Both are excellent.
Here is one option that would be a perfect match with rest of your Accuphase gear. https://www.usaudiomart.com/details/649669598-accuphase-dp-560/ |
REGA ISIS Valve cdp / dac it comes in two versions ... all s/s and the upgraded valve model. At $6K , look for a pre-owned model. Built like a tank ... 55 lb unit From one of the reviews below: “ .... It has a pair of balanced XLR jacks on the back panel. This takes advantage of the ISIS having fully balanced, differential circuitry throughout. There are also standard RCA outputs for those requiring it. This takes advantage of the ISIS having fully balanced, differential circuitry throughout. There are also standard RCA outputs for those requiring it. The DAC in the ISIS uses a pair of Burr Brown PCM 1794 D to A converters running in parallel dual mono mode. Analog and digital stages have their own separate power supply transformers and there are ten individual voltage regulator stages in the digital section along with another ten for the analog stage. This is indeed a very serious bit of digital hardware. Those worried about the viability of the CD format and getting your player serviced in the future, fear not. Inside the owner’s manual, there is a signature from the technician that assembled your ISIS, another tech that QC’d the electrical and mechanical systems and the tech that tested and archived not one, but two spare laser units. I think it’s safe to say that the ISIS will last longer than most of its owners and I appreciate this attention to detail, with CD transport mechanisms getting scarcer all the time...” It operates also as an independent hi-end DAC. The ISIS has a USB input on the back panel direct to its DAC so you play all your archived NAS HD drive digital tunes directly from your ISIS remote. Try to arrange an audition .... highly recommended. From the review:“ .... If anyone should be freaking out, it should be the manufacturers of CD players in the $20 – $50k range. It’s definitely a contender and in typical Rega fashion, offers value way beyond its price point. Even if you haven’t had the chance to see them assembled at the factory, the minute you open the box, the attention to detail is apparent....” https://www.tonepublications.com/review/the-rega-isis-cd-player-2/ https://hifiandmusicsource.com/2019/05/rega-isis-cd-player-review/ https://6moons.com/audioreviews/rega2/1.html |
Cdp Why? far more distortion then a top quality dac. the platter wobbles no matter how good it is the error correction has to work over time Buy a Denafrips terminator + for $6500 no player can approach this ,everything is through a hard drive or high Rez streaming . if you have money to spend extra and want a cdp it it can be very good but not in the same league ,you can spend up to $100k on digital that in many ways surpass even the best turntables in many areas S/n, THD, true 20 bit resolution , turntable 12.5 bits max ,much lower defined Bass. Cd even with DSD inferior in absolute terms. I am just making an observation. |
audioman58 Just a guess, he/she probably has a large CD collection and doesn't feel like ripping for hours or paying $19.99 a month to hear it. |
Spend the 5 -6k on a DAC and spend only a few hundred on a transport plays everything including SACD's, DVD-Audio, Blu-Ray Audio only discs and has DSD compatible USB. Spending 5-6k on a CD player is foolish and money not well spent IMHO. https://forum.psaudio.com/t/it-works-sony-ubp-x1000es-hdmi-audio-output-to-chinese-i2s-adapter-board... https://forum.psaudio.com/t/getting-oppo-dsd-output-to-the-direct-stream-dac/2744/159?u=rajugsw |
Dear Sirs, Thank you very much for your kind opinion in response. Based on your suggestions, I'll consider it more carefully. Eventually, 6000 bucks is not small sum of money. In fact, I have a couple of the field listening in one audio shop learned, the shop owner use Estoric K03xd, the latest model with stunning sound reproduction capability, the only problem is the price which would cost 12,000 almost double my budget. Since I have around 200 pcs. of CD only, and most of my time is spending on video program for news as well as music program, I think the price tag is really too high for me, even I can recognize it capability. |
