Sez the guy who has his amp stacked on top of his CD player and FM tuner.
Wait, what??
You mean you are NOT supposed to do that?
Dayum…….
Perfect Path Technologies: Omega E mat
I’m curious about this product from Perfect Path Technologies and would like to hear from those that have experience with it. I’ve bought and used the Total Contact enhancer and like what it does for my system so I’m interested in hearing how this Omega E mat performs.
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Nice detective work... and I see some teamwork going on here. So who is the team leader of this snake oil business? uberwaltz or oregonpapa? And who are the followers? https://systems.audiogon.com/systems/7821 Can't you tell it's a young man's room? That's my second system I recently set up in my son's room since he left home. He got his degree in Electrical Engineering and Computer Science from one of the top engineering colleges in the nation. I'm so proud of this bright young man. I got the tube amp just about 2 months ago. I've been thinking of posting my main system (massive class A amps/preamp/speakers and a new DAC, room treatment, etc..) but that's never going to happen. I don't want these people (you know who I'm talking about) to see it.Anyways the key component in this small system is the FM tuner. Just turn on the amp and tuner... no need to replace discs... no need to log in and browse. These days I rarely go down to the listening room. $500 for the tube amp, $150 for the CD player (actually i didn't need it), $20 for the FM tuner, $600 for the speakers, $100 for the speaker cables (Kimber 8tc), $50 for the 10awg power cable. The bottom line here is that you don't need to spend so much money to get yourself an enjoyable system. Being an audiophile is all about loving and enjoying music. Do not waste money on things that are not necessary. |
Enjoyable, yes. Audiophile quality, no. There's more than loving and enjoying music to being an audiophile. There's a lot of music you are missing at the near bottom end (pricewise) of music reproduction equipment, you either don't know it or don't care to know it. This forum is not meant for you. It is irrelevant for you at this time (or maybe forever). |
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jkbtn Give the kid a break. Buy a tube of Total Contact, then paste the connections and let the music from that system really come through. You'll have enough left over to paste your main system as well. After you've completed the job, then come back here and tell us again how its all "snake oil." Frank |
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Newcomer here. I wonder why nobody has posted here in a long time. I will copy my post to the new thread--New Omega E Mat from Perfect Path Technologies. My perspective is as a classical violinist who has performed solo in concertos with orchestra, chamber music, and as a listener who prefers the close up and bright sound of the 1st row of the hall. As a holistic MD who knows that we don't know all the technical reasons for why certain treatments work, I have an open mind to what anyone claims in their personal listening experiences. I also respect the physicists like Geoff Kaitt who are seeking to understand the technical reasons for audio performance. That said, I am confused by many of the sonic observations made. Of course, YMMV, but here goes. There is not much mention of various types of electronics used in poster's systems, but it seems that the majority is tube equipment. They like the fact that the E mat seems to make things sound rounder and more pleasant. Harsh sounding early CD's seem to have less harshness and brightness. Kedoades said that he usually didn't like his bright/edgy sounding Telefunken tubes, but after the E mat use, they sounded less bright. All this leads me to think that the E mat rolls off the high frequencies, or yields more emphasis on bass. On the other hand, these users claim that there is more detail and clarity heard, but is this mainly in the lower freq? What do the solid state accuracy and neutrality oriented users think? Usually, more accurate SS electronics reveals more HF than euphonic tube stuff, and exhibits less roundness and more harshness in lower quality recordings. I am curious enough to order these products and try for myself, but would just like some more clarity from the users. The new E mats may be a new ball game. Thanks to all. |
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I have the Omega E mats in both solid state and tube systems. The solid state systems use Pass Lab amplifiers and PS Audio DACs and Marantz SACD players. The addition of the mats was significant and increased the emotional enjoyment of the music played. I would suggest placing one inside your dwelling's circuit breaker box and a second on top of your amplifier. Remember that they do take some time to reach their final effect. There will be an initial muffling effect but this change will transform into a noticeable sonic improvement. We have a similar background in that I am a physician, my son was an All State violin player, and I do get to listen to acoustic music "up close" as I am on the board of directors of the wonderful chamber music performances lead by cellist Zuill Bailey director of El Paso Pro Musica. Enjoy the experiment of placing the Omega E mats in your system. It is easy and fun to do and if the effect is not to your liking send them back. If you have any question please give me a call. David Pritchard MD 575-644-1462 |
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What's sad is most aren't privy to an electronics or scientific education and not likely involved in the recording industry... The scams and gimmicks lead to feeling ripped off and disdain. People used to swing with as little as he or she heard it... Scientific facts, DNA cleaned up a lot of that. But hey if it works for you and your happy...Bonus Cheers |
Magic! Yes that and .....https://images.app.goo.gl/SwMYGu4PHc1VK9zt8 |
I find it interesting that primarily the group with the mindset that if the science is not clearly explained along with documented proof that it automatically qualifies as snake oil. Many products do, however in this case my opinion is the products work as advertised. After adding PPT products on some very familiar source material along with other benefits I was able to understand lyrics previously unrecognizable. Not sure how placebo can pull that off. I guess maybe magic is truly the answer. |
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docknow ...
