Got it Ecclectique! Thanks again!
Cheers...... |
Anybody receive their new Syrah/Chardonnay yet? If so, kindly mention the time when you ordered. I place my order for the Syrah early January(I think?). I know, not long enough yet but just want to "gauge" where I stand in the pecking order.
thanks |
Thanks much JAZZDUDE!
....so the waiting game continues...... |
Dilly,
When did you order your Chardonnay if I may ask? |
As a future owner of a Syrah (ordered two months ago), I am in awe from following this thread. I know that I have long ways to go (waiting) but my excitement and anxiety grows leaps and bounds for what it will bring on my system after lurking here for several months now and digesting all the info of present owners.
In fact, I began tube shopping a month ago and getting very close to have a set and a spare of what many (Bwhite, Tubegroover, Jazzdude, Ecclectique, Swampwalker, Fiddler, Slowhand, Jewel_Hasan, etc.)users recommend that gives positives to the performance of their unit.
Although I am not an initiated member yet, I find tis thread very informative and full of camaraderie from the group who are experiencing the Supratek marvels in terms of giving priceless and countless advice to those new to the Supratek world.
Keep 'em coming guys! Following this thread is more than educational to me. I am sure that future owners like me are benefiting from the info that others gladly share from their journey in squeezing the last drop of the Supratek brilliance.
Thanks, and looking forward to contribute here or in any forum in the near future regarding Mic's creations. All I know for sure is that when Stiltskin receive the preamp (I ordered two days after him), then theres a very good percentage that mine is also on its way.
Abe |
To Ecclectique!!!!
Can the 6V6 (Kenrad VT-107 I think with metal body) be a replacement of the 6L6/5881 tubes?
Thanks!
Abe |
Ecclectique,
Much thanks for the valuable info. Reason for asking is because I had a really fortunate day today. A friend of mine who works at the University (Southern Cal)gave me a big box of tubes which are remnants of the tubes (electronic shop they had)in storage since the 70's. My score are as follow (all NOS, most with boxes).
2- RCA 2A3
4- KenRad 6V6GT/G
2- KenRad 6F6 (the metal ones)
2-GE 6sn7GTB
2-KenRad 6sn7 Clear Glass
2-RCA 6L6 Metal
2-Sylvania 6sn7GTA Green Lettering Chrome Top
2-CBS Hytron 6SN7GTB
2- GE 5881 Brown Base
4- Telefunken 12AX7
4- Telefunken 12AU7
8- Amperex Bugle Boy 12AU7
2- Amperex Bugle Boy 12AX7
and lots of 811, 0DA's, 807 etc.
Since I am waiting for my Syrah, I like to know which I can use as replacements of the tubes stated on the website.
Thank you and I really appreciate your help!
Abe |
Stiltskin,
Thanks for letting me know, I really appreciate it! I believe that I am next in line (or batch) when you receive the golden news from Mick. At present, I already completed collecting at least two sets of the various tubes which the Syrah requires (6sn7, 5881, 6106, 6f6g, 6gk5, 6v6, 5ar4, 5842/417a etc.) of the brands owners of the Supratek talk about here on this thread.
I'm cool! In fact the wait gave me time to finish my other projects (two 3 cubic foot 12 inch driver-sealed subwoofer, Balance power isolation transformer with dc supressor, and tweaking my Teres 255 to the currently available upgrades). But I am not being honest if I say that the wait doesn't bother me! I am very anxious/excited to be part of the Supratek experience to say the least.
Oh well, the wait continues......something to look forward to...life is good!!! |
" I placed 2 e-mails to Mick weeks ago with no response"
That's odd? I have correspondence with him last Sunday. Everytime I sent an e-mail to him, I got a response right away.
BTW, I believe the Syrah preamp does not exist anymore. It is now called a Chenin. Same linestage superiority as the Syrah but with better phono section ( taken from the Cortese) as what Flacre mentioned a few post above. |
Todd,
Contact Mick. In that case you will get a definite answer.
cheers.... |
Yeheey, yeheey!!!!!
