Perfect Path Technologies: Omega E mat


I’m curious about this product from Perfect Path Technologies and would like to hear from those that have experience with it. I’ve bought and used the Total Contact enhancer and like what it does for my system so I’m interested in hearing how this Omega E mat performs. 
t_ramey
I don't think so.  The E-Mats don't require live power to become effective or diminish their properties without it.  I still found improvement after 3 weeks, just sitting in place.
We had a power outage last night that lasted several hours, will this mean the breakin process needs to start over?
I had about 2 weeks on the mats.

ozzy
Thanks Krissy.  I've been stacking them back to back, magnet side towards the equipment, so I guess that's wrong.  Also, on my large isolation transformer, I have one magnet side facing up and two on top magnet side facing down, spread rather than stacked since it would take three to cover it.  Should I change all of them to have the magnet side face away from the equipment?   And I guess I have to change the stacking protocol as well.
Hi Steve. Tim said that the thickness has nothing to do with effectiveness....however, you can double and triple them to very interesting effect. When stacking, it is best if the two magnet surfaces are touching each other, both label sides out.  You must try a mat in your car! Krissy
Hi, could you ask Tim if he thinks that doubling the thickness and doubling the treatment would be equivalent to doubling the E-Mats effect?  If it doesn't, then there's no need for a thicker E-Mat as some have suggested is possible.
 Good morning! Hiya everyone. :) Thanks for the welcome! @zermatt Timmy loves to talk to hi-fi folks on the phone! However, "Happy life, Happy wife," and all that...AC is a must.  At least in this tiny corner of humid New Hampshire.

We both enjoy reading these threads;  and all the independent reviews are pragmatic and sincere.  There is so much more to come! Thank you all.  ~Krissy
Mrs. PPT,

I will call.  Just got distracted with my ac repair for my home.  Let’s call it, Murray’s way of slowing down reality.  They want 2k to repair to minor components, it’s 7.5k for new unit.  New ac unit are not as effective as the older Freon designs.  They what the  call progress in 2018.  I stop my rant.

Hi All, 

First post in quite a while.  Just wanted to chime-in and say that I've purchased two of Tim's mats about 4-weeks ago and I love the effect on my system (sorry I don't have it posted - yet).  I enjoy the improvements enough that I just purchased two more. 

The effect is as previously stated by others - the music is much more relaxing to listen to, more enjoyable.  It did not seem to impact or alter any particular frequency range over the other, but I find that listening at lower volumes is more enjoyable and I am able to play music at a higher volume setting on my pre (Parasound JC-2) and it is more clear and lifelike. 

I struggled with placement.  The first was my breaker panel (exterior) and then under my DAC (Parasound Z-DAC).  After 3-4 days I was enjoying some sound improvement, but not like some had expressed.  So, I removed the one from the DAC and heard minimal changes...interesting.  I then removed the one from the breaker panel and the remainder of the effect went away fairly quickly...  Next-up was Power Conditioner (S.R. PowerCell 10 uef se) and Preamp...after 3-days, not quite as good as the original setup.  I decided to try two on the breaker panel...wow, sounded pretty good w/in 24-hrs.  Next step was something I probably should have done moment-one.  I had 3 MC-0.5 units in my dedicated outlet that feeds my stereo...I removed them and seemed to get a nice bump in sound...however, I'm not certain if it was the removal that helped or the "breaking-in" process...but I have begun to wonder if the HFC cables that I have connecting my components might not be playing "nicely" with the mat, when in close proximity...?  I will run this down beginning about 3-weeks from now, once all 4-mats have settled-in. 

I allowed the mats to settle-in for ~2-weeks and decided that I needed MORE of this.  As others have stated, the music is much more emotionally involving and engaging.  I purchased two more.

Presently, I have three mats on my breaker panel; 2-thick at the top where the dedicated breakers are for the stereo and surround/TV, and one on the lower section where the breaker for the computer resides.  the fourth mat is now under my DAC. 

