If you know that a user is a dealer and they fail to disclose and attacks other users because they make a point against their interest, do you expose the user?
I know of a gentleman here that continuously posts and goes after people and does not disclose who he is.
@pesky_wabbit he is probably deleting them as more people that I thought are calling out his bs, this one is not disappearing unless it gets censored..
I started this thread because I honestly did not know how to proceed with his aggressive behavior and when I found out he sells some of the nonsense it all made sense.
He has no scientific/technical way to defend some of the things he sells and claims, so when someone brings up something that contradicts his bs, he chooses to get personal and abusing instead of focusing on learning and selling better products.
@mahgisterdo you have some instructions on how to build the lenses/resonators you built?
I am back in the US for a couple of weeks and I will like to try some of your tweaks.
Take some tubes or bottles, construct for them a neck with straws of variable lenght by adding segments or substracting segments , and with straws of variable perimeter ....No need to calculate anything for this fun experiment....make some other tubes of different volume size without neck only a fabric cloth for filtering the aperture also with variable size...The first volume will absorb more than diffuse by virtue of the ratio between the volume and his neck, the other without neck will diffuse more than they absorb...
But remember that the mechanical Helmoltz control cannot replace the balance between passive material treatment with absorbing surfaces, diffusive surfaces and reflecting surfaces at the right spot in the room... I make all this by EARS listening experiments during many months each day... It was the more fun i ever have...
Make a few of them, tubes and bottles with different size and put them on various reflection point in the room..
Only this fun experiment will give you a "taste" of things to come..
Now it is impossible to design these bottles and tubes in a grid of resonators and diffusers with an priori size because of the specificity of each room content, and geometry and because of the specific needs of each speakers type...
This grid of H. R. has the goal to change the distribution of the zone pressures to accomodate the room response to this specific speakers you own FOR YOUR EARS who act like a microphone... The timbre of instrument response from the speakers is used here like a test frequency coming from an electronical equalizer, instead here the grid of tubes is a mechanical equalizer... The volume of the tubes must be varied...
I eliminate negative impact of one tube by the self correecting number of the tubes in my grid designed by adding one or two or three at a times with the response of my ears to correct mechanically each one ratio aperture or neck lenght... It is easy and fun like tuning a piano...Anybody can do it with self confidence... And we learn how to listen in the process... it is an INCREMENTAL process of correction of the room for our specific speakers...
You must experiment...
I did mine on a long time experiment each day non stop for months...It cost me peanuts...
Each room need his particular grid...
But the principle is very simple and easy to play with IF YOU HAVE A DEDICATED ROOM... If not your wife will divorce... Sorry... 😁😊
But a room need material passive treatment also ...
Helmholtz resonators and diffusers cannot replace treatment, and passive material treatment cannot in no way replace mechanical Helmholtz control...
my room is a dedicated audio room for sure and my numerous tubes look like the pipe organ distributed around my room and two listening positions...
The result is so amazing that my system of 500 bucks give a ratio S.Q. /price over the roof....
No sellers of acoustic panels sells a grid of resonator which anyway must be tuned by ears for specific ears, room and speakers..If a pro acoustician would dare to do that the cost will be more near 100,000 dollars with the time need for the tuning and the material cost of the passive treatment plus the cost of the esthetically pleasing H.R. resonators and diffusers......
Think about that: it cost me nothing save using junk materials...It is not esthetical though but i dont give a dam, i dont want and i cannot afford to throw my money...
An audiophile system was my dream beginning was i had 24 years old...life never give me the time to do it and learn it right till my retirement...
Why do you think my information dont please everyone?
For sure you need a dedicated audio room... This is the ONLY costly device need for audio , NOT THE GEAR, the room...Almost all other audiophiles claim that the gear matter first and last, but they are wrong...Almost no one experimentr with acoustic, most people buy acoustic panels all stop there at best...
The electronical engineering industry is mature for the last 70 years...A good amplifier of 1960 is a good one today...
But the science of small room acoustic exist with the demand which exist ONLY for the last few decades with the production of stereo comnplex separate audio system parts...
As I said previous with different words. Some people sell stuff, and they don't know how it works. Is that science or just luck. Mahgister and I are grasping straws, but we know how and why they work so we put them to great use as we do with minerals and metals of various shapes suspended from a ceiling or placed on a flat surface or attached to a wall. The compressive we hear is the result of the shear velocity in solids and their shapes.
