Why the truth is not in them ??


I wonder how many people have been told something by a buyer, that was no where near the truth....I hate to think how many times I  have been told that I will send a Pay-Pal tomorrow, or I'll send you a check tonight....and never do anything of the kind.....I've been waiting for two weeks for a check from a guy in Michigan  , I have sold a item 13 times on another web-site based on what a person has told me and never received the first penny..........Does anyone tell the truth anymore ??   I have one web-site that I do business on that has a 98% negative truth rate.....Isn't that a poor way to deal with people ??     What are your experience ?? 
autospec
If you can go on youtube to listen Olafsson in Bach....It is tremendously original, his timing of voices is astonishing...

I cannot wait for his Rameau....


I am very glad you have liked him.... It is for me a very miraculous playing.... I even read his biography....
mahgister,

I forgot to mention that Ervin Nyiregyházi CD you led me to was a good choice. Playing is superb, sound quality better than expected although probably not to some picky audiophile’s standard. It may be as good as we can get from him. It also arrived within a few days from England to U.S.A.

Speaking of being picky, I am slightly dismayed that photographs on the CD cover are NOT from the performance that is on the CD. 

https://sonettoclassics.com/Official_Store.html#%21/Nyiregyh%C3%A1zi-Live-Vol-1-Century-Club-of-California-2CD/p/142377576/category=0
It is shocking, to me at least, that Kim Kardashian has only 1.69 million subscribers on youtube. Groucho and Karl, can you explain that?
Did they choose the name Murder of Crows because the singer's name is Sparhawk?
mahgister,

"And trust me Peterson is very uplifting.... Try his bible series...."
No, thanks. We have all done such talks. Mostly around midnight at the party trying to make some unsuspecting girl fall for a hard-to-follow "intellectual" talk. We never thought it would work much better on aged men.
Wow, I cannot pick which of those two hairstyles will I try first.

Also, I do not think "uplifting" applies to that presentation. It is quite "downfalling". Plural.
More uplifting.... :)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i2XUrySbdUE&t=442s

And trust me Peterson is very uplifting.... Try his bible series....

My best to you and stay safe....


This is the first time I have heard of Jordan Peterson and I wish him well in his recovery. At the same time, I feel it may be more uplifting to follow Kim Kardashian on youtube than him.
Back to tangible world.

My experience with mail has been great. Five days door-to-door from deep in the Europe to slightly less deep in the U.S.A. (regular mail, not FedEx, UPS, etc.). Two to three days from anywhere in the U.S.A. to U.S.A. Some things arrived sooner than expected. Maybe I have just been lucky over the past couple of months.
His Bible series contains much of his intuition and observations.... But i dont have  listened it very much  3 episodes only.... I suggest you to listen to his series about his book.... the series of videos has the same title: maps of meanings....

I love the guy, he is sensible and the prey of no ideologue....He is also a real concrete clinician and that shows in his thinking....

My best to you with your new speakers....
I watched his whole series on the Bible stories https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f-wWBGo6a2w  together with hours and hours of his classroom lectures, debates, and interviews https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aMcjxSThD54  and read his 12 Rules for Life https://www.amazon.com/12-Rules-Life-Antidote-Chaos/dp/0345816021 and read a few excerpts from Maps of Meaning, but have not felt quite up to tackling that one. Yet. 


mahgister, You read Maps of Meaning?? Respect!
A great book, not for the general public, more a course in psychology with his own perspective... Very good....

In a nutshell, society comes from the necessity to survive in cooperation, all religions and societies are founded on a division of the world, the known versus the unknown, and the way the borders complex workings plays in the dynamic between these 2 poles ; the order and the virtual chaos on the verge to enter.....

brownsfan- @millercarbon, I hope you did not mistake my comment as having been directed at you.   It wasn't!

