Cerious Technologies NEW Graphene Cables

there are,unfortunately, those individuals that just have to let you know how much smarter they are than you....and rain on parades everywhere.Enter..ptss...

ptss as far as I can figure out every one of your posts here and on other threads are to troll. Why not just leave us be to enjoy what we like?

I asked Bob to put in some desert blossom honey in my GE cables which are really great. They have a nice sweet top end and they help with my allergies...

For real though, excellent cables for both audio and video. My plasma tv has never looked better.

I agree with mac48025. I just got a another pair of the speaker cables for a second system and I love what I hear. The best cables in my system ever and I've tried a few. I don't care if the cables are made of fairy dust although some people will want to debate the exact composition of that dust and then present alternative facts.

why is it the only complaints about these cables come from a very few who have never heard them?

With all seriousness the Cerious GE cables are not only the best cables I've ever owned but are one of the best audio values to boot. I couldn't be happier with them and I send a huge thanks out to all those here that shared heir experiences with these cables that led me to purchasing them. I MIGHT have paid some heed to the very few negative comments had they actually heard the cables they mock, but all they did was make me question their true motives. 

Ozzy and calloway. I guess you should just 'look it up. 

Yea ptss....'graphene spray' but not 'graphene particles'...WOOPS...Go some place else where you can be a positive addition to the conversation at hand.The CT GE cables are superb..

same here ptss!  I don't give a "F" if Bob's cables are made out of rubber as long as they sound good.  And I am willing to pay him for his cables because I don't know how to make a good sounding cable from cheap rubber.  It is also not fair to criticized his cables if you have not heard them.  As a matter of fact, I just got the speaker cables from Bob and I sent him an email after listened to them for less than an hour that I am keeping his cables.  They are just awesome!

Ok ill bite! Ptss did someone crap in your Cheerios this morning? I honestly could care less about how any piece of equipment in my system is made as long as it is reasonably priced, reliable and of course sounds great which i can attest all of Bobs cables do! 

Cerious Technologies NEW Graphene Cables--
What a 'crock' of stupid nonsense.
"Graphene 'particles' per grost--another load of "Crap".
Cerious Technologies stated they 'make' their own grapene 'in house'--another load of crap.
Let's get "serious" and off this audiophoolery. Pooleez

Hi Tommy, 
I do appreciate your feedback regarding the CE Blue power cables.  I use the EML XLS  300b in my amplifier and it's an excellent match. 
Charles 

Charles,

I can't make any comparison to your current PCs, but the blue sounds amazing with my ASL Tulip SET. I just swapped out my old Emission Labs mesh plate 45s for a new pair of their 2A3 mesh. I thought I might lose some of that 45 "magic", but the magic is still there, along with a little more authority & headroom.

Dave,
I've heard your model of Tidal speakers on two occasions and I know how good they are.  You have a rare yet extraordinary amplifier so I believe your system has very exceptional resolution and ability to finely discriminate musical nuance and subtleties. 

You had/have the HFC CT-1 power cable which are universally praised.  IMO it says quite a bit that the CE Graphene are right at home in such a system as yours.  I've used the same power cables for 7.5 years  (happily). Based on your impressions I've a growing curiosity to try them with my SET mono blocks in the near future. Thanks for your input. 
Charles 

Charles..yes i am ...the 'blue' versions.Could not be happier..

Hi Dave (Calloway),
Are you using the Cerious Graphene power cables with the Grail mono blocks?
Charles 

Boogie, Shillin. Whole Lotta Shillin goin on. Shill on the Hill. I Found my Shill on Blueberry Hill.

😀

Calloway,
well said, I couldn't agree more . I purchased another set of speaker cables and interconnects today. Time to recable a second system.

calloway
It really doesn't matter what the naysayers think..They are great cables that outperform cables at greater than 10x the price in my system. The speaker cables on my Grail SET mono block amps,which are among the best made, are a superb match.

Huh? There aren't any naysayers on this thread.

It really doesn't matter what the naysayers think..They are great cables that outperform cables at greater than 10x the price in my system. The speaker cables on my Grail SET mono block amps,which are among the best made, are a superb match..

I've always heard that the shorter the speaker cables the better, and if one must go long it's best to do it with the interconnects. For longer interconnects (and I mean really long) use XLR if possible.