I've purchased and kept some other tweaks in the past, but some did not do much for me:

1) Z-Sleeves - extra heavies,  I like these a lot...still use them (I think I posted on them here, many moons ago), 2) Alan Maher's older Products: parallel filters, power factor correction, etc... (per his earlier descriptions): all removed from system...for the moment...they were used on non-audio circuits (microwave, dryer, PC, etc...) and helped  3) Shakti stone and onlines...never really did too much for me, 4) Highwire PowerWraps - same, not much of any impact for me.  5) Walker SST Extreme - nice initial impact but dulled the sound after a few months and a PITA to clean-off.  6) Total Contact - good stuff.  breakers and ground ere first - good...then outlet, interconnects, plugs, soldered connections in speakers & DAC, same in subs, etc...  quite happy with TC, also still in the system - application about 3-4 months ago.

I'm anxiously awaiting the mini-me version of the mats!  I know I'm a bit all-over-the-place in this, but I wanted to share that I am quite happy with my purchases. 

Happy Labor Day Weekend and happy listening!

Doug

I have space between my devices but 3 E-Mats are magnetically attached to the two electrical panel boxes.  
It's good that the E-Mats have a horizontal dispersion pattern so that they don't have to be made larger and so that more are needed to cover larger equipment.
Only Tim would know if a double thick or double treated E-Mat has the same effective quality as two stacks E-Mats.
Maybe Tim could make a double-thick pad with twice the enhancing power at around $900.
 
I sure am liking the two pads I have and will be ordering another.

Regarding the question of the vertical zone of effect, Tim did tell me that there is also a horizontal pattern of enhancement that exceeds the actual dimensions of the mat, which is why they were not made larger.  

I think it helps to have some space between the mats and the intended device.  
I started with 6, added 4 more, then 1, then 1.  Unless you have a lot of equipment or want to triple everything, maybe 12 would be a good start.  I heard 12 at Frank's home the first time, then thought there was a significant drop off when he removed 6.  

6 sounded great on my system, better than Frank's 6.  At 10, my system sounded more like Frank's 12.  I haven't put any on my speakers or amps.

It's system dependent.  
Ok Uber go for 10 mats then! I also think the small ones could be interesting with unique placement options such as crossovers and power strips. 
20 mats, at $599 a pop in one go.
Gulp... That's a lot a moolah.

Im not that brave...lol
Or rich....

When Tim has the minimees up and running I will try, but he is a busy man so patience is a virtue for now.
@zermatt Good evening.  I have read your post to Tim. He suggested calling him to discuss your system and how Perfect Path can assist you.  Thanks! K~
  I think you should go ahead and order 20 mats.  Let them settle for 2 weeks and then report back,  also while you are at it you should get some total contact.  They do gradually break in and that is part of the fun.
Ok, who has the most mats in tier system.  Just wondering if I should order ten or twenty.  I do not want to wait or spend the next 6 six months waiting the things to settle in.  I do believe they can improve the system but I not sold on the quanity needed or the break in time.
I haven’t tried them under my turntable or on my speakers. However, I did place one E-Mat on top of a pair of my monoblock amps and it did not sound good even after 3 days. It covered the electronic portion rather than the transformers and tube portion of the amps.

I’d like to know how far horizontally the E-Mat is spread. Does it just radiate its effect vertically above/below its surface or does it spread horizontally beyond its’ surface dimensions?  (Note that I say surface as I have it on power panels vertically attached but penetrating from the surface of the E-Mat).
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I've had two Omega E Mats under the  Sound Application power conditioner for over two weeks  now. It just continues to get progressively better. My friend Robert, born a cynic, called after our last listening session to say that it was the best upper mid-range that he's ever heard. 

