Audio stand needed....Moving main components from mechanical room to listening room

Here is my recommendation. I have had one of their vertical racks for 14 years, and I am very satisfied. They look good in a domestic setting, and they perform well and are very adjustable

Audio Racks, Modular Audio Video Furniture and Isolation Platforms at Adona Corporation.

Call Robert at Live Vibe Audio. His stands and racks are by far the best I’ve heard at a reasonable price. 

Check out Quadraspire. A lot of options, but check the depth. I would probably do a  single for the TT and put it right next to a double wide so you have some mechanical separation for the vinyl. 

If you have the funds, HRS would be my choice.

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@roxy54  Great connection

Thanks everyone for thee recommendations.  Really appreciate it!

Woots

HRS and if you want custom or even semi custom with fantastic sonics AND incredible craftsmanship seek out Arnold at Core Audio Designs in California…… worth the inquiry….

@woots 

I will amend my first recommendation. What @arafiq  recommended, live vibe, is vastly superior sonically to Adona. I've wanted their speaker stands and component supports, and they are the real deal. I didn't mention them, because they are expensive, but looking at your system, you have a lot invested, and there is no question that you would hear a big difference in sound quality for the better. 

Check out Solid Steel on MD site.  They make a really nice rectangular unit, and you can have 2 or 3 shelves, there are options.  The 2 shelf is $700 and the 3 shelf is $1000.  Great quality, I have 3 of their audio racks over 2 of my systems.  Does not dull or brighten the sound and rock solid stable.

@woots

Check out core audio designs. Arnold at Core can custom design a rack to your specifications. Owning an another rack never cross my mind in last 15 plus years. I have owned several configurations from Core as my system evolved over the years. Always a great experience with Arnold. 
http://coreaudiodesigns.com/products/component-racks/

Sound Anchors, and they can do custom. The entire rack itself is an antivibration device. Good price/performance value and built like a tank.

https://www.soundanchors.com/products/hi-fi-home-audio/amp-stand

Gestalt Audio is a distributor/seller.

Think about using a wall mounted stand for your turntable .

@woots 

I agree with @lalitk that core makes beautiful racks, but I still think that if ultimate performance is your goal, Live Vibe is the best choice. They are actually the opposite of anti-vibration. They allow speakers and components to vibrate as they will, and they then quickly drain that vibrations ground, and the results are stunning. 

@woots  Can you work a skill saw and a drill? Would you consider a DIY project?  Have a look at my virtual system.  My build shows the few steps required.  This unit is SOLID and you can build to your exact requirements.  It was satisfying to build. Except for paint dry time, its a one day project.   Happy to answer any questions if you PM me.  Cheers. 

Sound Anchors. 

They make custom stands as well. 

+1 for the Quadraspire, I have had the Q4 for 24 years now. Never had need nor inclination  (let alone space) to separate the TT, just six shelves with the TT on top. 

https://butcherblockacoustics.com

They'll make whatever you need...

@bigtwin Yes, I can operate a skill saw.....however, my confidence in building a stand that will hold my audio equipment is a road I'm not going to take.  I appreciate the offer though.

@roxy54 @lalitk @arafiq @stereo5 @winoguy17 @tomic601 @bigtwin @vair68robert @mgw @vinylshadow @tyray @gdnrbob @chayro 

Thanks so much everyone!  I'm really blown away at the contributions and possibilities that exist out there and would have never found without you great Audiogoner's. It shows how many craftsman are out there with direct to consumer business models that rely on word of mouth and referrals which is terrific.  Over the next couple weeks or so I will read and review then make my decision. Much appreciation and I'm sure I will have more questions.

Woots

I forgot about Sound Anchors, they made my racks for my monoblocks and subs.

Also, Townshend Audio offers nice platforms and isolation devices- I don't think they do racks, though.

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@woots Don't know if this will do the trick for you or not.  However, check out Salamander racks.  Don't know if they still do this and can't remember what time of the year, but they used to run an annual sale that makes their stuff less expensive.  You can customize their racks in many different configurations & styles.  I have a basic, open version of one of their Synergy racks that works quite well for my system.  My rack is quite sturdy.  I don't need any isolation for any of my components and I play my music quite loudly most of the time.  Unless you listen at unhealthy, ear-splitting levels, I don't think you'll need isolation stuff.  This is what my rack looks like without the back panel.