If anything this helps Bob regardless what the topic is about. The thread is always bumped near the top. I would have never known this cable existed if it was off the first page.

Uh, oh, I'm getting a bad feeling again. Did someone forget to put the Roach Motels out last night?

You should be thankful they were not put out.

Ozzy - This thread has already taken a bad turn.  Instead of posting on experiences with or asking questions about  Cerious Graphene Extreme cables, we are now on a tangent of angels dancing on the head of a pin, and further digression.

Uh, oh, I'm getting a bad feeling again. Did someone forget to put the Roach Motels out last night?

@geoffkait

If you give a person a fish he’ll fish for a day. But if you teach a person to fish he’ll fish for a lifetime. - Dan Quayle  

Or, you could just teleport to the nearest seafood restaurant....

If you give a person a fish he’ll fish for a day. But if you teach a person to fish he’ll fish for a lifetime. - Dan Quayle

See, in my line of work you got to keep repeating things over and over and over again for the truth to sink in, to kind of catapult the propaganda.George W. Bush

jmcgrogan2
"Don’t believe everything you read on the Internet, just because it’s in quotes, with some famous persons name attached to it." - Abraham Lincoln

"You can’t PROVE it!" - juror no. 3 (the last holdout), 12 Angry Men

Geoff,

while much of the discussion of photons and electrons might be over my head I look forward to reading more off what you, Al, Bob and others have to share on the subject. Call me an audio geek for wanting to learn more! 

Great einstein quote.....if only my knowledge equaled my imagination!
Heres another....

" The important thing is not to stop questioning. Curiosity has its own reason for existing." - A. Einstein

 
lak
geoffkait,
I appreciate your vast knowledge and I learn from many of your posts.
We should all learn to be more tolerant of other's comments because after all they are EGO driven.

Imagnation is more important than knowledge.  - A. Einstein

geoffkait,
I appreciate your vast knowledge and I learn from many of your posts.
We should all learn to be more tolerant of other's comments because after all they are EGO driven.

Charles wrote,
"Mac I also have much appreciation for science and engineering. Knowledge is a good thing no doubt. I just don’t need to know the why and how of something to enjoy it. Give me an opportunity to listen to a audio product and I’ll render a verdict.

Lack of an adequate explanation as to how something works won’t detract from its performance."

On the other hand it can be quite entertaining to watch audiophiles’ eyes glaze over at the mere mention of electrons or photons or heaven forbid, quantum mechanics. Let us just hope with all our hearts no one ever starts a thread on quantum mechanics based tweaks. Let’s keep this civil. 😄

Al wrote,

"One further point which may be of interest regarding the various forms of electromagnetic waves that I mentioned, namely visible and invisible light, radio signals, X-rays, gamma rays, microwave radiation, and any kind of electrical signal."

Al, glad to see you hop on board the photon train. Compare and contrast what I wrote last year on this very subject on this very thread, to whit,

"All electromagnetc waves are comprised of photons. I.e., not only is visible light on the electromagnetic spectrum made of photons, but also X- rays, gamma rays, HF radio waves, SHF radio waves - everything on the electromagnetic spectrum. Including audio signals. They’re all photons."

Is there an echo in here?

😀
cheers

The GE speaker cables have made a very nice contribution to my overall sound.  I wanted to get more potent bass, better dynamics and more organic sound of real live instruments and the GEs deliver it.  My VMPS RM40 speakers have never sounded better.  After continually returning to Speltz Anticables following trials with several different cables, I stepped out and tried the MG Audio Planus III copper wires which finally were significantly better sounding than any I'd had before.  I tried some of Philip's Amadi Maddie Signature silver wired cables and they were even better and a whole lot less expensive than the MGs.  They were also easier to use as they were not fragile and didn't pose a tripping hazard.  The GEs were much better in all the areas I listed at the beginning, plus you could hear more sounds that were previously obscured at least partially.  The build quality is outstanding and if someone breaks into my house, I can take those suckers off the binding posts and beat the Ned out of the unsuspecting intruder.  For those that are unfamiliar with Ned being a quantity, you'll need to check this term with my mother-in-law who has told me this several times while playing cards against her.

Al,
Given the extremely high speed of propagation velocity the delay factor would be as you note insignificant (due to the lengths of audio cable). But no doubt that insulation/dielectrics exert some level of sonic influence.