Frank
Welcome Krissy.  Thanks to you Tim,  my system has improved more than I ever thought possible.  I just pasted my interconnects with tc, and I am getting even closer to live music
@mrs_ppt 

Welcome Krissy! You gotta tell hubby to reduce his pricing so that I can get on the E Mat bandwagon! :)
It's been three weeks + since I put the last mat in my system, and I haven't made any other changes in that time. I'm loving the sound, and wanted to reiterate the importance of leaving the mat(s) in place. In my experience, there's a leap in transparency, clarity & coherency around the two week mark, and you begin to experience fully what it is capable of. Then, the improvements continue out to three weeks, and beyond.
Good morning Krissy! Thank you for joining the fray. Also, congratulations on your remarkable products. Every bit of success being attained by you and Tim has been well deserved.

Frank
Good morning music lovers! My name is Krissy, I am Timmy's Mrock's wife. He mentioned the thread was a little slow this morning,  and what a great time to sign up. Between building the website and working on the Alpha cards...it's been non stop for Tim! I want to thank everyone for believing in him and supporting these ground-breaking products.  This is a passion project for Tim, and we are both elated by it's remarkable growth.  Thank you. <3 K~
So far with using two mats, one on top of the cassette deck and one underneath, there's been no problems. Sounds great.

Frank
Magnetic field strength falls off with the square of the distance. If the mats are only “magnetic enough” to attack to ferrous objects, it’s not an issue. 

Just a thought to those using mats around tapes. Magnets will wipe the information right off. I am sure you all know this though. It's been a while for some to handle tape, and the larger mats apparently have magnets?

Maybe someone can correct me?

Well I have treated many of the electrical contacts  in my Honda Accord (including the battery terminals and speaker terminals ) with Total Contact and it did make a difference. I can not easily get to the electronics so no good way to try an Emat at that location.

Putting 18 Synergistic Research HFT's on the interior of the car then made a big difference in the car's acoustics.

Streaming Spotify via my I Phone to the Honda Apple link USB port now gives me great sounding - commercial free music of my choice while driving.

It does sound great.

David Pritchard
Go for it!
Sounds interesting.
I wonder if placed on car battery what would happen?
Uberwaltz ...

I was using my Nak deck to record some of my favorite LP's so that I could listen to them in my car that has a Mark Levinson sound system in it. Its a 2005 Lexus LS 430 that still has under 70,000 miles on it. Super quiet ride, so the all-analog cassette tapes sound really good. Is that nuts, or what? *lol*

Hmm ... Mini-Mats on the car stereo?? Now you've got me thinking ... :-)

Frank


Frank
I have 3 Nak decks...lol
And more tapes than CD!

And as soon as the minimees released I will be trying them on at least one Nak!
I have a Nakamichi cassette deck that hasn't been used in a year or two ... even though I have a ton of prerecorded tapes.   I decided to hook it up this morning and have a go at it

 After listening for about an hour, I placed two Omega E Mats, one on top, and one underneath the unit. Uhh ... to say it was greatly improved is an understatement. So, if you're still nutz like me and still enjoying cassettes, or if you have a good reel to reel deck, try a mat there. I think you'll be pleasantly surprised. 

Frank
I did find the Mats to sound slightly different whether the logo is pointing up or down. My suggestion is just to flip the Mat over after it has been in that place for 10 days and see is there is a difference. Some locations seem to have more of a change in sound when flipped than other locations.

David Pritchard
Tim recommended to me to place label side up, under the component. I listened both ways, thought the differences were minimal.
like fuses,and directionality, not sure I can discern the difference...try and enjoy, easy enough to switch over.
bob
I don't think it matters one bit, from what I understand it was only magnetic to help it stick to items like breaker panel doors.
I know it does not have to physically touch to work so I am sure any side up is good.
I received E-Mats 2&3 today.  Placed one on the inner surface of my service panel ( this time the bottom half).  So... I have two E-Mats in the service and the third under my PS Audio P5 Power Regenerator.  Any suggestions as to whether it should be label side up or magnetic side up under the P5?
I have been very busy as of late but I sat down last night for a listen and heard more musical content coming of the cds. 

Detail thoughout out the frequency spectrum have emerged that were nearly imperceptible before are now adding to the musical performance. For example, a brushed cymbal is definitely clearer and in time. Bass notes Are also more detailed and complex than I had noticed prior to the Mats being in place. 