Synergy Core Module - Salamander Designs   

@woots Correction:  the link I gave you is the kick-off point for customizing the Salamander synergy racks.  What I have is the 7-shelf version with black posts, open in the back and on all sides, mainly for proper ventilation for my amp.  The link shows a super duper ginormous configuration.

Depending on where you are located, I custom build (view my system) and will deliver and assemble on-site.  Completely customizable to whatever size and configuration needed. 

I have a Pangea, four shelf rack I’m not using.

Make me an offer if you’re interested.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/10BBbN8Vd2_2sgQAoMI8N5CqnWdhASrbH

I know that Salamander makes a lot of different racks and configurations, but I don't think that they can really be called a serious audiophile performance brand, but more of an upscale lifestyle brand.

@oldaudiophile  

I have had Salamander in a previous home.  Nice stuff.  How wide is each section?  I think my max is 2 wide.  I will probably need to use some anti-vibration platters.

@roxy54 +1

@woots, I think we are talking about the same thing as the Sound Anchors products do the exact same thing and 'send' the vibrations of your rig all the way down to the tips of the metal spikes screwed in the bottom of the component stand  to the conecoasters and then to the floor. Everything has a vibration, especially electrical mechanical components turned on.  

Take your dimensions to a talented carpenter to get exactly what you require and use high quality footers to aid in further isolating your components. 

As for your turntable, this might be of interest to you, I came across this a few days ago and can't personally vouch for it but maybe it can negate the bother of figuring out which rack would be the best in isolating your turntable.

All the best,
Nonoise

@woots

Buying a rack and then adding vibration control can be tedious and expensive. It does however gives you ultimate flexibility with trying different vibration control devices (a tweaker’s delight). But if you’re the guy that don’t want to mess around with vibration controls then couple of ultra elegant solutions comes to mind in addition to Core Audio Designs,

Modulum Audio - https://modulumaudio.com/products/

Artesania Audio - https://artesaniaaudio.com

Bassocontinuo - https://bassocontinuo.biz/lines/ultimate-line/

And lastly, SRA isolation platform customized for your components. 
https://www.silentrunningaudio.com/component-specific-design/

Salamander makes great stands that are very reasonably priced and you can get them with casters. Have to get casters on stands. 
 

Always been amazed how crazy people are to not use casters for amplifier stands.  Amplifiers don't get impacted by how a stand rests on the floor as long as it's designed with some mass. The other gear you have also should have casters but especially amplifiers.

@emergingsoul 

"There you go again!" as the late Ronald Reagan used to say. As usual, you say the opposite of what is true, and then call people who do the right thing crazy.

Using casters on an equipment rack is absolutely the worst thing that you could do. They move, they are unstable and they don't aid in draining vibrational energy.

@emergingsoul,

The other gear you have also should have casters but especially amplifiers.

I don’t think you mean ’casters’ as they are wheels and that’s a tough thing to pull off trying to attach a wheel to an amp or other components . I think you meant something like Vibrapod Cones? But I do agree that casters or wheels are perfect for attaching to the bottom of the component stand for ease of use and getting to the back of the rack/component stand when making changes and adjustments. Especially if the rack is one vertical piece of shelves. Which makes said rack very heavy indeed.

@tyray 

Emergingsoul meant putting amos on racks with casters, and you're just as wrong as he is. Casters are bad if good sound is your priority. You say it makes moving convenient when making gear changes. How about placing it with sufficient room behind it to begin with like most other people do?

@roxy54 , I try to be civil when having discussions here. Of course I understand casters or wheels aren’t as anti vibration as spikes and metal coasters. Not everyone has the luxury of having sufficient room as you may have for an audio rack. Some folks have small listening rooms and really don’t care about anti vibration. But of course you knew that right? @emergingsoul brought up casters/wheels, not me. But you probably have spikes on wooden floors, right?

@roxy54

@tyray

i have adequate feet underneath my individual components on my rack. The casters underneath the rack are invaluable to an ever-changing landscape where I live.

I have three listening rooms and another room entirely devoted to keep all the boxes I gotta maintain. I Shuffle things around a bit. Underneath one set of speakers I have rubber feet placed on top of square acoustical ceiling tiles that allow me to slide it around when I want to. This is a really cool thing to do.

My amp racks are customized with steel pieces welded together supported by casters. It weighs alot. Ideally it would be nice not to have the casters in a perfect world. But the negligible benefit of not having casters is not perceivable and I don’t care how good you’re hearing is. For your information, my subwoofer is not on casters but on some isoacoustic rubber creations that do have importance because of all the freaking vibrating this thing does.