Yes, I see that now. Appreciate your setting me straight on that.
Thanks!
                   

mahgister, You read Maps of Meaning?? Respect!
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In the UK, as in Canada, horrific murderers are given ridiculously short sentences...even for multiple murders. That is why compared many other countries we have a higher incarceration rate. We punish criminals and keep them in jail longer. We don't execute too many, but we do keep them in jail longer for serious offenses. 
I live in UK one thing we do have (I so feel) is a fairer Criminal justice system in the courts in comparison with the Criminal justice system in USA.  I remember an article written before the OJ Simpson trial which looked at the status of lawyers involved on the Prosecution side and the status of lawyers involved in the Defence team of OJ Simpson and concluded that because OJ Simpson has the more experienced and better lawyers, he will probably be acquitted.  In UK we also have good and better lawyers, but we do not have situations where a case is decided on the capability of lawyers; it would make a mockery of the justice system, cases are decided on the cases itself, the evidence given and so forth...
Trust is definitely the glue that holds our society and economy together.  In my experience, fortunately most of the people I interact with are "trustworthy", not all, but most seem to be.

With regard for buying and selling on this site, whenever someone reaches out to me about purchasing an item I have for sale, I will only deal with them if they make an offer thru the site, not with the email exchange, that way if they jerk me around, I can report them to Audiogon.  I had a guy go back and forth with me on the purchase of an SACD player, we came to terms on the price and when he arrived at my door he said on the drive he decided to offer me $600 less than we agreed to.  To bad he wasted his time on that 90 minute drive to and 90 minute drive from my house.  I don't deal with people like that.
@millercarbon, I hope you did not mistake my comment as having been directed at you.   It wasn't!
..forgive me Lord but I have sinned....can’t stop coveting those big mbl speakers and a suitable room to put them in!!!!!

Luckily my neighbors don’t have that either.
mahgister, 

We are all sinners no doubt, but personally, I am willing to give you a pass!

Cheers!
P.S.: coveting your neighbor’s hifi is right out!!!
Even in my heavenly state actual audio room system, i covet some other system....

i am a sinner, a fool, and a..... I am without words.....

Even if my system is perfect for me now, after these 2 years experiments, i dream about the Berning zotl amplifier of my neighbour...

I think this hobby is sometimes frustrating even for those who are happy....They are not enough happy...
I remember the first bottle of wine i drink, i tought i will be happier with a second one.... :)

:)
Maybe but the Romans didn’t turn out so well in the end either. Nor the barbarians.

The book is still open for us all these days but its not looking good in many parts from a ten commandments perspective.....we’ll see!
mapman,

’Whatever happened to taking the high road?’


Whilst the ancient Greeks were taking the high road, the Romans took the short cuts - and we know what happened.

Still, it’s not entirely clear just who the eventual long term winners were.

Audiophiles I’m guessing, are likely to be more Greek than Roman.
millercarbon i consider all people here, particularly those partaking others opinions friends, i must confess that i like to argue, but i try the best i can no to be too sarcastic, too personal, or not so friendly...

I confess also being more sensible than some, and a bit too much reactive or impetuous...  :)



«Life is short, hate is long but not longer, joy is eternal....» -Groucho Marx
mahgister, it helps to keep in mind a lot of the criticism is coming from people with a tenuous connection with reality... two guys make stuff up about it, attack me personally, and one even ignores actual ad hominems directed at me and accuses me of being the one resorting to ad hominems. Unreal.....

If that’s how ill-equipped they are to understand clear concise prose imagine how they must struggle with your ideas. .... But to get complex and hard to express ideas it helps to be capable of having ideas and thinking about things. This rules them out....

Most of what we’re doing is frankly beyond them. Might be literally truly beyond them, as in no matter what they never will get it. Or might be beyond them merely by virtue of being too physically or mentally lazy to get up off the comfortable couch and try. Either way they’re not getting it.

.....To do what we do takes imagination, creativity, intelligence, and perseverance. It takes initiative. Qualities they lack.....Talk is all they have. ..... But who knows, trashing others may be the one thing that gives their lives meaning.