The bottom line is that I don’t even have to be in the mood to listen to music, instead the music changes my mood to that of the music being played. 

rc
^^^

Both the Total Contact and the Omega E Mats are incredible upgrades by themselves. Together, they do magic. Will they have that effect in all systems? To be fair, the jury is still out on that issue. So far though, the vast majority are coming back with reports like hifiman5 made above. And, that’s just from installing one Omega E Mat in his circuit breaker box.

If you are considering buying Omega E Mats, be aware that initially they may degrade the sound somewhat. I had that experience with the one I recently put under the power conditioner. There was less presence, less like live music. The next morning it hit the WOW factor. So, I guess what I’m saying is to have patience with the Mats ... and the TC too for that matter. As some have stated, in some systems, the Omega E Mats take up to three weeks to sound their best. They just seem to keep improving. Install them ... and then just leave them alone.

Frank
I imagine someday Tim Mrock will have an interesting tale to tell about the R&D that led to both products!
@hifiman5 

You should try the TC.  For $300 it is probably a bigger improvement per $ than additional mats after the first on the electrical panel ... although I can imagine others differing on this.
@tochsii
One of the major topics of discussion on this forum is the objective versus subjective debate as regards the efficacy of all manner of tweaks and system adjustments. The lines are well drawn on this issue. For me, listening and enjoying music is an event involving my ears and brain not a mechanical measuring device.

I am on Day 14 of my one Omega E- Mat being installed on the upper half of my electrical service door. The positive impact that Mat has had on my audio system and video screens is obvious and undeniable. I have no idea what is in that Mat and how or why it does what it does.

I should be receiving more amazing Mats today or tomorrow. It will be interesting to see what impact a second Mat in the lower half of my service door will yield. I’m already to the point with my 65" UHD screen and 52" HD screen where I will need to adjust the video parameters as the impact of the Mat has increased the brightness and color saturation almost to the point of having it set to "vivid". The resolution of the screens is astonishing. You really haven’t seen what a UHD screen is capable of until you have had your electrical service subjected to an Omega E-Mat.

What about the E-Mat’s effect on audio? Higher resolution. Deeper, higher, wider soundstage. Much greater dynamic swing. Etc. Etc. Etc.

Wondering what the additional benefits of more Mats will be...🤔🙂
tochsil sez:

  • "One person said if they didn’t like a product that was given to them for review, they just wouldn’t say anything."

That could have been me in the TC thread. If it was me that you are referring to, you are using what I said out of context. I was talking about Herbie’s "Black Hole" CD mat, which did nothing in my system. It didn’t improve the sound and it didn’t degrade the sound. It just did nothing. I stated that I wouldn’t say anything negative because these CD mats have rave reviews from other hobbyists. So ... I figured this particular tweak is system dependent. Why harm a manufacturer unnecessarily ... especially when the Herbie’s tube dampeners work so well?

On the "black background." What we are after with all of these tweaks is a lowering of the noise floor. In other words, there is a ton of electronic noise smearing the sound of our audio systems. Its noise that we don’t realize its there until its gone. Once the noise is lowered, there is more presence to the music. It seems more live. There is more of a three dimensional presentation. With each SUCCESSFUL tweak, more of that electronic hash is removed, therefore, a continual search for more tweaks to improve the sound even further.

Personally, I don’t think "black background" is a good way to describe it. Why? Because when we hear live music, we don’t make comments like: "Geeze! Listen to that black background!" We also don’t use verbiage like: ... "Oh my, listen to that detail" either. We just relax, listen to the music ... and get emotionally involved. This is what we want from our personal audio systems, is it not? Good tweaks like Total Contact, Omega E Mats, Herbie’s tube dampeners, Synergistic Research’s multitude of tweaks all allow this to happen. Oh ... and they have a cumulative effect as well.

Frank

Great question, however, the creator is not going to divulge his secrets and I don’t blame him.
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