Cable supports on the cheap...


Has anyone in audio tweak land tried using post tension cable chairs or rebar chairs for audio cable supports?

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For all the anal-retentive cable lifter audiophiles, just lay your cables on a bunch of Charmin Ultrasoft rolls.  If you can't hear a difference, then you haven't wasted any money.

Lets make this easy AND cheap - just take a cd jewel box, open it up, turn it on the side and you have a good cable support and almost everyone has some of those!

According to Synergistic research aluminum is the material of choice. 

cable riser demo

these aren't on the cheap: but Money back guarantee- I didn't hear a difference on my macbook with my $2 dollar speakers and $10 DAC :) 

But this would be an easy blind test- for those of you whose computer is hooked up to your hifi- have someone else hide the computer from view, and have them click the video back and forth on the with/without risers sections and see if you can tell the difference 9/10 times. 

When I first tested this I took paper towel and toilet paper insides and cut them down to a few inches then cut out a groove in the middle and set them up to get my cables off the ground.  Using the paper towel cylinder allowed me to cut different heights.  This worked and I used this for about a year then I upgraded to the Audioquest Fog Lifters.

I have found that when my system was in the basement, I could easily hear a difference ,  but now that my system is upstairs, it makes no difference at all!  Dollar stores are a great place for finding what you need.  you can use pretty much anything that’s not metal to lift you speaker cables off the floor.

Use egg cartons. Shaped perfectly and everyone has'em.

Take the eggs out first.

On a budget?

  • take a trip to a dollar store
  • buy childrens alphabet bricks e.g. A, B, C, .....Z
  • buy some craft sticks
  • hot glue a piece of the craft stick to opposite sides to stop the cable sliding off the block
  • if your cables are heavy/stiff, then glue the block onto a 2" or 3" ceramic backsplash tile to stop it tipping over

Nice thing about this solution, being wood they are non conductive and non capacitive - zero ipact on the signal

If desired, add the foam strip as mentioned above or use a rubber band across the two craft stick uprights to support the cables

I decided to try these because I have man-made fiber broadloom on the floor and figured this may impact the capacitive effect of the overall cable performance - lifting them off the broadloom mitigates that problem.

Since I was not conviced it would have an impact I opted for a very affordable solution. They are still there and seem to do the trick.

People are "amused" at yet another crazy (but very affordable) solution

Regards - Steve

AudioQuest Fog Lifters are pretty inexpensive (8-$149) look kinda cool and seem to work pretty well.

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A late friend with sensitive ears used the cardboard tubes from used-up toilet-paper rolls.

Thr cables should sit on a means of suspension like a rubber band or damping material like thick sealing foam tape.

I bought plastic rebar chairs for 20 cents each and hot glued them to 4" squares of wood.  I also bought steel rods from Amazon and bent them and poked them into the same squares.  For heavy cables you will want bigger squares.  But I've never heard a difference with mine or anybody else's cable lifters.   You can come up with reasons why they should work including vibration, static, capacitance etc. etc.. but I hear no difference with or without them

Yes. Pretty much everyone I would suspect....

I mean, if you're willing to try to elevate the cables, just about anything would work. I know Danny at GR Research has mentioned using kids' Tinkertoys. Not sure how that would look, but again, I imagine anything would get the job done.