Hi Jphii,
I have been told that the Amperex Gold Pin 5842 sounds good it the phono section, and also the RCA 5842. Some people swear by the WE417a, but others say it is overhyped. Guess you just have to try them for yourself. I will be very interested in your phono tube impressions. Be sure to post your results. |
As soon as I can find some tubes at a reasonable price, they are going in! I'll start searching over the weekend. |
What is the minimum shelf spacing required for the Chardonnay linestage? |
Hello,
BWhite posted the ff before.
"The Chardonnay is 13¼" wide by 12½" deep the unit is about 8½" tall. The power supply is the same width and depth but height depends upon the tube you select. With my GZ32, the power supply is about 5½" tall. Stock the unit is about 4½ inches tall"
...it's all in the archives....
cheers |
Joe (Jphii),
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I don't mind Slipnot's questions in the least. I just wanted to let hom know that there was a wealth of posts on tube rolling listed above.
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I am just about to start getting tubes for the phono side and will need help on that end so your questions are quite timely for me. Most of the posts for tube rolling have been for the line stage side.
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I will be very curious to hear your results as you work your way through NOS tubes for the phono side.
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Thanks, Larry |
Larry, Do you know what tubes Mick is using in your phono stage? If he uses an oddball tube like the 6c45pi, you are going to be very limited as to what you can use. And to top it all of, the damn things are expensive! Well over $100 for a quad. As soon as I find a decent quad, I'll get them broken in and let you know how they sound. Look here, and you'll see what I mean about tubes: NOS/NIB* 1958 Western Electric JW-5842/417A tubes/tube For now, the NOS Russian's are actually sounding quite nice. For something using such a high mu triode in the phono stage, the noise floor is incredibly low. It has brought out the details I could not hear before. Things like .2 g off on VTF, incorrect speaker placement and cable choices all have an audible effect now. Ah, the saga continues.... |
Joe,
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I have the Cortese and my phono stage arrived with two 6C45N-E ( Russian - Electroharmonix) & two 6922 (JAN Sylvania's made in USA). Keep in mind that I bought my unit used from a first owner and I am not sure if these are the tubes that Mick originally included with the Unit.
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I am still waiting for my TT so I have no clue how these current tubes will sound.
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I would love to hear ideas with anyone's latest and best suggestions for the 4 tubes on the phono side.
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Thanks - Larry
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Larry, Oops, I forgot, TT on the way, Supratek in hand. I know there are a ton of choices for the 6922, but that Russian stuff is hard to figure. Not being a tube expert, I think that the 6c45n-e is a hi mu triode like the pi-e in mine. I actually think it is the same tube, because the n actually represents pi, in cyrillic. Look here: TDSL Cyrillic charactersThat is my favorite tube data site. It will let you know what is an exact match and what is close, and a ton of other data. I know that I use Amperex Bugle Boy 6dj8's for 6922 in the AN and in my CD player. I seems to work well for me. But you have a lot of choices, and a lot of them are not too ridiculously priced. Look at the 6922 thread here. Joe |
Joe,
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The letter on the tube that I assumed to be an N is as you have suggested, a Cyrillic P (Russian). I will start digging on through your tube website suggestion and elsewhere.
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I am guessing that you will run out ahead of me with tube trials since you are already up and running with your Syrah and Teres TT and so I will look forward to your comments on your trials and tribulations.
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I am guessing that there are several other Supratek owners that will benefit from your phono stage tube trails.
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Thanks, Larry
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Amandarae,.. 2-3 Weeks...Shiteza...Micks been busy with other projects,anyway,Keep a eye on his web site...
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Thanks Stiltskin!
I'm on it! |
OK all, I won a quad of Raytheon "windmill" black plate 5842's yesterday on ebay. Look here: Raytheon 5842 So, now I have a third set to try in the Syrah. I hope these offer considerable performance over the 6c45pi-e. I'm not going to spend $200+ for a quad of WE417a. I just hope it was worth it. Let you know after I get a chance to run them in for a while. Joe |
Slowhand, have you tried the Philips Miniwatt GZ34?. If so, please let us know your opinion.