Someone better be careful about that "false witness" thing. That’s a lot of trash talking!

Whatever happened to taking the high road?




"Do unto others as you would have them do unto you".
Very well said.... That dont contradict any of my past posts here then i concur....

By the way these words are for me the objective foundational experience of moral imagination , and moral imagination is the only faculty or organ needed by humanity to go trough next millenium....

The moral imagination part is past the " i dont cheat you because i dont want to be cheat by you " to the " How can i love you more and in a better way? "

The future is less determined by technology than by moral imagination...

I read a novel of S-F 45 years ago and in it the writer was describing many advanced civilizations, all more advanced and powerful than the others, except the last and the more advanced, no visible technology, and pure moral imagination....

Olaf Stapledon "Last men and first men "
Most people would probably agree with The Ten Commandments for guiding principles. Those are pretty fundamental but a very good foundation to adhere by. Hence, their longevity. If you can’t, at least to some practical degree, things usually head south.

After that, things get even tougher.

To summarize:

The Ten Commandments (Exodus 20:2-17 NKJV)1“I am the Lord your God, who brought you out of the land of Egypt, out of the house of bondage. You shall have no other gods before Me.2“You shall not make for yourself a carved image, or any likeness of anything that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth; you shall not bow down to them nor serve them. For I, the Lord your God, am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers on the children to the third and fourth generations of those who hate Me, but showing mercy to thousands, to those who love Me and keep My Commandments.3“You shall not take the name of the Lord your God in vain, for the Lord will not hold him guiltless who takes His name in vain.4“Remember the Sabbath day, to keep it holy. Six days you shall labor and do all your work, but the seventh day is the Sabbath of the Lord your God. In it you shall do no work: you, nor your son, nor your daughter, nor your male servant, nor your female servant, nor your cattle, nor your stranger who is within your gates. For in six days the Lord made the heavens and the earth, the sea, and all that is in them, and rested the seventh day. Therefore the Lord blessed the Sabbath day and hallowed it.5“Honor your father and your mother, that your days may be long upon the land which the Lord your God is giving you.6“You shall not murder.7“You shall not commit adultery.8“You shall not steal.9“You shall not bear false witness against your neighbor.10“You shall not covet your neighbor’s house; you shall not covet your neighbor’s wife, nor his male servant, nor his female servant, nor his ox, nor his donkey, nor anything that is your neighbor’s.”

P.S.: coveting your neighbor’s hifi is right out!!!
mahgister, it helps to keep in mind a lot of the criticism is coming from people with a tenuous connection with reality. Like my post, there's zero personal attacks in it yet two guys make stuff up about it, attack me personally, and one even ignores actual ad hominems directed at me and accuses me of being the one resorting to ad hominems. Unreal.

If that's how ill-equipped they are to understand clear concise prose imagine how they must struggle with your ideas. Poetry is beautiful because of the complex of inexpressible feelings and ideas it digs up. But to get complex and hard to express ideas it helps to be capable of having ideas and thinking about things. This rules them out, and so of course they get frustrated.

Most of what we're doing is frankly beyond them. Might be literally truly beyond them, as in no matter what they never will get it. Or might be beyond them merely by virtue of being too physically or mentally lazy to get up off the comfortable couch and try. Either way they're not getting it.

So don't let them get to you. To do what we do takes imagination, creativity, intelligence, and perseverance. It takes initiative. Qualities they lack. You are Michael Jordan, effortlessly performing layups. Don't be surprised or get upset when they start talking trash. Talk is all they have. Let em have their fun. We have our music. But who knows, trashing others may be the one thing that gives their lives meaning.
@mahgister, 

'Man is an eternal soul in a sea of happiness, but he forget it easily especially when he hurt himself with his bowl of soup...

I dont want to be your bowl of soup...'


Most of us are in someone's else's bowl of soup. At least some of the time. 

It still doesn't get us any nearer to understanding this nebulous notion of truth and ethics. 