Sad to say, but Perfect Path Technologies as we knew it passed away with the passing of our late friend Tim Mrock. Too bad, because the guy was a true genius. Just as a side note, just prior to Tim's passing, he and I were going to set up a room at the Capital Audio Fest. Everything was set. The room was paid for, plane tickets bought, and all of the planning had been done. Tim had planned on using a pair of speakers that he had bought at an estate sale for $165. The idea was to blow everything at the show away with his technology and tweaks. I believe he would have done it too. Tim's untimely death prevented us from carrying out the project. BUT, he sent me two pairs of power cords he had built for my evaluation that he intended to use at the show, with a complete loop of his cords. The other cords, because of the rapid onset of Tim's illness (speaker wires, interconnects, and the rest of the power cords), were never built. I have no idea how he built them, or what was in them. I will say, however, that they were absolutely stunning. They blew away my already excellent power cords in a big way. It was as though I had put a PPT Gate on steroids into the system. I had use of them for three weeks before having to send them back. Quite honestly, it was like pulling out two ribs. RIP >>> Tim Mrock. Frank |
It’s a pity. Tim and his wife where good persons, as rarely seen in this business and in life in general. The products work without modifying the tonal balance of sound but everything is bettered. This is a tweak that does not make things only « different » but really « better ». Very few tweaks do that. With them in my system, music is really better, more immersing, and not by a small margin. I can forget the system and appreciate the music more easily. Is there a better compliment to do for music lovers ? Recently I add a few Emat + bought to Marigo and very happy with that. I still can’t believe this knowledge died with Tim and nobody can continue to build these tweaks. |
glupson ...
I agree that it would have been a tough act, but once a system is fully tweaked out with the PPT products, there comes a sense of realism that has to be heard to be believed. In all of my years in the hobby, plus going to many shows, and even working showrooms for dealers and distributors, I've never heard anything like it. This is what I and many other A'goner's who invested in Tim's products are experiencing right now. Plus, Tim was coming up with some special products that were never available to any of us. I've already mentioned how great the power cables were, but there was going to be more ... much more. His ideas for room treatments were going to be unveiled at the show. We were going to use MacIntosh's latest integrated amp, all tweaked out with Tim's products. The entire room was going to be treated with specially prepared banners that would have enhanced the sound. The speakers had been totally taken apart and treated with Tim's products and the use of his wire technology that went into the above-described power cables. He sent me photos of the bare speaker cabinets, the drivers, and the wire. Nothing was left untouched. I'm sure that there would have been systems at the show that played bigger, deeper, etc, but I'll say with total confidence that none would have presented the stark realism of what Tim had planned. Bottom line ... I was really looking forward to a great, fun time. RIP Tim Mrock. Frank |
You know I do not doubt a word of it. If he had done that people would have been boggled. Absolutely gob-smacked. My impression is that all the stuff everyone has been doing is moving electrons around in the most crude fashion. A huge amount of energy and information is radiated away and lost along the way. Its like, everyone knows the importance of insulators. But all insulators really do is prevent shocks and short circuits. Insulators do not really do anything to protect the integrity of the energy field of the signal. When all these different products come along and do just that the effect is astounding. When you said try Mats on the sides of the speakers I did and it was impressive. But looked ugly! So then I cut them up and put them inside wrapped around the drivers and internal wiring. The effect was so great my wife asked what did I do- and she was in the kitchen! That's just one relatively small thing, and only in the speakers. Doing everything to the extent you're talking about, I can hardly even imagine! |
millercarbon ... I wish you could have auditioned the power cords. Tim had compared them to power cords costing upwards of ten thousand dollars a copy, and he blew them away. As soon as I took my first listen, I called Tim and told him that all of the current manufacturers of various SOTA cords had better get back to the drawing board. And that was just with two cords, one used in the CD player and the other in the phono stage. I can only imagine what a complete loop of Tim's cables would have done. Simply amazing. Frank |
Placebo..(psychological benefit thing) like magic another good noun, akin to mind control, possibly mind over matter... Medically it works for a few, others have to rely on that Darn Science or get really sick perhaps parish... Audio placebo (gimmicks) also works for a few. Some embarrassingly stash the crap, others sell ensuing hefty loss. Really..why not sell something that "Works" for a loss ?? Possible upside no capital gains ? Should name an economical car Placebo, then Train yourself to Hear and Feel like it's fast. Again possible upside...no tickets. Imagine that ! Cheers |
Innuendo...An innuendo is a hint, insinuation or intimation about a person or thing, especially of a denigrating or a derogatory nature. It can also be a remark or question, typically disparaging, that works obliquely by allusion. In the latter sense the intention is often to insult or accuse someone in such a way that one’s words, taken literally, are innocent. Typically used by sneaky cowards who lack the courage to come out and say what they mean. If they even know what it is. Innuendo is also often used by confused ignorant people who want to insult without going to the trouble of learning the first thing about the subject. They like to create the impression of knowledge when in fact they know nothing. Oh, almost forgot- Cheers |
Wow...A linguistic page peeled out of Google with a hint of panties in a knot. Though lacking in humor and bubbling with open aggression, one might see the grounds of a debate in there. Should it be my post that brings displeasure, then my all means don't read it. Nothing personal simply observations and opinions, I should like to keep it that way ! Later...buddy |
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