE THIS AGREEING WITH THESE FUSERS ABOUT THE SONIC IMPROVMENT DETAILS, AND EVEN MORE ABSURD, AC MAINS FUSE PLACEMENT DIRECTION!!

Just do this before spending your hard earned dollars, and giving it to these very suspect website outlets .

Just clean and tighten your fuse holder and re-new your fuse (if old) with a good quality 50cent Bussman, Littlefuse or similar.
As with "many switch-on surges" they do deteriorate, bend, stretch and get crusty with electrolysis formations on their fusible wire elements before they give out, as these pics show of a fuse wire element ageing over time show. https://ibb.co/9NbTwqK
(even the $$$ boutique ones will age just as much also)

Cheers to those "non fusers" George

There is an element of sadism at play here.
Not at all in keeping with the hobby.

@jafant,

I have not tried any fuses in a CD player.
HOWEVER, I just picked up a new-to-me modded Denon, and may take a look under the hood, see what’s in there and give it one a shot.

I imagine the "liquid" sound you get from a new fuse might compliment the tubes in it nicely. Probably have to wait a couple of weeks, though.....my audio budget has taken a beating lately and I need to refill the coffers, so to speak. :)

@yoby,

I moved the GR cable from my preamp to my amp, and that seems to have made any fluctuations in sound more tolerable. I’m sure it’s still "breaking in/settling down", but at least it’s more tolerable now. Jury’s still out on this one......

@boxer12,

Agree 100%. Strange to have such a strong opinion on something if you’ve never actually tried it......All I'll add is that bumblebees couldn't fly for 75 years......yet fly they did. ;)

“Being ignorant is not so much a shame, as being unwilling to learn.”
― Benjamin Franklin


This quote says it all, to bad these close minded people continue to pollute the community and ad Nothing positive.. this is why the world is like it is now days. “Less harmless are those audio enthusiasts who are least secure: those whose toxic rage at a world that does not accept the authority of their opinions—a world that persists in enjoying recorded music in ways of which they do not approve—accomplishes nothing other than making our hobby seem repellent.”

--Art Dudley

coralkong

Thank You for the reply.  I am looking forward to One of you guys test-driving these Fuse(s) in a CD/SACD spinner.
Which modded Denon player did you purchase?

Happy Listening!

@Jafant,

https://www.underwoodhifi.com/modifications/dvd-3910
Ultimate mod edition w/ NOS Siemens CCA tubes.
It’s definitely got some meat to the sound. I’m thoroughly enjoying it.
Because it was modded so extensively, I will need to open it up and see what the current fuse(s) are rated for.

A fuse:
1: two end caps
2: short 10mm piece of fuse wire connecting the two end caps through a glass tube (that’s all she wrote).

To those "non technical" members that are interested, do not listen to fuse shillers, listen to the technicians of this industry that design the audio products you have.
AND YOU WON"T SEE THEM ON THREADS LIKE THIS AGREEING WITH FUSE SHILLERS ABOUT THE SOUND IMPROVMENT DETAILS AND AC FUSE PLACEMENT DIRECTION, EVER!!!

Just clean and tighten your fuse holder and re-new your fuse (if old) with a good quality 50cent Bussman, Littlefuse or similar.
As with "many switch-on surges" they do deteriorate, bend, stretch and get crusty with electrolysis formations on their fusible wire elements before they give out, as these pics show of a fuse wire element ageing over time show. https://ibb.co/9NbTwqK
(even the $$$ boutique ones will age just as much also)

Cheers George

  A fuse:
1: two end caps
2: short piece of fuse wire connecting the two end caps through a glass tube (that’s all she wrote).

To those "non technical" members that are interested, do not listen to, those with no technical proof, listen to the technicians of this industry that design the audio products you have.
AND YOU WON"T SEE THEM ON THREADS LIKE THIS AGREEING WITH POSTERS ABOUT THE SOUND IMPROVMENT DETAILS AND AC FUSE PLACEMENT DIRECTION, EVER!!!

Just clean and tighten your fuse holder and re-new your fuse (if old) with a good quality 50cent Bussman, Littlefuse or similar.
As with "many switch-on surges" they do deteriorate, bend, stretch and get crusty with electrolysis formations on their fusible wire elements before they give out, as these pics show of a fuse wire element ageing over time show. https://ibb.co/9NbTwqK
(even the $$$ boutique ones will age just as much also)

Cheers to those that listen George

  A fuse:
1: two end caps
2: short piece of fuse wire connecting the two end caps through a glass tube (that’s all she wrote).