I’ve owned this Yamaha for over 2 years and have had flawless performance. Built like a tank with tremendous extension and tonal accuracy. Great price for an SACD player that competes with $10k players! The Yamaha CD-S2100 CD Playerprovides a new circuit design for elimination of audio loss, plus a high precision drive mechanism for reproduction accuracy. This high-grade CD player delivers the new sound of Yamaha and is equipped with high-performance USB audio and DAC and other advanced functions. Left-right Symmetrical Construction, Independent Digital/Analog Circuit Configuration, with Top Priority on Sound Quality Digital/Analog Circuitry with Integrated Power Supplies and Screw-type Connections Eliminate Signal Transmission Loss Single-stage Configuration I/V Conversion Circuit Enables Direct Analog Output Independent Power Supplies with Complete Separation of Digital and Analog High Precision CD Drive for Greater Vibration Resistance and High Precision Signal Reading High Rigidity Aluminum CD Tray Exceptionally High Performance 32-bit D/A Converter Built-in USB DAC Functions and ASIO 2.3 Yamaha Steinberg USB Driver Insulators Allow Use of Spikes or Pads Beautiful, Sleek Design and Half-mirror Display Remote Control with Simple Design and Superior Texture Customers Also Bought |
I would suggest the CEC TL2N. Good performance and reliability. http://audio-union.com/audio-union/cec/tl2n/ |
Hi, Since you mention that you don't need sacd, and your preference, like me, is classical music. I suggest you have a look at CEC cd players and transports.You have a great system so you will need a great source! I've been using a CEC TL51xr player for the last 10 years! It is reliable and very satisfying, excellent for long listening session. The TL2N transport suggested by audio-union is on top of my list for upcoming upgrade, but of course you also need a good dac. Otherwise i would get the entry level player from accuphase. PS i am not link to audio-union, I'm Canadian and purchased my player from the previous distributer. |
I'd like to AMEN the endorsement of the Yamaha S2100. Have owned too many CD players to mention including the famed Oppo's, NAD, Cambridge Audio, etc. All sounded 'digital'. This Yamaha is the first which leaps over the expanse into the magical journey INTO the believable soundstage. There is the flagship model above this one but most importantly the S2100 includes the flagship transport mechanism. Honestly I had believed I had pretty much reached the limit of the CD's ability to sing. Not so. This $3500 player transforms CD's to analog-like texture but still opens up stunning detail. One gets pulled into the music like vinyl but with no smearing of instrument positioning. Provides 3-dimentional feel in shocking ways. Highly recommended. (Use top interconnects) |
i’d buy this one for that price range. https://www.usaudiomart.com/details/649699193-dcs-puccini-sacd-player-silver-120v-ac-input/ don’t know the seller; just noticed it yesterday and then just saw this thread. i had been thinking if i wanted to spin discs again (i don’t) that would be perfect. high quality, looks great, and very high performance. if i did not like it easy to sell and not lose anything. not considering units with SACD compatibility is wrong thinking. the market has not supported CD only units well, so the best performing one’s will have SACD as they get the most development energies......the better analog output stages, best power supplies, etc. dCS makes high level gear with the best transports, so it’s a good bet. |
@faust I have a Oppo105 that I bought new some 6+ years ago, specifically for my growing SACD and DVD-A collection. I was using a near new wonderfully built Marantz HD CD-1 ($500) as a transport to play red book, using the dac portion of my Audio Alchemy DDP-1 + PS 5. A few years later I came across superior Linear Power Supplies on ebay which significantly upped the105s game (<$400): fairly simple DIY. My points being, the105 lazer has worked flawlessly, and yes SACD classical sounds clearly superior to red book! Now, a few days ago I saw a 2 box BOW Technologies CD player on Agon for $3000. Those are built like Rolls Royces Technics sells a GLS 700 which plays both CD and SACD. The interior design, specs and build quality are impressive. Alas, I haven't been able to find a review in English. MSRP $2999. If it only lasts 6-10 years, chances are better players will be available hth |