Maybe the best we can do is to recall that old adage, 

"Do unto others as you would have them do unto you".

It could even work, it might just, but we'd all have to follow it, not just some of us.


cd318
I’m also hoping that Mahgister doesn’t chip in to point out that we’re all nothing more than a collection of disparate atoms held vicariously in a magnetic space field.
If you read my post you will know that i am more a poet than a scientist, even if i had read more science books than some...

I NEVER post words implying some reductionist attitude, like you suggest i has did or will do...

Then dont attack me by false affirmation about me....

By the way anything i say about audio is always the results of my homemade low cost many experiments...



And finally man is not: "only a collection of dispate atoms at all vicariously held in a nagnetic space field"....Bad science is not for me sorry....

Man is an eternal soul in a sea of happiness, but he forget it easily especially when he hurt himself with his bowl of soup...

I dont want to be your bowl of soup...

My best to you...

:)
mijostyn,

The Tekton idea of using multiple tweeters to cover the entire midrange (and up) seems great in theory because of the reduced mass for the equivalent surface area of a conventional midrange unit.

Are they a box that sounds like an electrostatic, without the drawbacks?

Apparently they’re not unique. A company in Germany (Concrete Audio acc to 6moons) has a model with 41 tweeters. Intriguingly, the original patent is held by the Fraunhofer Institute.

So what’s going on here? What’s the drawback? What’s the truth? Why is it so difficult to establish?

Is it simply a human construct relative to the time and location of its conception?  Should we ask Bill Clinton?

I’m also hoping that Mahgister doesn’t chip in to point out that we’re all nothing more than a collection of disparate atoms held vicariously in a magnetic space field.

It might be true, but I can’t see how it helps.

https://6moons.com/audioreview_articles/tekton2/
I sell MAHL tweeters that I manufacture on EBay and then Klipsch speakers, primarily the pro side of things that I have rebuilt and refurbished on Craigslist. I have had hardly any trouble with the Klipsch owners/buyers and these two venues. I have more trouble with post office or FEDEX damage than customers.

  I have no idea what it would be like to sell somewhere like Audiogon but with as many crazy things as are sold here I would expect crazy buyers and trouble over time too. Fraud happens on Craigslist but is easy to spot and you just don't open the door to trouble you will do fine.
Millercarbon likes Tekton?? Let's see...How many cheap tweeters can I stuff in a box?
Shilling for Tekton  ??   I have to wonder what that's all about, I don't shill for anybody......And I guess if my parents were rich and I could spend some time in college I might know more about sociology and since I was born in Washington, D.C. I should know more about politics than most, but I didn't learn much, so it has been me and working class people in my education of people.......A little money may have made the difference, but I didn't have any and nobody to give me any..........So I'm not sure your kind of wisdom is what I need.........And maybe this isn't about me anyway.......
Millercarbon, have you noticed that those who can't win an argument on the merits of a position resort to ad hominem?
millercarbon...that's the most ridiculous thing I have heard in a long time. You obviously are not a student of sociology or political theory. You seem to know a little bit about electronics. To save yourself the embarrassment of making incredibly ill-informed statements on topics of which you know nothing, perhaps you should stick to shilling for Tekton.
cd318 said one very important word, tribe. Humans evolved by killing each other. There was no other balance that could exist in nature. No other animal could compete with us. Thus we became clannish. Power in numbers. Family became tribe became town and so forth. We learned to trust those in our tribe. England was made up of a rather homogeneous group of people with a high degree of trust.  As they were invaded by different races with significant cultural differences the degree of trust eroded. The US has always been heterogeneous and many groups did not receive fair treatment to put it politely. We are slowly coming to grips with this but it takes generations. Socrates said, "Give me a boy until he is seven and he is mine." Some of us, particularly young males always seem to be in a hurry. They bang their heads against the wall for several years, wind up with a family and join the rest of us. 
This country will never go socialist. There is that great silent majority. 