To those "non technical" members that are interested in "maybe" wasting their money, do not listen to the non-technical, listen to the technicians of this industry that design the audio products you have and listen to.
AND YOU WON"T SEE THEM ON THREADS LIKE THIS AGREEING WITH WHAT SAID HERE ABOUT THE SOUND IMPROVMENT DETAILS AND AC FUSE PLACEMENT DIRECTION, EVER!!!

Just clean and tighten your fuse holder and re-new your fuse (if old) with a good quality 50cent Bussman, Littlefuse or similar.
As with "many switch-on surges" they do deteriorate, bend, stretch and get crusty with electrolysis formations on their fusible wire elements before they give out, as these pics show of a fuse wire element ageing over time show. https://ibb.co/9NbTwqK
(even the $$$ boutique ones will age just as much also)

Cheers George

cerberus79
A few months ago I purchased a used pair of speakers from another Agon member. To my surprise all the fuses were Orange fuses.
I listened to them and then to satisfy my curiosity I replaced them with ordinary buss fuses and could not hear a difference.
I did this test with a bunch of friends and neither I or them could hear a difference.

Kind of just says it all doesn’t it?
To those non technical thinking of purchasing. Just save your $150

Cheers George

"Kind of just says it all doesn’t it?"

https://positive-feedback.com/Issue54/fuses.htm

https://www.stereophile.com/content/hifi-tuning-fuses

https://positive-feedback.com/Issue74/fuses.htm

http://singaporehifi.blogspot.com/2014/01/aftermarket-fuses-synergistic-research.html

http://v2.stereotimes.com/post/quantum-science-audio-series-fuses/

https://positive-feedback.com/Issue51/hifi_tuning.htm

https://positive-feedback.com/Issue51/hifi_tuning.htm

http://www.stereotimes.com/acc082912.shtml

http://www.stereotimes.com/acc082912.shtml

http://highfidelity.pl/@main-650&lang=en

https://www.stereonet.com/forums/topic/256031-audiophile-fuses/


Etc, Etc, Etc... So there Ya Go!!!

Even a casual glance across the landscape- cars, houses, food, lawnmowers, watches, sunglasses - pretty much every single thing you can think of is made better by..... making it better. Every. Single. Thing.

How dense do you have to be to miss that?

Yet somehow out of an entire universe of things that are made better by making them better the one single sole exception is the fuse. The cheapest crappiest Buss fuse simply cannot be improved upon.

This is their position. Seriously. This is their position.  

It is not a question of making a better fuse.
It is a question of, by making it 'better', is this better fuse doing what is claimed.

Fuse wire is just that, NONE of these "snake oil" fuse companies have expressly said that they are manufacturing their own fuse wire!

Oh! and btw almost forgot!
A fuse:

1: two end caps
2: short piece of fuse wire connecting the two end caps through a glass tube (that’s all she wrote).

To those "non technical" members that are interested in "maybe" wasting their money, do not listen to the non-technical here, listen to the technicians of this industry that design the audio products you have and listen to.

AND YOU WON"T SEE THEM ON THREADS LIKE THIS AGREEING WITH WHAT SAID HERE ABOUT THE SOUND IMPROVMENT DETAILS AND AC FUSE PLACEMENT DIRECTION, EVER!!!

Just clean and tighten your fuse holder and re-new your fuse (if old) with a good quality 50cent Bussman, Littlefuse or similar.
As with "many switch-on surges" they do deteriorate, bend, stretch and get crusty with electrolysis formations on their fusible wire elements before they give out, as these pics show of a fuse wire element ageing over time show. https://ibb.co/9NbTwqK (even the $$$ boutique ones will age just as much also)

Cheers George

And.....for a couple of hundred dollars, with an iron-clad money back guarantee, you can hear an audiophile fuse for yourself!

Or take some wanker’s word for it who has never tried one, yet feels so strongly about it that he needs to post every page, at least 4 or 5 times saying the same thing......who has never even tried one, mind you.....but you do you and make your own decisions.

cerberus79
A few months ago I purchased a used pair of speakers from another Agon member. To my surprise all the fuses were Orange fuses.
I listened to them and then to satisfy my curiosity I replaced them with ordinary buss fuses and could not hear a difference.
I did this test with a bunch of friends and neither I or them could hear a difference.
Kind of just says it all doesn't it?

To those non technical thinking of purchasing this fuse Just save your $150+ and do this instead.