Regards |
I just received a pair of Tung Sol round plates 6SN7 GT black glass and plugged them over two days to evaluate the sound in conjunction with the WE 350B used as regulator and Mullard GZ 34 as rectifier in the Sauvignon.
The sound is now very much un-offensive, with lots of detail, correct bass definition and timbre, with no real emphasis on any particular frequency. I suppose it sounds great, but, I don't thing it grabs and captivates the listener.
Setup:
1. WE 350B
2. Tung Sol Round Plates 6SN7 GT - Black Glass
3. Mullard GZ 34
Then I tried the following combination, with the result being a slightly stronger bass definition, with the still non-offensive, neutral sound.
1. Sylvania 6F6G
2. Tung Sol Round Plates 6SN7 GT - Black Glass
3. Mullard GZ 34
Earlier, when using the following combination, the sound had a very rich, seductive mid-range, which totally captivated the listener at the expense of a very strong, bloated bass definition. The vocals sounded so real, it was almost scary.
1. Sylvania 6F6G
2. Ken Rad VT-231 Black Glass
3. Mullard GZ 34
The following combination resulted in a similar sound to the previous, but with slightly less bass, but stil bloated.
1. WE 350B
2. Ken Rad VT-231 Black Glass
3. Mullard GZ 34
I hope this run down helps in your quest to fine tune the pre-amp to your musical taste.
Does anyone else have any ideas as to whether it's possible to maintain a real seductive mid-range, whilst maintaining the correct timbre for bass definition ? |
Clipsal, If it is midrange magic you want from a 6SN7GT, then you should try the RCA 6SN7GT/VT-231 grey-glass. |
Thanks Jazzdude, will give it a try.
I'll keep you posted as to the results. |
Hi guys, the Philips Mini Watt GZ34 tube that Jpms told us about earlier is the best rectifer that I have tried in my Syrah. I have been using a Bendix Redbank 6106, but compared to the mini watt the 6106 sounds kind of "dark". The philips tube has more top end energy. It is not bright mind you, but it gives cymbals more shimmer. The bass may not be as deep, but it has better definition than any rectifier that I have tried. This is a winner. Thanks Juan. |
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I am satisfied with what I have done on the Line Stage side ( Mullard EL 37 - Philips Miniwatt / Mullard GZ 34 Miniwatt and Tungsol Black Glass Round Plate 6sn7) for my Cortese and want to do the best I can with the tubes for the phono stage side before my first TT (in twenty five years) arrives in mid to late June.
I would love to hear your favorite complement of tubes for the phono stage on either the Syrah or Cortese. I will be receiving a Teres 340 and will match it with a Graham 2.2 and Koetsu Rosewood Signature Platinum and am clueless on what to do on the tube side.
Musicality and an emotive sound are my priorities. I would hope for some good detail and solid bass in that order, but not at the expense of the musicality.
I mostly listen to classical (orchestral, chamber music and concertos) , female jazz vocalist and some occasional classic rock.
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Any help would be greatly appreciated from our Cognoscenti.
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Larry,
I can tell you one thing: If you have the 6c45 tube, you're stuck with it. I tried the 5842's, and they don't work. I need to research tube specs to find something that I can sub for the Russian tube.
On the other hand, if I keep the gain switch on low I have all of the volume I need (which can sometimes be quite a bit) with no tube noise at all. They get a little microphonic with the gain set to high at higher lisening levels.
I think it is a very good tube, but I wish I had some more choices. It is fun using tubes as "tone controls" and different sounds. I had all kinds of fun when I was playing around with the 12ax7's in the Audio Note. I'll keep looking, and let you know.... |
Cello - if you're Cortese is like mine, it uses E180F (6688)and 6922 tubes for the phono section.
The stock Cortese tubes are actually pretty good compared to the expensive NOS variety. The differences in sound resulting from changes in phono tubes is less than the differences produced by the line stage tubes.