My suggestion is for the listener to study up on shear wave polarity and their velocity as well as laminar flow. With some application and experimenting there is much to be learned and gained in the field of wave transmission. Tom
But TRUST your ears and educate your listening with each modification effects...
Almost everyone think that hearing is a skill limited and ruled only by a decibel scale resolution and a frequency scale limits...
But it is simplistic assumption about hearing power who use sound in a very complex way to extract information from the source of sound and deduce many qualities of this source even his image for example in the case of blind people acting like bat....
We are all unrecognized bats.... Ask someone who become blind and must learn to SEE sounds...
And remember that the sound dont come from the speaker but from the room between your ears and the speakers...buy good speakers not 100,000 bucks speakers...
Then you will not put money on 100,000 bucks amplifier either .... I am happy for those who can throw this amount of money, but it is not necessary to enjoy music and beautiful acoustic...
Most S.Q, come from acoustic when you use basic good gear...Ask any scientist...
My deepest respects to you...
@mahgister Thank you!!! I will give it a try. HRs always fascinated me.
Indeed , I wonder how just many members, who have witnessed his online persona and posting style here . have been entirely put off from purchasing anything that he pedals … Que the “I get enough orders anyway” weenering responce
New to the thread. Random thoughts after reading all.
1) Dealers should ID themselves. I don’t know if that is written anywhere but it certainly seems to be an expectation here.
2) Being a dealer doesn’t mean they have to check their personality at the door. Audio Troy can say what he wants. At least he is clear about what he does.
3) I enjoy reading MCs posts for their pungent sarcasm even though I usually disagree with him. If he has been shilling for a product and been coy about it, that would not be cool. He certainly has attacked others here for doing the same.
4) Budget audiophilia is cool. It is more interesting to make a quality product with financial constraints, and assemble a like system takes more planning.
MC stated in a previous post before he was asked to take a break from the 'Gon that he works for Townshend. He is also working on a couple other things since he retired from his "normal" work and when he returns he will provide more details in addition to some articles he intends to post on the hobby.
When he comes back, I expect him to be less confrontational/ignore his haters. I am not a fan nor a hater - I appreciate some very good information he passed along that improved my system for far less than the cost of upgrading components, and of course I passed on a number of things that he recommends because they didn't make sense for me to buy (fuses, Schuman resonators, subwoofers, HFTs, etc.) but many people do use and keep them or else they would have taken advantage of a money back guarantee) or the people that sell them (the Ted Denny's of the world) would not be in business.
MC is very enthusiastic about the hobby, and I think he exaggerates the benefits of many tweaks, but I do think he cares so much that they are significant in his mind. I look forward to his future contributions and hope his confrontations with his haters don't return (at least in both directions).
Enough of the "haters" references. We are all sick of it here.
If someone draws consistent ire from many others best they take a look in the mirror. Period. If one feels hated and actually cares about it, then do something about it. It will probably work. Hint: Spreading it around and blaming everyone else will only make it worse.
“A relationship without trust is like a car without fuel, it can’t move ahead.”
NPD is a mental illness. Not much can be done about it in many cases I read. People just need to be alert and educated.
MC stated in a previous post before he was asked to take a break from the ’Gon that he works for Townshend. He is also working on a couple other things since he retired from his "normal" work and when he returns he will provide more details in addition to some articles he intends to post on the hobby.
When he comes back, I expect him to be less confrontational/ignore his haters. I am not a fan nor a hater - I appreciate some very good information he passed along that improved my system for far less than the cost of upgrading components, and of course I passed on a number of things that he recommends because they didn’t make sense for me to buy (fuses, Schuman resonators, subwoofers, HFTs, etc.) but many people do use and keep them or else they would have taken advantage of a money back guarantee) or the people that sell them (the Ted Denny’s of the world) would not be in business.