+1 @emergingsoul, my Sound Anchors five shelves vertical rack also has welded pieces as one unit for anti vibration and with the weight of all the gear and the rack  it really is a lot of weight and I have no problem using casters/wheels also. Ahh the subs, I haven’t got around to putting aftermarket footers on my subs, yet...Thanks for reminding me of that tweak.

@tyray @emergingsoul 

My apologies. I went overboard in my criticism of casters. I do realize that in some situations they may be needed, and I apologize for being coarse about it. 

@gdnrbob 

I have a Sound Anchors rack for 1 of my Monoblocks as well. They made me a custom rack with 9 coves. Steel filled with sand. Must weigh over 400 pounds. 

I've got all Townshend everything and they do not make racks. However, they do make Seismic Rack Isolation Corners which isolate equipment racks down to 30Hz. I've got those too. 

@vinylshadow 

i have a Townshend isolation unit under my turntable.  Works great. 

+1  on Core Audio. I worked with Arnold on my rack and also added a platform for my power amp. The photos in my system do not do it justice and I would be happy to share additional images if you would like. However the best option is to have a call with him and talk about your goals for the rack and hear more about his approach to the work. Best of luck!

@thr1961 what power strip is that in your pictures?

@woots Looks like you've stirred the passions of some obsessively compulsive audiophile types with this simple question.

Yes, from a scientific point of view, most living and/or otherwise energized things (e.g.  circuit boards) do, indeed, emit a certain amount of vibration and/or an electromagnetic field.  The question is how much this really affects the sound quality of your system, if at all.  There are many other issues or factors related to vibrations in a sound system and sound room (e.g.  construction of the stereo components; construction of the sound room itself, like the floor; pictures hanging on the walls; windows; furnishings; etc.).  If you can truly hear a problem then, by all means, do something about it.  If not, relax, save some money and enjoy your music.  To some "audiophiles", it ain't high-end unless it costs mucho dinero and purports to do things even they or most humans on the planet can't hear or sense (e.g.  audio cables & connects).  While Salamander products aren't cheap, go to their website and check out the different products they have.  All of the dimensions and configurations they offer will be there.  My McIntosh amp fits just fine on the bottom shelf of my Salamander Synergy rack, without the back panel installed.  The MAC's weight and total weight of my other components is easily handled by the Salamander.  This helps insolate everything to the floor and I can get away with using only the standard adjustable rack feet because my sound room is wall-to-wall carpet.  I should add that I usually like to listen to my music at what I consider to be concert level gain (e.g.  50% to 60% on the MAC, depending upon digital or vinyl source).  If your sound room is, for example, proverbial hardwood flooring on top of half or three-quarter inch plywood subflooring, with 16" O.C. single 2" X 10" floor joists (12" O.C. with doubled or even tripled up or married floor joists is even more rigid and cross bracing helps, too), with or without felt or some other liner, you might feel a need to invest in spikes or whatever.  However, I would wait to see if you can actually hear a negative impact on sound performance.

When you see magico offering a rack for $40,000 you really have to wonder what the hell is going on.

All the isolation specs that you see, does anybody really really really notice a sonic difference. Yeah if you don't isolate the turntable its going to skip around during earthquakes and dance parties and while doing jumping jacks.

@tyray  it is a basic Furtech 6 outlet strip. I actually just upgraded it to a 

Furutech Pure Power 6 NCF along with their Project V1 power cord. 

@oldaudiophile Thanks for the input. Yeah, didn’t mean to stir anyone up just looking for a nice stand.  I have wall to wall carpet and based on my speakers and I how I set those up I plan on just using spikes onto the concrete floor as my system resides in my basement. 
 

Woots

@thr1961 

Beautiful system!  Do you still own CS Port TAT1M2? 

The OP might want to consider having a local cabinet maker build what he would need. I had a local guy that builds and installs high end cabinets do a pair for me. One, a riser, to go on top of my Salamander synergy cabinet. The other for my guitar amps. Price was very reasonable and very high quality workmanship. Both can be seen in my virtual system photos.

@lalitk  -- Thank you.  Yes, I still have the CS Port and just moved up to a Koetsu Blue Lace. Still playing with SUTs and will be receiving a Koetsu in the next week or so to try.

Black frame, but wood shelves.  Built to custom sizes.

https://www.fernandroby.com/products/details/rack-1