I've tried quite a few and I think the Telefunken CCa's in the 6922 position are (so far) the best for me. I use Mullard E180F's I picked up for 10 bucks on Ebay and they're okay... not much different than the stock tubes.
hope this helps. |
I hope that you receive yours too. It is simply amazing! People who posted their positive experiences here are right on the money! You will forget the period spent waiting once you hear the preamp out of the box!
Very special indeed! Currently, I am using the ff(pictures in my system link).
Tungsol 5881's
RCA Red Base 5692
Sovtek 5AR4 (Mullard metal base in transit already!)
Tungsol 6C4 and Amperex BB 6DJ8 for phono.
I am not worthy to own this preamp IMHO!
cheers |
Correction:
The post above is directed to Stiltskin!
Thanks! |
Hello Amandarae!I am truly happy for you... I have not received my Chenin yet...Oh well,Last contact I had with Mick was April 24th, He told me that it should of been done by now and that he got diverted on building a new amp., to match up with the Chenin/Chardonnay models...As for my pre....Mick said two/four weeks max.Thats fine,To date, the only part of my aged system that is left is my Quad 63s ,My Linn went last week, I am searching out a killer turntable arm and cartridge... The short list for a turntable is Teres, Origin Live, Nottingham,V.P.I...This is alot of fun...The amps are going to be easy... One of Micks or David Bernings... I am moving like a herd of turtles on this new system, perhaps by the end of summer or later my sweety and I will be cutn rugs late into the night...again... |
Stiltskin,
Wow! You are "busy" my friend!
I have the Teres TT. I love it and the synergy with the Supratek phono stage (sans cartridge) is very very good.
I like to get the Berning amps someday. As of now, I cannot afford it. Besides I am exploring the SET route with my DIY Fostex base Transmission Line speakers. I am waiting for my 300B amp and see how it matches with the Chenin.
I really hope that you can get your Chenin preamp very soon. The phono stage is a real "killer" as Slowhand put it on the very first post of this thread. Fortunately for us the Chenin phono incorporates the Cortese phono design. Cheaper tubes(6C4 and 6922) than getting a WE 5842 nowadays in the market IMHO. As for the linestage, well, I am speechless! |
I've got the Teres too. You can't go wrong with this combo.
Amandarae, that Tung-Sol 6c4, will it work fot the 6c45pi? |
Hi Joe,
I am not sure about the 6c45pi tube. Maybe, Ecclectique is the right person to ask.
According to my book, the variants for the 6c4 tubes are:
6c4w, 6c4wa, 6100, 6135(for parallel filament cicuits),EC90, L77, M8080, QA2401, and QL77. No mention of the 6c45pi tubes.
BTW, I know your Teres. IMHO, you did a very fine job.
cheers... |
I emailed someone who is considerably more tube savvy than I, and he said; "6C45P is unique. There is no replacement whatsoever." So, it looks like i bought the 5842's for nothing. They DID NOT WORK in the Syrah.
I also emailed Mick, "who ought to know" and he said the same thing.
No big deal, because they do sound excellent. Just wish I had some options! |
Hi Joe. To the best of my knowledge....The 6c45 is a russian military tube with no direct sub. I have a very limited background with russian equivalents. Sorry. |
Ecclectique,
Will the 6V6 tubes be a direct replacement of the 6L6 tubes? Can I use it on as a regulator for the Supratek?
thanks |
Question for Syrah/Chenin owners.
How long does it take for your preamp whe you consider it "warmed up" already? Mine is about 20 minutes. Just wondering because it seems that in my system when this warm up time is reach, the layers of the sound becomes richer compared to an already superb presentation at the initial turn on.
My amps (SS) are on 24/7. Could be the tubes at the preamp right?
Just want to get some feedback.