MC is very enthusiastic about the hobby, and I think he exaggerates the benefits of many tweaks, but I do think he cares so much that they are significant in his mind. I look forward to his future contributions and hope his confrontations with his haters don’t return (at least in both directions).
my take on miller carbon is that he is a long time dedicated audiophile, pretty smart guy, figured out a lot of useful, positive stuff for himself in this hobby - in this respect he has a lot to share and can be a positive contributor to the a-gon community
the problems have been
1) his tone -- always touting his own superiority, speaking down to others (those of us who have lived a lot of life recognize this as a sign of his own frailty, and it would engender some compassion, except that it makes his persona so darned unlikable), and
2) as mentioned below, his mistaken belief that his own findings are truisms, panaceas applicable to all, just because they may have been for him (refer to point 1 above)... thus he delivers all his commentary on this forum with such a heavy hand, without restraint, on blast all the time, especially with respect to his favorite products du jour
combine 1) and 2)... the response and animus he engenders is entirely predictable, and deserved
all this said, it would be a good thing if he returned with a milder, more restrained version of himself, though, as another old dog, i am not sure that that particular old dog can learn the good new trick...
“ MC stated in a previous post before he was asked to take a break from the 'Gon that he works for Townshend. “
A somewhat mealy mouthed way of conveying that MC actually had his posting privileges revoked for constant rule infractions , attempting to manipulate the forum to his will, and generally being more trouble than he was worth !
@jjss49 - +1 right on the money. I am not going to engage with his haters, a relatively small group that are very vocal. If you don't like him. just don't read his posts. No need to complain about him - of course disagree if you have a problem with what he is saying about a component, tweak or whatever.
I think with his new role as a paid endorser he will have to play nicer in the sandbox when he returns. It seems that the people that like him being a contributing participant in the community are not as vocal as the haters, but I would bet they signifcantly outnumber them.
Everyone is entitled to their own opinion but please don’t assume you know the whole story and are in a position to instruct others. You do not. Also please stop talking about haters. We are done with that!
If you dont understand the difference between love and hate and judging others too harshly you will distort with sarcasm any wise sentence to your own agenda...
Try to understand before mocking...
I dont defend MC harsh manners at all, i hate them, but hating someone and pointing to him always is useless...
And my point about moral imagination and topology is deeper than some sarcasm..
Ask me i will explain it to you if it exceed your brain power...I will draw an image for you because it seems you like them a lot...
Me too i can use sarcasm.... 😊😊😊😊😊😁😁😁😁😊😊😊😊
Is martyrdom a thing in audio? Sounds like some are preparing for the second coming. jeez.
I dont defend MC bad behaviour...I hate it...But i dont hate anybody MC included...Every people has a positive and negative side, even idiots, save hypocrits but i will not answer their post anyway...Silence is better than attack in these case...
Otherwise polite discussion and arguments are the best way....
I dont like the systematic gangbang in a consistent manner against someone... ANYBODY...
Any adult confront someone who abuse him without appealing to a crowd...
You wrote to me one time because i dare to speak to him about audio....What do you call that? I know that you wanted to act friendly toward me and i thank you for that, i have greatly appreciated it, but i cannot go with one against another one save in exceptional abuse case...
Dividing people in groups against ANYBODY is what i hate the most...
I am able to confront big ego ALONE....
No need to call a crowd...
I apologize if my post hurt you...It was not my intention but instead clarifying my own position....You are a very sensible and honest person....
My deepest respect to you...
please do explain the tolerance for hypocrisy displayed by the large box of Chinese tweeters…..
You are right about the created division...Any too big ego will create divisions...
But remember that toxicity is one thing, and contagious disease another one...
Toxic aspect of one personality did not give us the right to scapegoating someone and creating polarising alternatives around him like : for or against MC...
Worst than toxicity of one ego is the contagious hating polarising hysteria of many or few ...
All is not black or white here....
Ok i will mute myself for now...I apologize for my stance...
I like everydoby positive aspects of all people here....It is my way to love everybody...
To be frank i like to have friends here.... All people here are interesting for me in their own way....
As the saying goes “ Even From Beyond The Grave “ this Toxic individual engenders Fractious Disharmony upon this forum … Good Riddance
i don’t hate him. i will call out a bully and a hypocrite anytime. When i make those same errors, may God grace me with the emotional intelligence to hear that from others. Your tolerance is admirable but your stated abhorrence for hypocrisy rings a bit hollow…
I like that dealers are on this site offering up options. I'm not certain why it rubs people wrong. it's just an opinion but they tend to know a little about their products.
I apologize when i am wrong ...And i am wrong often because i post much...
It is not a game for me...And not an ideological right/left game either for me...
I dont straddle any fence, especially not the fence you try to create yourself between someone and others...
When i answer a post and react in a too rapid or rude way i apologize so what?
Do you think that all people here had a political playbook or an insightful infaillible understanding ?