Stiltskin's pre is about to be completed and ship! That means mine will be next (if not second or third)!!! I ordered a few days after him!!
Congrats Stiltskin! Please update us about your impressions once you have the Chenin in your system!!!
Aaahhhhh, Patience is a virtue but time moves soooo slow when you are waiting.......
On the positive side, it's a good thing to know that although I am waiting, I am waiting for something great!
cheers.... |
Jazzdude,
Thanks for the heads up! At least now I have a perspective on what to expect approaching the final phase of the waiting game.
Thanks again, and I am pretty sure you are having a blast with your Cabernet!
cheers.... |
Paging Stiltskin!
Have you receive your preamp yet? |
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Ecclectique,
Will the 6V6 tubes be a direct replacement of the 6L6 tubes? Can I use it on as a regulator for the Supratek?
thanks |
Hello,
BWhite posted the ff before.
"The Chardonnay is 13¼" wide by 12½" deep the unit is about 8½" tall. The power supply is the same width and depth but height depends upon the tube you select. With my GZ32, the power supply is about 5½" tall. Stock the unit is about 4½ inches tall"
...it's all in the archives....
cheers |
Thanks Stiltskin!
I'm on it! |
Hello,
I have the Chenin. On the problem that you are having, assuming that all inputs are okay(checking the configuration as per reference to the picture in the manual), check the tape monitor switch (OFF position should be towards you). Also, try different input pairs (1,2, or 3) and see if the left channel is always dead. Are the tubes all lit?
Good Luck! |
I hope that you receive yours too. It is simply amazing! People who posted their positive experiences here are right on the money! You will forget the period spent waiting once you hear the preamp out of the box!
Very special indeed! Currently, I am using the ff(pictures in my system link).
Tungsol 5881's
RCA Red Base 5692
Sovtek 5AR4 (Mullard metal base in transit already!)
Tungsol 6C4 and Amperex BB 6DJ8 for phono.
I am not worthy to own this preamp IMHO!
cheers |
Correction:
The post above is directed to Stiltskin!
Thanks! |
Stiltskin,
Wow! You are "busy" my friend!
I have the Teres TT. I love it and the synergy with the Supratek phono stage (sans cartridge) is very very good.
I like to get the Berning amps someday. As of now, I cannot afford it. Besides I am exploring the SET route with my DIY Fostex base Transmission Line speakers. I am waiting for my 300B amp and see how it matches with the Chenin.
I really hope that you can get your Chenin preamp very soon. The phono stage is a real "killer" as Slowhand put it on the very first post of this thread. Fortunately for us the Chenin phono incorporates the Cortese phono design. Cheaper tubes(6C4 and 6922) than getting a WE 5842 nowadays in the market IMHO. As for the linestage, well, I am speechless! |
Hi Joe,
I am not sure about the 6c45pi tube. Maybe, Ecclectique is the right person to ask.
According to my book, the variants for the 6c4 tubes are:
6c4w, 6c4wa, 6100, 6135(for parallel filament cicuits),EC90, L77, M8080, QA2401, and QL77. No mention of the 6c45pi tubes.
BTW, I know your Teres. IMHO, you did a very fine job.
cheers... |
Question for Syrah/Chenin owners.
How long does it take for your preamp whe you consider it "warmed up" already? Mine is about 20 minutes. Just wondering because it seems that in my system when this warm up time is reach, the layers of the sound becomes richer compared to an already superb presentation at the initial turn on.
My amps (SS) are on 24/7. Could be the tubes at the preamp right?
Just want to get some feedback.