BTW, for the small room that I have (12'x14'x8') my experienced is that the Kenrad VT-231 produces bass that over power/loads the room so much. I thought I have several subwoofers on. Very nice sound but bass is too much IMHO. So far I am satisfied with the RCA 5692 Red Base and the RCA 6L6G tubes. Great combination and I highly "recommend" the pairing. Another one is the Tungsol 5881 and Tungsol 6SN7 Brown base. Very good for acoustic music in my system. As for phono, TungSol 6c4 and Mullard 6DJ8 does the trick for me. I tried Telefunken 6DJ8 but it sounds thin in my set up.
cheers |
Amandarae - The 6V6 can be used as the regulator in the supratek preamps. I've never done it myself, but I'm told they don't sound good. Let us know what you think if you should try it. |
Hello Amandarae. Yes the 6v6 works very well as a regulator in the supratek. Regarding warm up:each and all quality [tubed] preamp stages will take a minimum of 20 minutes of warm up time to come into there own and should be optimum about twice that amount of time. I can see you have figured it out that there is not much point in turning off your SS amp. Regarding the bass balance with the Kenrad black: What speaker are you using? Your phono stage configuration is different then mine however I am really somewhat suprised at your analysis of the red based 5692. Personally... It would be my last pick of nos 6sn7's for the line gain duty in my Syrah.... Funny thing is: it is far and away the choice of tube in my MFA luminescence.Than again, the lumi is somewhat darker sounding the my Syrah. Perhaps this observation is in direct contrast to the Kenrad... because of the bloomy base you are experiencing with the Kenrad. As our own Jazzdude has recommended [more than once I might add]... you mighy want to try a pair of RCA grey glass 6sn7gt's. They are a lot better balanced [tone wise] than the RCA 5692 in the syrah and possess a lot of that organic midband of the Kenrad. Further more, they are a hell of a lot cheaper to boot. In my rig, the 5692 sounds a lot closer to the voice of the sylvania 6sn7gt. Nothing is absolute regarding the voice of this particular octal tube and they certainly all have their own flavor.Do try the RCA grey glass though as they really are sweet and relaxing. Cheers and best of luck. |
Jazzdude and Ecclectique,
Much thanks for the info and suggestions!
Ecclectique,
Yes, I think you are right! The 5692 red base is not as good as the Kenrad in the Supratek but in my system it is alright and does not have that "bass bloom" as I am experiencing with the Kenrads. Mind you, my system(click on system on my thread) is probably not as good as what most guys here have. So please take that as a caution.
Having said that, I think it is time for me to panic!
The Chenin seems to sound somewhat odd to me lately. I know it's only been almost two weeks since I got it but let me express my concerns and maybe I can get some understanding on why my unit sounds odd. Here you go,
For linestage and phono, it seems that my preamp produces a very prominent bass and somewhat recess mids (especially vocals). It sounds like the mids is one notch lower of the entire presentation as oppose to the lows and highs! Highs are good though. I wonder if there is something wrong with my unit or not. I tried various 6sn7's, regulators and tubes in the phono stage to no avail. The only thing I have not replaced is the rectifier. It is still the stock version.
Out of the box, the unit sounds great I thought. But now, even if I am still in the "getting to know you" stage, it seems that I am not getting what most folks talk about how liquid this system is. I have no hum issues. The tubes lights fine. The gain toggle switch at the top of the preamp are(two) set to low and tape monitor to off. So what can it be? Also, I noticed that the unit powered up is a little bit hot to the touch even the volume control.
I need help! Any suggestions will be highly appreciated.