I denounce people so much? what are you speaking about ?
i answered many posts here and when i am wrong or too much carried by my passion i apologize or make room in my arguments for others perspective, so what?
The only one who claim to be "pure" and right here is yourself not me...
How many times did you apologize here? never?
Myself i had been if not wrong too much passionate and i apologized because i was educated to recognize my own limitations...
Not you?
And yet you never hesitate to point at someone else, do you?
You straddle the fence between being oh, so holy and above it all and at the same time denounce others only to apologize, often, since you do it so much.
I am a passionate man too much sometimes but truth matter more for me than my own opinion...
Then i apologize when i sense i am not completely right... If you think that this is a game of my part this say more about you than about me...
By the way i know too much what is a "saint" to pretend to be one... But i pretend to be not completely stupid...
Yes i know i had a big ego...I will not contradict you on this...
in the context of our discussion...I am WRONG to come back to political point of view to justify myself... Even if everybody know on what side of the fence is MC and where you are...
You are perfectly right here...
Do you understand now WHY i must apologize sometime?
Do you understand how work a faithful discussion? it is not a game for me... when we discuss TRUTH matter... And NOBODY OWN TRUTH... especially not me...
Anyway i apologize to you and to all because my post alluding to politic was OIL THROW ON A FIRE.. Then yes you are right i am wrong about this part of my post...
By the way, i respect your intelligence but sometimes passions collide....
Then truth matter...
and apology is needed...
And there you go, again. You always have to play the political angle when you have nothing to use. Where does politics play in this? You’ve done it before when the discussion/debate was over Covid, calling me out for my political views when I was citing proven medical science. Now you’re doing it again.
I don’t pretend to be a saint, a savior, or any kind of righteous individual. The way you frame your accusations is kind of funny. I guess in order to do so you can create a field from which to defend yourself but it’s not germane to the topic.
Carry on. 😇
All the best,
Nonoise
Anyway you are right...for my last post here....For covid it is another story i will not touch here...
@bubba12because some of them don't disclose who they are and go on to make nonsense claims, or claims that completely unfounded in facts and science.
Thus when someone, with actual knowledge, kindly and respectfully disagrees with their statement and then presents the facts as they are, supported by Ethernet's IEEE specs or PCIe specs for example, they make things personal because they either they don't have the knowledge to defend their nonsense, or they know they are wrong and make their living out selling nonsense.
For example @ted_denney, he starts threads making grandiose statements with absolute no basis on the technology, that then he has to delete because he gets called out way too many times, but not before making it personal, and viciously accusing others of whatever he feels at the time.
At the time I responded to one of his threads, there was no disclosure of who he was, so I respectfully brought up a few things about his claims that are not true. Since he could not technically defend his nonsense, he went on to the personal offensive and degrade me.
How do I know that some of the claims @ted_denney makes are not true? Well I have been contributing to different IEEE working groups, Ethernet, IB, FC, PCIe, SAS, SCSI, SLIP, and a few more specs for over 2 decades, in the different specs authorities.
I do not own the absolute truth or knowledge. I daily seek knowledge from those who know something different and can respectfully discuss things and educate me or allow for reciprocal learning experiences.
@ted_denneyattacked me a few times, one of his attacks questioning my integrity was based on the fact I don't post pictures of any of my systems.
He also demanded I prove things to him, well I don't have to prove anything to him or anyone because all you have to do is go and read the different specs for yourself.
I even presented the links to pertinent parts of the different parts of the specs where the facts are in black and white and the specs clearly contradict his claims. He even went on to question the IEEE, which is laughable and then deleted the thread.
Later in this thread, I found out he sells his nonsense; if I would have known I would have avoided the thread and him and approached people privately.
Then I started this thread because I honesty did not know how things get handled in this forum and found out that that is how he operates. Insulting and degrading people like @mahgister for example.
I have yet to find a thread where @mahgister has not been respectful; he does his thing, he shares the abundant knowledge he gains from his experiments. His system probably sounds better than most because his dedication to learning.
I just started in this forum, but we need more @mahgisters, more @nonoise, @tomic601, @pesky_wabbit and many many others, than @ted_denneys here. I do not agree on everything they say, but they give their opinions it in a respectfully manner and when there is something to be learned they graciously listen and learn.
Crap! I can't believe I just spent all this time writing something in English trying to explain out of principle why, to me, is important that we know how these @ted_denney s are so we can enjoy this forum by completely avoiding them.
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