BTW, for the small room that I have (12'x14'x8') my experienced is that the Kenrad VT-231 produces bass that over power/loads the room so much. I thought I have several subwoofers on. Very nice sound but bass is too much IMHO. So far I am satisfied with the RCA 5692 Red Base and the RCA 6L6G tubes. Great combination and I highly "recommend" the pairing. Another one is the Tungsol 5881 and Tungsol 6SN7 Brown base. Very good for acoustic music in my system. As for phono, TungSol 6c4 and Mullard 6DJ8 does the trick for me. I tried Telefunken 6DJ8 but it sounds thin in my set up.
cheers |
Jazzdude and Ecclectique,
Much thanks for the info and suggestions!
Ecclectique,
Yes, I think you are right! The 5692 red base is not as good as the Kenrad in the Supratek but in my system it is alright and does not have that "bass bloom" as I am experiencing with the Kenrads. Mind you, my system(click on system on my thread) is probably not as good as what most guys here have. So please take that as a caution.
Having said that, I think it is time for me to panic!
The Chenin seems to sound somewhat odd to me lately. I know it's only been almost two weeks since I got it but let me express my concerns and maybe I can get some understanding on why my unit sounds odd. Here you go,
For linestage and phono, it seems that my preamp produces a very prominent bass and somewhat recess mids (especially vocals). It sounds like the mids is one notch lower of the entire presentation as oppose to the lows and highs! Highs are good though. I wonder if there is something wrong with my unit or not. I tried various 6sn7's, regulators and tubes in the phono stage to no avail. The only thing I have not replaced is the rectifier. It is still the stock version.
Out of the box, the unit sounds great I thought. But now, even if I am still in the "getting to know you" stage, it seems that I am not getting what most folks talk about how liquid this system is. I have no hum issues. The tubes lights fine. The gain toggle switch at the top of the preamp are(two) set to low and tape monitor to off. So what can it be? Also, I noticed that the unit powered up is a little bit hot to the touch even the volume control.
I need help! Any suggestions will be highly appreciated.
Thanks. |
Ecclectique,
Thanks for appreciating what modest equipments I have. I admire your Westminster speaker sir and the rest of your system as well.
Back to the issue, it is either you are a prophet or you have some kind of gift to predict the future. Let me explain.
After I submitted my previous post, I left with my kids to visit their grandparents. I also left the cd player "on". To tell you the truth, I am a little bit distraught/shaken since the preamp is nowhere near sounding like many of the users reported it to sound and is a big investment for me and I cannot go any further beyond that financially.
I'ts been a good 9 hours since we returned home and what do you know! The preamp sounds very different! It is starting to show its real "character" to say the least. Now it is one O'clock Pacific time and I cannot get enough playing my cd's and LP's. The Chenin is opening up bigtime! I think I logged in about 40 hours now(since I first got it)and the change or improvement is undeniably audible. Vocals are better than what I can remember and the overall balance is starting to find its places.
So I think my concern is not an issue anymore. I hope that it stays this way and just gets better in time.
BTW, I am using the Logans and my room is 12'x14'x8' and the speaker placement is optimal. It's been un-touched since I dialed the position in from my previous preamp. Does the new preamp mean that I have to experiment on the speaker position as well, or recheck it?
Also, I will heed your advice and stop changing/rolling tubes for now. You are right, it will just add to the confusion on situations like this. As for the rectifier, I only have the Mullard/Amperex GZ34 at hand. Is that the tube you are talking about? Since we are into tubes, I like to ask if you have a particular experience regarding the RCA 6L6GC tubes. At present, they are what I am using as regulators. I noticed that after an hour or so, there is some bluish hue that I can see from the walls of the tube. Anything less than an hour, the bluish hue are non-existent. Is this normal for these type of tube? Or are they being over driven(B+ too high)?
"Once it finds its focus... the tonal balance tweeks and tube rolling flavours suddenly become so much easier to voice in your room.Please, trust me on this, be patient and you will be rewarded."
I will do exactly what you pointed out. Thanks for helping me, I really appreciate it. Please pardon my ignorance for "crying wolf" prematurely. Wheewww! Foolish of me. I should have known better since I been reading this thread for two years now. As I had mentioned, this preamp is a big investment for me and sometimes, paranoia takes over when you noticed something new that does not compute with your expectations.
