Constant noisy tubes maybe go solid state?

You can go solid state.  Then you would be moving from constantly noisy tubes that can easily be replaced with quieter tubes or you can go with constantly noisy solid state devices that can't easily be replaced.

Like a few others not a fan of the sound of JJ tubes. Been pleased with tubes from Brent Jessee.

Quick silver preamps are known for running bias hot.
call Brent Jesse recording ,he can tell you exactly which NOS 
military tube would be best they are far more heavy duty and will last for at least several years  , I hav3 been there done that.

Also just received a set of noisy tubes from Brent Jesse in my first attempt at tube rolling - will report back on the resolution. 

@gochurchgo

first of all, glad you have quiet tubes in the unit working now... that’s good

second, brent is a good guy, good vendor, bends over backwards to get it right... bear in mind tubes get shipped in little boxes that usps etc love to throw around like nerf footballs... i seriously doubt brent would send a noisy tube on purpose if the customer was buying quiet ones...

viva guys are ok, they are commodity vendors (with decent prices) - they get stuff from tube factory xx and yy and they fill a customer order - but they don’t do extra value-added testing in house - like upscale, brent, andy and jim do in their shops as far as i am aware

Tubes are like taking care of a small child, they give you wonderful moments but need a lot of care.
If you want the best SQ, IME, it is still going to come from tube gear, unless you spend the very big $$ and go for top ss. OTOH, if you want greater reliability of the sound and no fuss, and SQ is secondary, then ss is the way to go. BTW, Brent Jessee offers a two year warranty on his tubes, something that I took advantage of when I bought from him, I highly recommend it. 

@jjss49  the Phillips in there now are completely quiet. I would add the QS and the Odyssey Candela tube preamp have nearly identical specs according to the website. @yogiboy  and testimonials from others persuaded me to go QS over Odyssey. The gain is very hot and I did ask Mike if it could be knocked down and he said his design is not to be messed with. I didn’t press it further. While I like the QS pre, the Sachs SP14 has adjustable gain and asks for input of the amp it will be mated to so I fee like if I go that route at 2x the money then it should match better. I tried attenuators but feel like they quell dynamics a touch (could be placebo). I have a Schiit Sys and pondered putting it between the QS and Odyssey to pull the gain down.

The RCA’s front Brent a year or so ago were also perfect and run daily since then. The Brimars (Tubemonger) we’re noisy out of the gate. I may put them back in after reading that sometimes 100 hours can remedy noise. The replacement RCA. From Viva were awful from the start. The newest RCA from Brent has 1 tube that’s fine and the other sounds like a 1000ft wave is going to crash through the wall and sweep me out to sea. It drowns out the music. 
Maybe bad luck? Brent has been very good, Viva took theirs back no questions asked and like I said before, I’ll never do business with Tubemonger again. I sent Brent a video clip (was trying to upload to paste a link here but I guess they are having issues). 
I often criticize people who gripe about the Care and effort that vinyl requires so now I’m wondering if I’m not cut out for tube gear. Especially as I’m looking to
order a PH16 (Don Sachs) to replace my Lounge phono.

@gochurchgo
 The tubes that I have been using are grey plate solid O getters!

+1 about JJ tubes. Swapped them out of both pre and amp and everything was smoother. The JJ tubes which came with the pre were surprisingly cheap. They should be swapped out right away. That said, I think that JJSS49's list of problems besides the tubes is more on-point.

@tvad

That said, I have tried most of the available new production tubes from JJ, Shuguang, etc, as well as dozens and dozens of premium vintage NOS tubes.

Without question, JJ have been the poorest sounding tubes in all my components. There isn’t a close second. Shuguang have been the best sounding new production tubes.

For vintage tubes, my best resources have been Andy at Vintage Tube Services, Upscale Audio, and Brent Jesse. I am interested to try tubes from RAM Labs http://www.tubeaudiostore.com

i agree with the above 100% -- jj's are just downright poor in sound

i believe the op has either:

a) a sensitivity mismatch between the QS pre and Odyssey amp (as I said earlier, the Odyssey’s are very sensitive, too sensitive)

b) a malfunctioning QS pre

c) noisier than normal tubes

this also reminds use why there is a longstanding market for really good solid state preamps like ayre, pass etc etc

@jperry  Brent Jesse, VivaTubes and Tubemonger. The first tubes I rolled in were front Brent Jesse, the now dead set of RCA’s and a set of Phillips 7062 which is all I have that don’t make me want to commit murder. 
Viva took their tubes back and tubemonger blamed it on me so they can sit and spin.

brent is helping me now but this is so maddening. I get like 3 hours on Saturday to relax and spin a few records and this is where I’m at.