Autospec, sorry to hear about your difficulties. This is why you never send equipment until you are paid. Using an intermediary like PayPal is always a good idea. I have always done business in person. There is always a higher degree of confidence when you shake hands. Some people carry their dreams a little too far and start to barter for an item they really can't afford then become embarrassed to admit it. It may be frustrating but you have not lost anything other than time.

Humans are a royal PITA. 75% of the email you receive is somebody trying to scam you. They will lie, cheat and steel. Why? Survival of course. That is what nature is all about isn't it? If you can't do it honestly then you find other ways. This is primitive human behavior. We counter it by teaching our children to survive honestly. Obvious there are sectors of our society that are failing at this. We need to figure out a way to help them that they find acceptable.  

Lets get back to Hi Fi. I just put on the back side of Santana's second album. "Get Ready!
I look at it this way, Whether here or on other used equipment sites, the site is only as good as the integrity of the people that use it. Therefore I have a responsibility to be fair in all transactions. If I expect fairness then I have to be fair. If everyone adhered to that value there wouldn't be any problems.
Miller
After reading Steven Covey's book The 7 Habits of Highly Effective People and Jordan Peterson's book 12 Rules For Life, I can state unequivocally that I will never read another self help book from some pompous arse. If you listen to Peterson talk he will continually say he has studied a subject for years and years. He wouldn't debate Richard Wolff on Marxism. Bogus….
The majority of the people on Audiogon are wonderful. This is why I choose to do business here. I had a guy send me a $1000.00 deposit on a set of speakers once. He changed his mind two weeks later. I cheerfully refunded his money.
  I consider an item sold only after, it arrives intact to the buyer AND he/she is happy and has posted positive feedback. Even then, with PayPal, the buyer has options to return the item. It's best to not sweat the small percentage of unethical people who exist everywhere. Chances are if the OP goes over the conversation (with the buyer) in his mind, he'll pick up on one or two red flags. Joe
I will add something about my seller and buyer experience.... The last 6 months has been terrible, not because dishonesty on either part, myself or others, but because the worlwide disruptions by postal offices around the world...

The delays were so great that i has been in the obligation to reimbourse some asking impatient customers.... Tenth times mores problems and more than that probably than in normal times... I can live with that tough... But it was pain in the ass like buyer or seller and i was at the 2 end of the sticks...But i am patient and i wait knowing how it is...

Be patient all of you, most of the times parcels will make it through your doors...


« Living is all about convincing yourself, acting is convincing others, you can fake the second not the first»- Groucho Marx

« Being dishonest is being like an ostrich with his head buried in sand, you will fool some to play the same game but at the end you will fool the only one that matters, yourself» - attributed to Bernie Madoff by Groucho Marx

« George Burns has stolen the cigars from Groucho» -Harpo Marx

:)
"Acting is all about honesty. If you can fake that, you've got it made."
George Burns

My grain of salt for the benefit of all and my own experience like seller and buyer...

I sold 13,000 books and cd these last years, i  have ordered near 2 thousand one...

For the selling part the problematic orders was near between 0 .3% or 0.4 %
For my ordering part the % is perhaps a little over near 0.8%... Then double problems ... :)
But anyway a very low number of cases ...

I was active on the 3 main sellers in the world...

Then i was lucky, but sometimes we make also our luck:

The service, and communication i gave was first class... And more....Only the wrapping of package we take the care to make, made amazon package look like trash...

For myself i has ordered near 2 thousand books and cd in the last 3 years...With almost the same success...

Is trust a fact of human existence nowadays?
Yes...

Why?
Without trust no human lives are worth to be lived...

Those who think the contrary are immature, unhealthy or stupid, or armed survivalists, pick the one diagnostic that fit the case...

Trust and cooperation are one, if not the only one event that makes human life a great journey....

By the way in this world i dont want to be the last man standing.... :)

Best regards....


Remark : My audio purchase or order are very small, perhaps 40 orders all in all in the last 7 years, mainly purchase with few sellings... No problem at all in any way.....