I will report back further observations if any. But I have a very strong feeling that most of it will just be praises for this fine preamp we are fortunate to own.
I am happy now.
Thanks again! |
Slipknot1,
I never bothered contacting Mick until at least three months. By then, he told me how many units are ahead of my order. Stay busy, time flies. I can assure you that your patience will be rewarded. In my case, I never imagined how much positive impact the Chenin would do in my system. Three weeks and counting I finally experienced the cliche "it gets better after so many hours" on what it really meant. I was a little bit worried at first(see past posts)but Ecclectique and Cello assured me how great the preamp really is.
Hang in there bud, a hand assembled Ferrari needs a lot of time and care to produced. |
Thanks David! I truly appreciate your effort in entertaining my inquiries and giving your own descriptions of your experienced (regarding the preamp) as a Supratek owner.
I will report back! |
Joe,
Damn, If I only knew that you are looking for some. Is there a way to stop an auction at e-bay early?
ABe |
Joe,
Sent you mail also!
thanks,
Abe |
Hello everyone,
Just want to share my experienced so far with the Chenin Preamp that I currently own.
After religiously following what Ecclectique and Cello suggested to me to leave the stock tubes and wait until about 100 hours or so for the preamp to open up a bit, my complaints on my posts above are now non-existent. I logged in about 100 hours or so and the preamp starts to show what it is really made of. With the stock tubes (Russian), I could live with this preamp for a long long time. With some tube rolling, the preamp is definitely a keeper IMHO and more.
I am into vinyl a lot and the phono section of the Chenin is vastly superior to my old one. Sadly I will sell my other phono preamp because with the Chenin I now cannot find a reason for me to keep it. My phono preamp before the Chenin is a decent one(see my system) and is respected for its value/performance by many including myself. After side by side comparison with the Chenin phono stage with the same table, arm, cartridge, and loading, the Chenin phono stage is absolutely not on the same level (and is much higher) than my other preamp. No contest! At least in my system. Maybe because the Chenin has the Cortese phono stage which is a 3 stage RIAA type and not just the normal 2 stage or maybe just a single stage. Mick mentioned to me that it is impossible to get a very accurate RIAA using a 2 stage type, let alone a single one.
So, here are some of the tubes I tried in my preamp which I absolutely love.
For phono, I found the Sylvania Gold Brand Gold Pin 6C4 and the Tungsol black plates 6C4 as very nice tubes for the Chenin. Next to them are the RCA(black plates not the grey type) and the GE's. The stock National Union is good too but I believe is inferior to the tubes mentioned above. At present, I am listening to the Motorola and liking it. I am excited about this tube because they are easily available (cheaper) than the other brands. I have two types of Motorolas. One in an orange, blk., and yellow carton and the other in a white and blue carton. The former sounds better to me.
As for the 6922(6DJ8) tubes of the phono, I cannot discern any difference yet wether I am using an Amperex PQ 6922 Gold Pin, Siemens 6922 Gold pin, Amperex BB Holland 6DJ8, Mullard 6DJ8, CBS 6DJ8, or the Telefunken 6DJ8's that I am currently using. Maybe the money tube for the phono section of the Chenin is the 6C4, who knows?
For regulators, I tried Tungsol 5881, RCA 6L6GC, the stock Sovteks(?), and the GE(pinkish base) 7581/KT-66(currently on the unit). The GE's are very very good in my system. The RCA's did not excite me at all!
For rectifiers, I am using the Mullard 5AR4/GZ34 and sounds much better than the stock tubes.
The linestage? Well, there are lots of people(owners) here who posted their findings already and I am just following what they recommended. Frankly, the linestage is amazing on this preamp so much so that even with all stock tubes (after 100 hours, take note) I finally have a desire of using my cd player often again (but not more than vinyl!) and with anticipitation of excitement in doing so.