Thanks. |
Amandarae. Wow, You have a lot of very fine equipment in your arsenal. A couple of questions. What speakers are you currently using to voice the supratek???... the logans or the paradigm's. How large is your room and your speakers location in the room. No need for panick sir. Like most new vacuum tubed equipment.....you will need some run in time with the supratek as the transformer,wires and tubes will start to settle in and find its voice after about 100 hours or so. Rolling tubes at this juncture will only confuse the issue further. When I first received mine, I too, felt the same kind of anxiety as it sounded somewhat unbalanced and out of sorts tonally.I was thinking too myself that perhaps I made a big mistake,I was rather disappointed to say the least. So much so, that I put the stock tubes back in the preamp,turned the cd player on repeat and let it play for almost a week before I even went back into the room. The change in tonal balance after 30 or more hours was not suttle to say the least. Not only was it more coherent tonally,but what became immediately apparent was it's superior focus. I don't know the stock 6sn7's that came with your preamp,mine were of chineese origin and are really quite good tonally. A few suggestions to help you get a handle on the voice of the supratek: Tube rolling? Leave the stock tubes in it and roll out the supplied rectifier "ONLY" and replace with a nos equivalent[preferably a mullard]You will probably notice the change immediately however, listen to it for at least 100 hours before changing out the 6sn7's. The 6sn7 will have the largest influence on the tonal balance,more so then any other tube. You will find out that the preamp will improve dramatically after the 100 hour mark and continue to improve even further until 300 hours or more. Once it finds its focus... the tonal balance tweeks and tube rolling flavours suddenly become so much easier to voice in your room.Please, trust me on this, be patient and you will be rewarded. Best of luck. |
Ecclectique,
Thanks for appreciating what modest equipments I have. I admire your Westminster speaker sir and the rest of your system as well.
Back to the issue, it is either you are a prophet or you have some kind of gift to predict the future. Let me explain.
After I submitted my previous post, I left with my kids to visit their grandparents. I also left the cd player "on". To tell you the truth, I am a little bit distraught/shaken since the preamp is nowhere near sounding like many of the users reported it to sound and is a big investment for me and I cannot go any further beyond that financially.
I'ts been a good 9 hours since we returned home and what do you know! The preamp sounds very different! It is starting to show its real "character" to say the least. Now it is one O'clock Pacific time and I cannot get enough playing my cd's and LP's. The Chenin is opening up bigtime! I think I logged in about 40 hours now(since I first got it)and the change or improvement is undeniably audible. Vocals are better than what I can remember and the overall balance is starting to find its places.
So I think my concern is not an issue anymore. I hope that it stays this way and just gets better in time.
BTW, I am using the Logans and my room is 12'x14'x8' and the speaker placement is optimal. It's been un-touched since I dialed the position in from my previous preamp. Does the new preamp mean that I have to experiment on the speaker position as well, or recheck it?
Also, I will heed your advice and stop changing/rolling tubes for now. You are right, it will just add to the confusion on situations like this. As for the rectifier, I only have the Mullard/Amperex GZ34 at hand. Is that the tube you are talking about? Since we are into tubes, I like to ask if you have a particular experience regarding the RCA 6L6GC tubes. At present, they are what I am using as regulators. I noticed that after an hour or so, there is some bluish hue that I can see from the walls of the tube. Anything less than an hour, the bluish hue are non-existent. Is this normal for these type of tube? Or are they being over driven(B+ too high)?
"Once it finds its focus... the tonal balance tweeks and tube rolling flavours suddenly become so much easier to voice in your room.Please, trust me on this, be patient and you will be rewarded."
I will do exactly what you pointed out. Thanks for helping me, I really appreciate it. Please pardon my ignorance for "crying wolf" prematurely. Wheewww! Foolish of me. I should have known better since I been reading this thread for two years now. As I had mentioned, this preamp is a big investment for me and sometimes, paranoia takes over when you noticed something new that does not compute with your expectations.
I will report back further observations if any. But I have a very strong feeling that most of it will just be praises for this fine preamp we are fortunate to own.
I am happy now.