I was in the market for a new CD/ SACD player when I went to Capital Audio Fest 2019 (the most recent one)... I listened to players costing $2000 -$6000 and then I heard the ModWright / Pioneer BluRay player. It was by far the best player I heard there, and because 5 or 6 vendors were all using it I got to hear it in numerous systems. I liked it enough that I bought one of their CAF demos. lol I keep feeding it audio discs/ video discs and a few BluRays.... and it never fails to amaze. I continue to be amazed at how good regular CDs sound. I'd suggest that you give ModWright a call.I just love it. Couldn't be happier with my purchase. |
Tks for the replies. According to my limited experience for audio shop listening till now. The best sound CD player is Estoric K03XD, the new model, but which double my budget. In addition, Estoric player will sound better with the adding of clock which push up the carrying cost even more higher. Though, I am much appreciated the sound it can produce, but I can’t afford the sky rocking price indeed. Also, when you consider the possible replacement of the CD player, the famous model would be able to sell for good re-selling price just like reputable 2nd hand car. |
I would seriously consider a brand new release-- the PS Audio Perfectwave SACD player. Haven't heard it, but they say that it's a big step up from their previous Directstream Memory Player. It's $6500, but you can trade in old equipment for up to $1950 off the retail price, or $4550. It is just a transport, you'd need a DAC to connect it to. They are using a D&M transport mechanism, so if it fails, easy to replace. If you don't need SACD, I'd take a look at the Jays Audio CDT2 Mk3 (Mk 3 new for 2021) or the Denafrips Avatar. |
Sorry-- both PS Audio's new Perfectwave SACD product, and their Directstream Memory product (no longer available new) are TRANSPORTS, not players. Just wanted to make that clear. You need a DAC with both transports. Jays Audio CDT2 Mk3 and the Denafrips Avatar are also both transports, need a DAC as well. Personally I think that is the way to go. Buy a transport and buy a separate DAC. CDT2 Mk3 is $2400 US and the Avatar is $1700 US. |
I finally found a review of the Technics SLG 700 CD/SACD/Network player, TRUE BALANCED @ $2999 in the new HiFPig https://hifipig.com/technics-sl-g700-network-cd-and-sacd-player/ |
If you are committed to getting a CDP look Brands and Models that have a VRDS (Very Rigid Disc Clamping System) Transport and Sony KSS Laser. VRDS was developed by TEAC and is used by the worlds finest CD players like Wadia, Krell, Spectral, DCS, Esoteric, Tascam, and TEAC. Top of line: full metal, Middle one: metal-carbon composite hybrid Cheap one : full plastic. I would say that Esoteric is your best bet for your budget Check out - just above your budget https://www.audiogon.com/listings/lisa7ib2-esoteric-k01-cd-sacd-player-dac-cd-sacd-players NEO was the best VRDS ever produced https://www.esoteric.jp/en/technology/vrds_neo DCS Vivaldi One https://www.dcsltd.co.uk/products/vivaldi-one/ http://www.theaudiobeat.com/highend2017/highend2017_dcs.htm Good luck |
Why not look for a used Esoteric SACD player. I use a K-05 and love it. I don't have many SACDs, but it plays regular CDs fantastically! You will be happy with the fit and finish, I promise. Else, I would just go with a Marantz transport or something like that to a good DAC like others have suggested. I like the PS Audio DirectStream DAC, which you can find used for around $3500. |
If Classical is your aim, there is no CD player I would take, at any price, over the Ensemble Dirondo. I heard it at Munich and it really made magic. http://ensembleexperience.com/dirondo-drive/ |
No... no... no... Don’t waste your money on any CD Player - none of which provide the sound quality of one of the better R2R DAC’s with a good CD transport. There is no CD player that comes close to the sound quality of the good R2R DAC’s - none of which will cost you more than about $2500, if that. Here’s a thread, which identifies the best / better ones (though, the Schitt Yggdrasil Analog 2 compares quite favorably to most of these in this thread). https://forum.audiogon.com/discussions/some-dacs-i-am-considering-any-thoughts And... you can always start ripping your CD's to FLAC files on a good server (Bryston BDP 3, etc.) to make access to your music a very convenient exeperience! |