Thanks to all who extend their help in answering my inquiries when I post here regarding my concerns (at first) when I just got the preamp.
Now I can subscribe and "feeling it" why Slowhand included "Deal of the Century...." on his first post. Like my friend who owns Odyssey Audio says, "you have to own one to understand..." how special this preamp really is!
Now it is time for me to save and hunt for the Tungsol round plates and RCA grey glass 6sn7's to experienced what others commented about their performance in the Suprateks. I wonder if Mr. Malecki(Tubeseller.com)have some pairs in his possesion(I am not affilited by any means to him or his business)? Hmmmmmmm....
Abe
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Hello,
Anybody using KT66 as regulators on their Supratek preamps? Comments please especially experience on the GEC KT66 tubes.
Thanks,
Abe |
Fiddler,
Thanks for the input sir!
Khrys,
What is your purpose here? Too much time on your hands?
Why not get a Supratek, use it for three months and then sell it if you don't like it. By then, maybe somebody will listen to your crap!
Better yet get a crowbar and shape it as a headphone with your Watt Puppy on each side. Turn up the volume as loud as you can. Maybe this can orient your stupidity and stop bothering us Supratek owners.
What is it for you? Oh I see, you bought a gear too late before finding the Supratek? Or it's a kick for you to jump in a thread and stir up everything as if you know what you are talking about?
Okay, that is it for me. My maximum time to converse with idiots is over. |
Thanks for sharing your experienced Fiddler! Also to Bwhite for the suggestion. I will try it on my preamp after warranty maybe. Anybody knows the warranty for the Supratek? I know that Mick will repair/upgrade Supratek preamps as long as he live but just want to get the info.
I am very happy with my preamp now especially the phono section. I am using the ff. tubes:
Mullard/Amperex 5AR4 Flat Top Metal Base Rectifier
Flip-Flopping b/w GEC KT-66 Regulators or Tungsol 5881's
Tungsol VT-231 Round Plates
Siemens 6922's
Sylvania Gold Brand Gold Pins 6C4's
cheers! |
BTW, I am using the Chenin on my 300B amp. :)! |
Ecmlee,
I do not know about the Chenin's phono stage being sensitive compared to the Syrah since I have no experience owning the latter. All I know is that I get better feedback replacing the 6C4 tubes than the 6922's in my phono stage. At present, I am using the Sylvania Gold Brand gold pin 6C4 and very happy with the results. A few post above, I tried several other 6C4's and I can say that I am finding the result consistent with what I posted before. |
Congrats Saint2!
I agree with Jphii, if you can resist swapping tubes until about 100 hours or so it is easier to get a feel of what tubes synergize well with your system. Scrolling a few post above this, you will find my experienced by swapping the tubes to NOS too early (because I am too excited to do so!).
Buckle up! You will be taken for a loooong blissful ride!
Cheers! |
From what I remember, Mick mentioned 2.5 mV max for the Chenin phono stage (In fact it is written on the manual, Page 1). Reason being is that the circuit is capable of amplifying 0.1 mV input so the lowest gain setting (of the two pots all the way counter clock wise)is still too high for input voltage over 2.5 mV.
I agree with Ecclectique. The only way to know is to try it. I think it will work but may produce some nasties. From what I can remember from the tubes use in stages 6922 and 6C4(1/2 of 12AX7) whose amplification factor can be (33 and 19.5), the gain will come up to be 643.5!
Congrats to your Chenin Mlkiz! I am enjoying mine everyday. Paired it with a 300B SET amp driving a single driver speaker design (MLTL, horn, etc.)and you will hear how good the phono stage really is. I think the money tube is the 6C4 though and not the 6922. It could be in my system only and of course I could be wrong. |
Mlkiz,
I had the same exact experienced (see my previous posts above sometime during April). Be patient, do not roll tubes yet. I posted here regarding the same complaint and Cello, Ecclectique, etc. sent me e-mails privately (thanks a lot again guys!) reassuring me that the preamp will open up after 100 hours or so and stop rolling the tubes. They of course are absolutely correct!