 A fuse:
1: two end caps
2: short piece of fuse wire connecting the two end caps through a glass tube (that’s all she wrote).
To those "non technical" members that are interested in "maybe" wasting their money, do not listen to the non-technical, listen to the technicians of this industry that design the audio products you have and listen to.
AND YOU WON"T SEE THEM ON THREADS LIKE THIS AGREEING WITH WHAT SAID HERE ABOUT THE SOUND IMPROVMENT DETAILS AND AC FUSE PLACEMENT DIRECTION, EVER!!!
Just clean and tighten your fuse holder and re-new your fuse (if old) with a good quality 50cent Bussman, Littlefuse or similar.As with "many switch-on surges" they do deteriorate, bend, stretch and get crusty with electrolysis formations on their fusible wire elements before they give out, as these pics show of a fuse wire element ageing over time show. https://ibb.co/9NbTwqK(even the $$$ boutique ones will age just as much also)

Cheers George

cerberus79
A few months ago I purchased a used pair of speakers from another Agon member.
To my surprise all the fuses were Orange fuses. I listened to them and then to satisfy my curiosity I replaced them with ordinary buss fuses and could not hear a difference.
I did this test with a bunch of friends and neither I or them could hear a difference. Kind of just says it all doesn't it?

To those non technical thinking of purchasing these $$$ fuses. Just save your $150+ and do this instead.

A fuse:
1: two end caps
2: short piece of fuse wire connecting the two end caps through a glass tube (that’s all she wrote).

To those "non technical" members that are interested in "maybe" wasting their money, do not listen to the non-technical, listen to the technicians of this industry that design the audio products you have and listen to. AND YOU WON"T SEE THEM ON THREADS LIKE THIS AGREEING WITH WHAT SAID HERE ABOUT THE SOUND IMPROVMENT DETAILS AND AC FUSE PLACEMENT DIRECTION, EVER!!!
Just clean and tighten your fuse holder and re-new your fuse (if old) with a good quality 50cent Bussman, Littlefuse or similar.As with "many switch-on surges" they do deteriorate, bend, stretch and get crusty with electrolysis formations on their fusible wire elements before they give out, as these pics show of a fuse wire element ageing over time show. https://ibb.co/9NbTwqK (even the $$$ boutique ones will age just as much also)

Cheers George

coralkong

Nice Denon spinner. Keep me posted as you massage this player into your system. We digital fans need more "modders" for our beloved CD/SACD players.   \m/

Happy Listening!

cerberus79
A few months ago I purchased a used pair of speakers from another Agon member.
To my surprise all the fuses were Orange fuses. I listened to them and then to satisfy my curiosity I replaced them with ordinary buss fuses and could not hear a difference.
I did this test with a bunch of friends and neither I or them could hear a difference. Kind of just says it all doesn't it?

To those non technical thinking of purchasing these $$$ fuses. Just save your $150+ and do this instead.

A fuse:
1: two end caps
2: short piece of fuse wire connecting the two end caps through a glass tube (that’s all she wrote).

To those "non technical" members that are interested in "maybe" wasting their money, do not listen to the non-technical, listen to the technicians of this industry that design the audio products you have and listen to. AND YOU WON"T SEE THEM ON THREADS LIKE THIS AGREEING WITH WHAT SAID HERE ABOUT THE SOUND IMPROVMENT DETAILS AND AC FUSE PLACEMENT DIRECTION, EVER!!!
Just clean and tighten your fuse holder and re-new your fuse (if old) with a good quality 50cent Bussman, Littlefuse or similar.As with "many switch-on surges" they do deteriorate, bend, stretch and get crusty with electrolysis formations on their fusible wire elements before they give out, as these pics show of a fuse wire element ageing over time show. https://ibb.co/9NbTwqK (even the $$$ boutique ones will age just as much also)

Cheers George

cerberus79
A few months ago I purchased a used pair of speakers from another Agon member.
To my surprise all the fuses were Orange fuses. I listened to them and then to satisfy my curiosity I replaced them with ordinary buss fuses and could not hear a difference.
I did this test with a bunch of friends and neither I or them could hear a difference. Kind of just says it all doesn't it?

To those non technical thinking of purchasing these $$$ fuses. Just save your $150+ and do this instead.

A fuse:
1: two end caps
2: short piece of fuse wire connecting the two end caps through a glass tube (that’s all she wrote).

To those "non technical" members that are interested in "maybe" wasting their money, do not listen to the non-technical, listen to the technicians of this industry that design the audio products you have and listen to. AND YOU WON"T SEE THEM ON THREADS LIKE THIS AGREEING WITH WHAT SAID HERE ABOUT THE SOUND IMPROVMENT DETAILS AND AC FUSE PLACEMENT DIRECTION, EVER!!!
Just clean and tighten your fuse holder and re-new your fuse (if old) with a good quality 50cent Bussman, Littlefuse or similar.As with "many switch-on surges" they do deteriorate, bend, stretch and get crusty with electrolysis formations on their fusible wire elements before they give out, as these pics show of a fuse wire element ageing over time show. https://ibb.co/9NbTwqK (even the $$$ boutique ones will age just as much also)

Cheers George

  I have all Synergistic orange fuses now. Is the general consensus  the yellow fuses are superior to the orange fuses ? I have read the thread here with some members saying they prefer this characteristic with the orange fuse but the yellow is superior in this area. 