For example the maker of Ocellia cables is adamant that there are characteristics that favor natural materials (cotton, paper or silk) vs synthetic/plastics in regard to dielectrics. Obviously I’m in no position to affirm or reject this idea other than to say that so many variables affect what we hear. Granted some variables are more recognized and supportable than others. Audio is fascinating, television/visual domain doesn’t seem as mysterious or interesting (or maybe I'm simply bias toward this field).  There’s just something about listening to music and its effect on humans.
Charles

Lol Charles, I knew it was Al. And I agree, he's quite an asset to the site.

Good insight klh007.  Funny you mention Mapleshades wire as I had their Double Helix Plus speaker wires at the same time I recieved my GE cables. I really liked the Mapleshades and I hated sending them back but the GE were more to my liking. There's something special about the GE cables that's difficult to describe. They sound "right " to me......the right balance of warmth, detail, dynamics, tone and great imaging. 

Thanks for the nice words, gentlemen.

Charles, yes, I assumed that "Alet" was either an auto-correct thing or a typo.  Although that happens to be the name of a river in France.  For the record, in my case Al is short for Alfred.

Regarding your comment that followed my previous post, as previously indicated the choice of insulation material will affect the propagation velocity of the cable.  In itself propagation velocity figures to be insignificant in the case of analog signal transmission, since the propagation velocity of pretty much any cable will exceed 50% of the speed of light, and hence the resulting delay will be completely insignificant.  It may very well be significant, though, in many cases involving digital signal transmission, although in ways that are component dependent and don't have a great deal of predictability.  The propagation velocity of a digital cable factors into the rationale underlying the 1.5 meter length recommendation you've probably seen cited as usually having the greatest likelihood of being optimal in S/PDIF applications.  That likelihood, though, will also be highly dependent on certain characteristics of the signal provided by the component which drives the cable, especially what are referred to as signal risetimes and falltimes, which in turn are usually unspecified.  

FWIW, my intuitive guess is that in the case of analog signal transmission the most significant consequence of the choice of insulation material is likely to relate to the effects on the signal of dielectric absorption.

Regarding your comments about overall cable design and construction, yes, that will of course affect resistance, inductance, capacitance, "characteristic impedance," skin effect, and just about any other cable parameter one might name.  Each of which will have varying significances depending on the specific application.

One further point which may be of interest regarding the various forms of electromagnetic waves that I mentioned, namely visible and invisible light, radio signals, X-rays, gamma rays, microwave radiation, and any kind of electrical signal.  What distinguishes these things from each other, most fundamentally, is simply their frequency.  And correspondingly their wavelength.  For any electromagnetic wave, and also for acoustic waves for that matter, frequency x wavelength in a particular medium equals propagation velocity in that medium.

Best regards,
-- Al
 

Darn auto spell,  of course I meant Al not Alet. 
Charles 

charles1dad, Your comment, " Based on your explanation this would suggest that the insulation material and construction/implementation is probably more a significant factor affecting sound quality than many would suspect.", leads to make me believe the graphene surrounding the wires in the GE cables is doing something right in regard to photons resulting in better conduction/sound. Other cables that use very thin insulation, Mapleshade & Anticables, have in my opinion great initial transient response and dynamics that might also be linked to in this case very little insulation. I'm encouraged by Bob's great results from using graphene in his cables, and especially how affordable they are considering the advanced tech and the cables users are replacing with GE cables, kudos Bob.

Mac, 
Alet is universally recognized as an asset to this site for his technical knowledge.  Just as noteworthy for me is his unfailing decorum,  class and maturity. Mac I also have much appreciation for science and engineering.  Knowledge is a good thing no doubt.  I just don't need to know the why and how of something to enjoy it. Give me an opportunity to listen to a audio product and I'll render a verdict. 

Lack of an adequate explanation as to how something works won't detract from its performance. 
Coincident 

While I don't care how GE cables obtain their great sound, I find the scientific information quite interesting. I particularly applaud Al's non-condescending and non-combative approach to explaining the technical aspects of audio. All this talk of electrons and photons is above my head but I'm starting to get the grasp of it. I should have paid more attention in my physics classes! So while I may never fully understand the science behind my audio equipment, I will continue to enjoy the fruits of their scientific achievement.......beautiful music. 

Al,
Based on your explanation this would suggest that the insulation material and construction/implementation is probably more a significant factor affecting sound quality than many would suspect.
Charles