My system sounds better after 20 minutes and it's best after about an hour. |
There must be something wrong with me or my system I've never had my system sound good with 5 minute warm up. Most of my a/b amps that double in power take 2 days, I leave them on 24/7. A day or 2 for tube CD player, solid state CD player is left on 24/7, I think Dac's needs a couple days. My tube amps and tube Preamp take a couple hours. Class D takes 4 or five days, I leave it on 24/7. Turntable takes one or two albums to shine, maybe oil in well or cartridge need a little time. Other people don't have this problem? |
OP: Others have independently confirmed the Class D warm up issue.
It's a real thing, though I have no explanation for it.
Best,
E
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@erik_squires and @reubent , My amp is a Class D and I did have it totally powered off.
@theo, There are cheap women. ;^)
@noromance , Daddy long-legs don't weave webs; but I get the point.
To all: Truly I am the variable in many ways, but I didn't think the breadth of the soundstage would be one of these. After the incident I described above, which was only a brief time before the Commander in Chief summoned me back to duty, I left the Primare I32 fully powered up, thinking I'd be back soon. No such luck, so she stayed that way waiting for me for about 12 hours until I noticed on my way out the door the next morning and put her in standby. A day or two later I had the time to sit and listen for a while. This time it was an MP3, 320 download of Jackson Browne's The Naked Ride Home - my first listen to this album. The soundstage was gloriously realistic, the music clear, detailed and wonderful. I put Red Dirt Girl, which is the HDCD version, back in the Ayre C-5xeMP and all was well again.
I probably should not have used the word 'hate'. I think she was just mad at me for a while. Thankfully, all seems to be forgiven.
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One big thing I’d add to that list is information fields, also referred to as energy patterns by PWB Electronics. In other words, things that go bump in the night. 👻 You can’t see them but they’re there. It’s like germs or RF.
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I agree with Geoff if he is implying mood, mental state, weather, time of day i.e. power grid etc...
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After 3 weeks, I'd have daddy-long-legs weaving webs on my tubes. So I have to never let that happen.
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First off, my system is a HIM, I cannot afford a HER! But at time I sit to listen and he, just doesn’t draw me in, but other times is is like an old friend with nothing but good news. But I think it is me and the mood I am in, not realizing that listening isn’t the solution. |
Thank you @three_easy_payments . I stand corrected!! |
Nah. Maybe when first turned on the sound is a bit constricted, but within five minutes my system is its happy, mellifluous self.
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@erik_squires I've heard reports from a Pass owner that some of their amps can take 5 days to warm up. The 5 days is a reference to what Mark at Reno HiFi recommends to run in a brand new Pass amp. If you keep it in standby after the break-in period it only take 1 hr to warm up to optimal sonics. |
Things that affect the sound change even though the system itself may not change. Does that surprise you? |
Audio systems do not change because they have not been turned on in three weeks. They do not need, or alter their performance due to "rest".
I suggest that you are the inconsistent variable.
I also suggest that if upon listening to your system at various times it does not satisfy, then you have not build that good of a system, and you need to consider significant changes to it. :)
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Aside from having to literally dust the cobwebs off my system and warm it up (10 tubes total) for about a hour at least, everything sounds awesome as it should :-)
I live in Texas and I dont want to turn it on much during the really hot months.
Matt
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You might also consider the potential differences in the rooms temp and humidity levels which does affect a system's performance in measurable ways.
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@2channel8 - How familiar are you with that exact recording? I have it on CD and I recently bought it on Vinyl. I expected the vinyl to be awesome because I had also bought the vinyl 3-LP remaster of "Wrecking Ball" and "Wrecking Ball" was fantastic. Anyway, listened to the LP of "Red Dirt Girl" a couple of times and promptly sold it. No life to it at all. I like a lot of the songs, but the recording was blah.
Also, was your system powered off for three weeks? My system takes a couple of days of being powered on to sound its best. |
My system never hates me and welcomes me back with open arms when returning after a brief absence, it's as if it says, where you been and welcome home.
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Depends on the gear. I had Class D amps which needed a solid 3 days of being on before they sounded listenable.
My current amp, a Luxman, warms up in no time flat.
I've heard reports from a Pass owner that some of their amps can take 5 days to warm up.
I really wish I knew what the component was specifically which caused this, especially since Class D is so radically different.
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I'm not sure I believe that components need to be re-burned in but they do need to warm up. Assuming my gear is warmed up first I actually perceive the opposite - my senses have been deprived wonderful sound for so long that they crave it and absorb it even more readily with heightened awareness. It's like after depriving myself a favorite food or wine for weeks - those first few bites or sips are even better than I remembered! |