If you want new and inexpensive call Quicksilver. If you want high quality NOS call Andy at Vintage Tube Services.

Just a question, where are you buying all of the crap tubes?

@yogiboy 

The ones with solid disc getters?

I have that same preamp. I like vintage Ge 12ax7WA/6201 tubes. You should be able to get a matched pair from any reputable seller on ebay for less than 50 bucks!

The GE JG-12AT7WA vintage tube is a rugged, American-made workhorse produced for the U.S. military and used for computers and targeting equipment. This tube is usually very low in microphonics due to its rugged construction. The GE JG-12AT7WA had to work well under arduous conditions and was made with solid support rods and short, gray plates.

Forget about Raven. QS is good stuff. I have the same Line Stage. After talking with Mike, you might consider Brent Jessee or Jim McShane. Both reply quickly and are willing to help. 

I think it might be time to suspect the device rather than a consistent/persistent problem from multi-sourced tubes.

+1 russ69. I would start by calling Mike at Quicksilver. 

Q) "So where does one order preamp quality tunes that are quiet?    Is there something I’m not requesting when ordering?"      A) Some tube mongers test their wares for noise (some don’t) and- typically, you must request the best, of those that do.     At Upscale; they’re graded.     Ask for their, "Platinum" or, "Kevins’ Stash" rated, for the quietest.    ie:  https://upscaleaudio.com/pages/test-equipment     and:  https://upscaleaudio.com/pages/grading-matching      Brent Jessee Recording is another excellent source, for noise-tested valves.    His method is outlined, on this page (second vid):  http://www.audiotubes.com/12ax7.htm

The JJs have a little glare that's a touch unrefined. If you like a warmer sound, look at Mullard CV4024. More neutral Psvane 12AT7. 

Try the Mullard 12AT7s from Upscale Audio, the gold pin versions. Otherwise call Vintage Tube Services, just be prepared to wait a good couple weeks to receive your tubes. 

the odyssey’s are very high input sensitivity -- makes for the need for super quiet tubes if feeding it with a tube pre (or tubes that wouldn’t sound noisy with another amp seem noisy going into it) - klaus’s amps are very nice sounding but they are certainly finicky for a solid state unit

Vintage Tube Services. You won't waste your time or money.

@millercarbon thanks I will look into the JJ’s. I believe the QS came with them and while they did sound good overall they seemed to have a bump in the midrange that my speakers also seem to have. Might be too much but will look.

I'd give Mike at Quicksilver a call. 

After many years (20+) trying different tubes my go-to now is JJ from tubestore.com Not because they are the absolute best - although they are better than most I've tried that's just me in my Melody. But I have never had a problem with any JJ tube. Maybe I'm just getting old or jaded or something but with so many other things out there that can make a much bigger difference with nowhere near the risk of headaches of tube rolling I go with the tried and true JJ.  

BUT, if I really did want to try something different the man I would call is Dave Thompson at Raven Audio.  https://www.ravenaudio.com/

Kevin will sort you out. Call rather than ordering and explain your situation. I haven’t ruled out that there could be some other factor at play. 
I've boxes of tubes that were once enjoyed and ultimately replaced for better and better ones. Most were quiet but you get the odd noisy one. But that's part of the fun.

I check my own. I buy in lots and bulk, have for 40 + years. The folks here will chime in on Vendors that will check and MATCH your valves.
DON'T pay a lot of money, but don't cheap out.. 12AT7s there is a slough of those around at good prices..and quality matched valves..12AX7s you can spend a few quid, more than 12AT7.

BUT if the shine has wore off... go SS it is easier in the long run... Me I've always used Valves, kind of second nature... I had to be pushed into SS.
Its great stuff, though...

Regards

@noromance  thanks I’ll look
At upscale. Are there certain places that check these things rather than just machines? Is Upscale your go-to?

Talk to Kevin Deal in Upscale Audio for advice.
I've 28 pre and power tubes in constant use and have no noise issues. However it's the nature of the beast especially with old tubes.