I am using a single driver set up so I know what you meant by losing the highs and subtlety from vocals but only on LP's not CD's because that is exactly what happened to me as well. Ecclectique said " have it running for about a week straight, after that, change the rectifier only and see for your self". I followed the advice and the rest is history.
In fact theres an owner (hifiharry) of Supratek preamp who graciously offered me to try a full set of tubes (RCA VT-231, Mullard GZ-37, Tungsol 6SN7GT, etc. for free to assure me that they are not the tubes. I mean, these guys are terrific and know what they are talking about!
Be sure you have the correct cartridge setting (the 47k, 1000, 100, and 10 Ohms slider switch at the back) because if it is wrong, it sucks the high freq out of LP's. Also, have you tried a different cart?
Hope you can solve your problem soon! |
Mrmb,
The phono stage of my Chenin is the best thing that ever happened to my vinyl set up! Less cables, more flexibility, better sound purity, you name it.
Now instead of worrying how to improve my system, I am accumulating tons of LP's!
Congratulations! With equipment like yours, the Chenin will be equally at home and then some. Like Swampwalker says, let the unit break in first before tube rolling! In the phono stage, I suggest either the Sylvania Gold Brand 6C4's, RCA black plate 6C4's, or the Tungsol Black Plates 6C4's and Siemens 6922's! With any of this combination in my system, the sound is simply divine!
Cheers! |
Stephen,
I do have the original 6C4/6922 combo. But I think the phono preamp section can be re-wired to use 6J6 as well. In my case, I am very happy and does not look into that avenue at all. Besides, 6C4 is not that hard to find here. I also found that even the Motorola 6C4's are good sounding in my set-up. I won an auction at e-bay where I got 12 pieces NOS for $15.00.
Even the very nice sounding, I have a pair, GEC 6C4 at e-bay (I missed the auction!) can be had at $36.00 a quad. That should last a while.
For the 6922's, I am still clinging to my claim that them are not the "money" tube in the Chenin phono. Maybe just me, but I rolled several 6922/6DJ8 like Tele,Amperex, Sylvanias, etc. and even 7308's and not convinced with the results especially for the price I paid for them(although I have Siemens 6922 on the preamp right now).
To each his own, I guess!
Cheers, I bet you will like the preamp! |
Longho68,
Caveat the waiting period (as painfull as it is!), remember that those of us who bought the units brand new went trough the same agony. The only difference is that us who have the units now, ordered them earlier than you do. Nothing else, same pain, same anticipation, same wishfulthinking for the day the unit will arrive.
Having said that, the rewards are great my friend. I too was considering the Hovland preamp when I stumble on this thread. I am very glad I did!
My take is that I never heard a tube preamp that delivers as "hard" and as "pure" bass than the Supratek. The praises you heard about how great the midrange is, the delicacy of the midrange when it is called for by the source, IMHO is very much true. The highs compliments the two region very well as well. In short, I really believe that you will be happy!
Aesthetics? Man, if you like the picture on the gallery, you will be shocked how exotic the preamp really looks like in person with woods and all. In fact, I may be crossing the line here, I never wipe my preamp with regular cloth but with 3M static linth free ones . I use compressed air as much as possible to preserve the looks. It commands the room to say the least. Impressive? I can let you ask my friends who wants to buy the preamp from me on the spot by just looking at it! When they heard it, they were floored! I told them the waiting period and I guess some if not all are now in line like you for Mick's wonders.
Sit tight my friend! You made a very "musical" and wise investment.
Cheers! |
Ecmlee,
Yep! I too have the same "noise" when switching to a Bendix 61006 tube. As for a different tube rather than a 5AR4/GZ34, have you tried RCA 5V4GA? I found this tube "pleasing to the ear" as well when use as rectifier comparing them to my Mullard Metal Base 5AR4.