Thanks again! |
Hello Amandarae. Firstly, Congratulations on your supratek acquisition...you will be rewarded in due time! I am certainly no prophet sir,however... I have a sneaky suspician I may be able to somewhat guesstimate the outcome of your next 100 hours of seat time in that wonderfully [so called] humble rig of yours. Sir: Your past and present equipment choices speak volumes. Yes,that mullard/amperex gz34 is a great rectifier and the logical place to start your journey. Rectifiers can make or break any good amplifier especially in a system of such high resolution. The speed and transparency of an Electrostatic speaker is ruthlessly revealing and leaves nowhere to hide. I am a firm believer in getting the tonal balance correct first and foremost in any given room, one will find the rest of the presentation much easier to optimize to ones preferred flavour.Infact.. you may be fine tuning your speaker placement in due time once the supratek has found its voice as the stage of the preamp is almost holographic in comparison to your known references. Regarding the 6L6's and blue gas. Do not be concerned, as many output tubes will exhibit that characteristic,just be sure they test above 90% on a tester. If you have logged in around 40 hours... the rectifier swap should be somewhat noticeable now as the bass resolution of the supratek is world class by anybody's standards.Be prepared, as the astonishing clarity and focus of the supratek is really going to come into its own in the next 50 to 60 hours or so.You will find yourself spinning all those treasured old lp's into the wee hours of the morning only to discover that you never knew they were recorded so well. Enjoy! Stay tuned and check back in. Cheers David |
Thanks David! I truly appreciate your effort in entertaining my inquiries and giving your own descriptions of your experienced (regarding the preamp) as a Supratek owner.
I will report back! |
Abe,
You know you should be selling those 5881's here on the 'Gon. You could have made another Syrah owner very happy! And I can use them in the Audio Note too. Maybe I'll get lucky and win....
Joe |
Joe,
Damn, If I only knew that you are looking for some. Is there a way to stop an auction at e-bay early?
ABe |
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Joe,
Sent you mail also!
thanks,
Abe |
Hello everyone,
Just want to share my experienced so far with the Chenin Preamp that I currently own.
After religiously following what Ecclectique and Cello suggested to me to leave the stock tubes and wait until about 100 hours or so for the preamp to open up a bit, my complaints on my posts above are now non-existent. I logged in about 100 hours or so and the preamp starts to show what it is really made of. With the stock tubes (Russian), I could live with this preamp for a long long time. With some tube rolling, the preamp is definitely a keeper IMHO and more.
I am into vinyl a lot and the phono section of the Chenin is vastly superior to my old one. Sadly I will sell my other phono preamp because with the Chenin I now cannot find a reason for me to keep it. My phono preamp before the Chenin is a decent one(see my system) and is respected for its value/performance by many including myself. After side by side comparison with the Chenin phono stage with the same table, arm, cartridge, and loading, the Chenin phono stage is absolutely not on the same level (and is much higher) than my other preamp. No contest! At least in my system. Maybe because the Chenin has the Cortese phono stage which is a 3 stage RIAA type and not just the normal 2 stage or maybe just a single stage. Mick mentioned to me that it is impossible to get a very accurate RIAA using a 2 stage type, let alone a single one.
So, here are some of the tubes I tried in my preamp which I absolutely love.
For phono, I found the Sylvania Gold Brand Gold Pin 6C4 and the Tungsol black plates 6C4 as very nice tubes for the Chenin. Next to them are the RCA(black plates not the grey type) and the GE's. The stock National Union is good too but I believe is inferior to the tubes mentioned above. At present, I am listening to the Motorola and liking it. I am excited about this tube because they are easily available (cheaper) than the other brands. I have two types of Motorolas. One in an orange, blk., and yellow carton and the other in a white and blue carton. The former sounds better to me.
As for the 6922(6DJ8) tubes of the phono, I cannot discern any difference yet wether I am using an Amperex PQ 6922 Gold Pin, Siemens 6922 Gold pin, Amperex BB Holland 6DJ8, Mullard 6DJ8, CBS 6DJ8, or the Telefunken 6DJ8's that I am currently using. Maybe the money tube for the phono section of the Chenin is the 6C4, who knows?
For regulators, I tried Tungsol 5881, RCA 6L6GC, the stock Sovteks(?), and the GE(pinkish base) 7581/KT-66(currently on the unit). The GE's are very very good in my system. The RCA's did not excite me at all!
