You're right that the universal disc player is becoming a dying breed. One current option is the McIntosh MVP-901, although I'm not sure if it does HDCD.
Current Universal Players
Hey folks- Does anyone know if there are any high end universal players being made anymore (i.e. EMM Labs, DCS, Esoteric, etc. etc)? I know it's no longer in vogue but I would like to be able to play cd's, sacd's, dvd-a's and hdcd's. I'm sure that's asking a lot but there it is. I've seen players that are 15-18 years old but I would like something a little bit newer. Any thoughts? Thanks.
+1 @mahler123 Sony has a few that will do everything but HDCD. I have the UBX 800 in the den’s 5.1 system. All the best JD | ||||||||||||||||
I think your problem is going to be HDCD.. I don't know of any new players that decode this format. I have two players and a DAC that will do HDCD because I collect CDs with this format and I can hear the difference when the HDCD is decoded. You may have to end up with two boxes if HDCD is important to you. IIRC the Oppo 205 doesn't do HDCD (please correct me if I'm wrong). If you are into high end vintage gear there are some really nice players from the mid 90's through about 2010 that do HDCD. I have found it interesting that the SQ of these decades-old players holds up amazingly well compared to modern high end digital gear. | ||||||||||||||||
There's also the Sony UBP-X700 and what might be the Oppo-killer: Reavon UBR-X110 at $999. If you want to listen to DSD off SACDs, and hi-res PCM off other discs through an external DAC, then you need a GeerFab Audio D.BOB www.geerfabaudio.com, available at the major US dealers. I invented it because I was dissatisfied with the internal DACs of players. | ||||||||||||||||
Keep your 205 and buy a great red book dac. The sound of red book will be so far superior what you have, my guess is you will forget SACD. But you will still have the ability to play any of those discs. There are plenty of threads on Rockna, Holo, Denafrips. Spend 5k or more and the upgrade will be amazing IMO. | ||||||||||||||||
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I purchased a Marantz UD7007 universal player from a US seller on eBay a couple of years ago - it was little used, essentially new. I'm very happy with it since it offers XLR balanced out from it's internal DAC, and digital out to my main DAC, as well as two HDMI, which gives me options. SACD through the internal DAC and the XLR sounds good, but I got a HDMI to I2S conversion box to allow me to use my external DAC, just to see if "better" was possible. So far, no success in getting it to work. The transport seems decent - unlike my Sony UBP-X700, which chokes on some old DVDs. | ||||||||||||||||
@ spenav I'm not sure what the point of your post is but I think you don't understand the HDCD format. Yes, you can play an HDCD disc on a standard Redbook player but the player won't decode the HDCD information and provide the extra dynamic range. If you want to experience the advantage of the format you must have a CD player or a DAC that will decode it. It will have an HDCD logo and a light that will come on when it detects an HDCD disc. Berkeley Audio Design makes a range of DACs that all decode HDCD. They are expensive but they definitely support the format. One of the principles of the company is Pflash Pflaumer who was a co-inventor of the HDCD format. There are also lots of used players for sale that do HDCD. | ||||||||||||||||
I owned the OPPO 105D which had the HDCD chip and Darby. I put my name on the list for the last batch of 205's, and luckily, I was notified and purchased one. I sold my 105 to a friend. I miss Gracenote, which gave you a beautiful display of the cd that was playing, and the HDCD chip for decoding HDCD's. The 205 doesn't have either of these, but has slightly better sound and is 4K. I am very satisfied with the 205, But the 105 was very good too. | ||||||||||||||||
I have an Oppo BDP-105 with EVS mods and an Ayre C-5xeMP. The Oppo decodes HDCD and has USB input, which I find invaluable. I have nor compared them side by side except for red book CD and SACD. The Ayre MAY sound slightly mor pleasing on red book but I only have one CD in two copies. I prefer the Oppo in every other way. I should sell the Ayre. | ||||||||||||||||