Just a suggestion. |
Roy,
Agree totally! Have you tried 5V4G yet? Different flavor IMHO. Also, have you tried rolling the regulator tubes (I tried Tungsol 5881, GEC KT-66 Clear and smoked bottle, metal Kenrad 6F6G with good results).
Exertfluffer,
Does anybody here posted that preamp is the most important factor on the chain? Who? Where? If so, It's his/her choice isn't it?
If you do not get the "enthusiasm" on this thread per se, why bother participating in the first place?
What's the matter, did someone offended you here?
I cannot understand why you have to comment like that on something that people enjoy.
Go ahead and buy those additional preamps (7 isn't it?). At least it is your decision and if it makes you happy, then good for you and nothing else matters! |
I am using the Tungsol Round Plates Black Glass VT-231 as well on my Chenin. I stock up with several pairs because I noticed that the price of them tubes increases everytime I check them. I tried Kenrads, Sylvania, RCA, etc. recommended here by others but the Tungsol is the clear winner in my system.
I bought a pair recently which tested at 85 to 90% of NOS (~2100 to 2200 per side tested on my calibrated Hickok 6000A)and been running it for a month now. Last night out of curiosity, I re-tested the tubes again to see if they degrade somehow (the preamp does its job at about 4 hours a day minimum). What do you know, still very close if not the same to the original reading I got as per notes on my tube notebook dated last week of July! Not gassy, and life test is perfect(you can do this on the 6000A).
My point is that if you can find a pair that tested (very important)and is at least 80% of NOS (2500 micro-mhos on Hickok 6000A as a reference)
and cost reasonably lower than NOS ($225 last time I look)then you can save some money........................ for the WE350B in the future. |
Nickatkins,
Huh? The manual shows the tape loop toggle switch. It is the one (on top of the chassis direcrly in front of the right 6SN7) near the selector switch. Looking at the front away from you is "On" and towards you is "Off". Did you get the manual from Mick? I have the Chenin also and my manual have pictures and each controller are labeled as shown.
Looking at the back of the preamp, moving from right to left, the two sets of RCA outputs are the main outputs. The next row after that is for TAPE (Play) and the next is for TAPE(rec).
If you are in the US, give me your FAX number and I will fax a copy of the image to you.
cheers... |
Wowwits! Let us know when it arrives slowhand! |
Jay461,
I highly recommend the Tungsol round Plates VT-231/6SN7. There are three types that I have. Looking at the top (clear glass), both filaments are horseshoe shape but one is oriented on the same direction, and the other type is 180 degrees from each other. Also, I have a pair with 180 degrees horse shoe filament but the plate that supports the filament are complete circle instead of an oblong type. All of them sounds great!
On my Chenin, I tried RCA gray glass, Kenrad VT231 staggered plates, Sylvania VT231 bottom getter, and Raytheon VT231's with good results but nothing comes close to the Tungsols.
goodluck |
Joe,
I thought I had, my mistake! He did say that he have some other brands, but I am looking for just the Sylvania. Oh well, it does not change the fact that they are very-very good regulator tubes on the Supratek.
Happy thanksgiving to all! |
Hello,
Anybody using their Supratek with BAT VK series (particularly the VK100 and the like) or Krell KSA series?
Comments/suggestions will be greatly appreciated!
Speakers are Magnepan 1.6QR.
Thanks! |
Congrats Mondie, Slipknot1!
Like what Cello said, buckle up and the journey is about to begin!
Yes, Ecclectique is absolutely on the money with the bottle shaped 6f6g. I bought a pair and compared it to my "use to be" favorite regulators (GEC Gold Lion and GEC regular KT-66). No contest! I saw Joe's(jphii) post above and got the last pair from David. Eureka! The Gold Lion and regular GEC are now cash money (courtesy of ebay) for the holidays!
From my experienced, the Sylvania black glass (Green label)6F6G (ST type)should be named "Mandatory Supratek Regulator Tubes"!
Happy thanksgiving to all! |