For rectifiers, I am using the Mullard 5AR4/GZ34 and sounds much better than the stock tubes.
The linestage? Well, there are lots of people(owners) here who posted their findings already and I am just following what they recommended. Frankly, the linestage is amazing on this preamp so much so that even with all stock tubes (after 100 hours, take note) I finally have a desire of using my cd player often again (but not more than vinyl!) and with anticipitation of excitement in doing so.
Thanks to all who extend their help in answering my inquiries when I post here regarding my concerns (at first) when I just got the preamp.
Now I can subscribe and "feeling it" why Slowhand included "Deal of the Century...." on his first post. Like my friend who owns Odyssey Audio says, "you have to own one to understand..." how special this preamp really is!
Now it is time for me to save and hunt for the Tungsol round plates and RCA grey glass 6sn7's to experienced what others commented about their performance in the Suprateks. I wonder if Mr. Malecki(Tubeseller.com)have some pairs in his possesion(I am not affilited by any means to him or his business)? Hmmmmmmm....
Abe
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Hello,
Anybody using KT66 as regulators on their Supratek preamps? Comments please especially experience on the GEC KT66 tubes.
Thanks,
Abe |
Hi,
I've been reading this thread on and off for a while now and am considering taking the leap to a Chardonnay preamp. Currently, my system comprises: Anthem CD1 (with a single 6922), Blue Circle BC21.1 tube preamp (pair of 6922's), Blue Circle BC22 MKII amp (ss, 125 wpc), Rune speakers by Zu, mostly Zu cabling and Blue Cricle MR1200 balanced power conditioner. Music is mostly jazz, with some rock, pop and classical thrown in at times for further variety.
The speakers are essentially a single driver design, with a super tweeter taking over at 15kHz, rated at 100dB sensitivity. The power provided by the amp is probably overkill, but it seems to be a good match. I'm fairly pleased with the BC21.1, although at times I find the tube noise to be a little distracting. So my main concern in going with another tube preamp has to do with the distortion/noise of the Chardonnay/Chenin? My apologies if I missed this topic somewhere earlier in the thread.
Thanks in advance for any advice and comments.
Max |
Luckily Supratek has been "chosen" as one of Audiogon's Showcase Dealers (surprise suprise). To the victors go the spoils. Or perhaps the opposite in this case. Any idiot knows the internet is an inherently superior medium of the written word and therefore not succeptible to the rigors of peer review or accountability. And the savy know better and cash in. To what century does this thread apply anyway? |
Amandarae, I used the GEC KT66's and thought they were good, but the all metal 6L6s were better and the WE 350B's are by far the best.
I could have lived with the GEC's had I not tried the metal 6L6s or the 350Bs. Its been a while, but as I recall the tonality wasn't dead-on. But they beat the heck out of the stock tubes. |
Khrys, it seems you are still determined to trash this thread. Have you owned a Supratek? Why are you so critical?
If I recall, you apologized once in this thread already for being a pain in *&^ @#% after offending some people. And here you go again. If you don't have anything constructive to say or have no real interest in a Supratek product, why continually jump in here just to stir crap up! |
Khrys,
You may not know a thing about Supratek gear, but at least you have me convinced that you are an absolute authority on what idiots know.
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I ordered my Chenin at the end of March. When should I contact Mick to inquire as to my place in the queue? |
Fiddler,
Thanks for the input sir!
Khrys,
What is your purpose here? Too much time on your hands?
Why not get a Supratek, use it for three months and then sell it if you don't like it. By then, maybe somebody will listen to your crap!
Better yet get a crowbar and shape it as a headphone with your Watt Puppy on each side. Turn up the volume as loud as you can. Maybe this can orient your stupidity and stop bothering us Supratek owners.
What is it for you? Oh I see, you bought a gear too late before finding the Supratek? Or it's a kick for you to jump in a thread and stir up everything as if you know what you are talking about?
Okay, that is it for me. My maximum time to converse with idiots is over. |