   So, it's hard to form an opinion. Thought ?


  

Give one a shot and report back. ;) 

I think it depends on what you're putting the fuse into, and what you want out of it.

I am thinking of getting a red QSA fuse to replace a yellow one on my Lumin X1. There is a large cost difference. But, I may be willing if it adds to sound quality.

Can anyone provide their experience on the differences?

ozzy

I replaced the SR Orange fuse and installed the QSA Yellow fuse in the phono stage for the last listening session. This is the same QSA Yellow fuse that I was using in the line stage. Still some trade-offs. I’m beginning to think that the QSA yellow fuses take a long time to fully break in.

Another QSA yellow fuse has been shipped. It will go into the amp, replacing the SR Orange fuse currently in use there. At this point, I’m thinking there’s more detail and perceived clarity from the yellow fuse, but more midrange magic from the SR Orange fuses. Overall, from a musical standpoint, I’m preferring the SR Orange fuse. I’m going to keep a/b/a/b testing. Stay tuned.

As a side note, I’ve a/b/a tested for two of my audiophile friends. One is of the opinion that the QSA fuse really messes up the midrange. The other friend is like me ... he hears the advantages of both fuses.

Frank

I like the QSA Blue more than the SR Orange. Less forced sounding, smoother, better mids and more at ease. This is in my tube hybrid integrated amp. I will stick with the Blue. Love it! Three of them in my Int amp.


May be gear synergy dependent. 

Same here with the Blue. Sounds so good, got me keen to try the even better ones. 

cerberus79
A few months ago I purchased a used pair of speakers from another Agon member.
To my surprise all the fuses were Orange fuses. I listened to them and then to satisfy my curiosity I replaced them with ordinary buss fuses and could not hear a difference.
I did this test with a bunch of friends and neither I or them could hear a difference. Kind of just says it all doesn't it?

To those non technical thinking of purchasing these $$$ fuses. Just save your $150+ and do this instead.

A fuse:
1: two end caps
2: short piece of fuse wire connecting the two end caps through a glass tube (that’s all she wrote).

To those "non technical" members that are interested in "maybe" wasting their money, do not listen to the non-technical, listen to the technicians of this industry that design the audio products you have and listen to. AND YOU WON"T SEE THEM ON THREADS LIKE THIS AGREEING WITH WHAT SAID HERE ABOUT THE SOUND IMPROVMENT DETAILS AND AC FUSE PLACEMENT DIRECTION, EVER!!!
Just clean and tighten your fuse holder and re-new your fuse (if old) with a good quality 50cent Bussman, Littlefuse or similar.As with "many switch-on surges" they do deteriorate, bend, stretch and get crusty with electrolysis formations on their fusible wire elements before they give out, as these pics show of a fuse wire element ageing over time show. https://ibb.co/9NbTwqK (even the $$$ boutique ones will age just as much also)

Cheers George

Anyone compare the red to the purple or yellow?

ozzy

cerberus79
A few months ago I purchased a used pair of speakers from another Agon member.
To my surprise all the fuses were Orange fuses. I listened to them and then to satisfy my curiosity I replaced them with ordinary buss fuses and could not hear a difference.
I did this test with a bunch of friends and neither I or them could hear a difference. Kind of just says it all doesn't it?

To those non technical thinking of purchasing these $$$ fuses. Just save your $150+ and do this instead.

A fuse:
1: two end caps
2: short piece of fuse wire connecting the two end caps through a glass tube (that’s all she wrote).

To those "non technical" members that are interested in "maybe" wasting their money, do not listen to the non-technical, listen to the technicians of this industry that design the audio products you have and listen to. AND YOU WON"T SEE THEM ON THREADS LIKE THIS AGREEING WITH WHAT SAID HERE ABOUT THE SOUND IMPROVMENT DETAILS AND AC FUSE PLACEMENT DIRECTION, EVER!!!
Just clean and tighten your fuse holder and re-new your fuse (if old) with a good quality 50cent Bussman, Littlefuse or similar.As with "many switch-on surges" they do deteriorate, bend, stretch and get crusty with electrolysis formations on their fusible wire elements before they give out, as these pics show of a fuse wire element ageing over time show. https://ibb.co/9NbTwqK (even the $$$ boutique ones will age just as much also)

Cheers George

I have 4 yellows.  They are superior to Orange in detail and clarity and that is what I am looking for.  

Ozzy --looks like you and I are interested in upgrading the fuse in our DAC to RED  ---in my case Lampi Pacific.  Let's flip to see who is the guinea pig.  LOL

I would rather it be you as I am buying 18 Western Electric 300 B tubes this week.