Why the cost increase?


I went to buy materials for a speaker project. I also priced some T-111 siding on 8" centers, 5/8 thick, Ship lap.
I hadn’t picked up any sheets or anything in over 18 months.

48" x 96 x 5/8 wood siding was 19-26.00 and on sale 15-20.00 per sheet, NOW 74-84.00 per sheet.

MDF 3/4" 48 x 96" if you can find it. 45-55.00 per sheet it was 22.00 to 27.00 per sheet.

2x4x8 DF stud grade 1.99-3.00 per. Now 4-6.00 per stud,

There is no shortage but there sure is a LOT of price gouging. NOTHING changed. Just the price..

The quality is worse. The workers aren’t paid worth a crap...Why the increase?

I’m getting ready to finish my home out. WOW.. I might have to rethink this a bit..

The price all most tripled in 12-18 months.. This kind of stuff is NOT cool at ALL.

Just my opinion of course. Any projects you’re doing get put on hold or STOPED?

YES I’m very frugal. Money never came easy, and it leaves the same way..

oldhvymec
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Not too far… About 3 months ago I order a pair of Legacy speakers,  At that moment I ask about the prices in the future ( a few months, like my birthday in October or end of the year) I was interested in the surrounds speakers.  I said, we already update our prices May 31 st.  Regular price was $3000.00.  After a few days not even a week, just changed to $4950.00. I called right away and He said, nothing I can do.  I tried different place, I found the old price, placerd the order, they took my money, and after 3-4 days they cancel the transaction.  Saying they don’t have the product at that moment.   
Man people toss around trillions like it no big thing. If I started counting out loud I  couldn’t get to a billion before the end of my life.

Ah what the heck. They just reinstated a fire chiefs pension in Danville CA to over 20,500.00 per month. They had reduced it to 14,000.00 because of the way he stacked his last years.

One court representing the actual workers sued to have it reduced (his co workers) and won in a lower court. Only to be overturned in a higher court with back pay to the tune of 1.5 million dollars. The real kicker his retirement is greater than the salary he made when he was working full time.. PRISON!!! and whoever supports this type of thieving from the people.. Absolutely NUT

In Danville CA. The worst thing to ever happen was the hills would catch fire and that would wedged in the cattle. They new where to go in the basins where there was no grass..

250,000.00 a YEAR plus benefits.. For a fire chief in a COW TOWN converted to yippyville when the sprawl started.. When I was a kid You couldn’t give that land away.. 2 million an acre now in some places.. 20,000,000. For a 5 acre hobby farm..

BROKE doesn’t even get close to what’s wrong it’s not REDS or the BLUES.. IT’S BOTH.. No concept of DEBT.. NONE.. ZERO... They ALL spend like there is no consequence.

Raise the debt Ceiling.. NO LOWER IT NOW. Spend less than what you bring in.. Period. AND put people like this idiot who screwed EVERYONE he could, everyway he could, in a GD prison, forever along with the Judge and the lawyers that overturned the lower court decision.

Every month the spending exceeds the GDP, how is that ok? They're raising the limit. Not reducing the spending and paying OFF the interest.  All the while skimming the interest off SS for anything BUT SS and spending it like it has any place in the hands of people, who REFUSE to pay and fund retirement plans and reduce the nutso out of control spending OUT of our country alone..

Didn’t the Athenians try their leaders after their terms in office.. After all it was the cradle of Democracy..

If I had my way this type of stealing would get the worst of punishments.

The reduction in retirement payments of 6,000.00 a month to THIS fire chief is greater than the combined SS of me and my wife. His REDUCTION. for god sakes! 30-35 MAX working years.. MAX

We worked almost 90 years between the 2 of us paying social security. Glo and Me.. 90 F*&^ing years to read this CRAP.. about a THIEF Fire chief and a broken system letting him get away with it..

Regards
I had to turn on the O2 machine after that one.. Bogart the O2 machine.. LOL.

51 hours in the hospital.. 81,000.00 dollars.. Last year at this time I got the bill.. AFTER coming home and having 16 more heart attacks behind a hard clot they missed.. 12k more BTW. ALL behind a bruised thigh..

I’ll bet money it’s 110k now. Not a worker ONE getting paid a dime more..

My insurance paid all but 117.00 of a 7k ride to the hospital. Sure great people though.. God sent those Nurses, X-Ray techs and Doctors. The X-Ray Tech found the clot, that was missed.. Sharp cookie..

Regards
In any other advanced nation (and there are MANY), you wouldn’t have paid a dime more than what you’d pay through your taxes and some small copay for all the treatment you needed, if that.

Check out Moore’s old documentary, Sicko and your blood pressure will rise enough to get you readmitted. In one scene, a guy cut off his ring and middle finger with a table saw. $60,000 to reattach his middle finger and $12,000 for his ring finger. He chose his ring finger.

Moore then asked another doctor (I believe it was either in Canada or Germany) how much they would charge. The look on the doctor’s face was priceless. Both fingers would be reattached and cost the man nothing since he’s already been paying into the system.

It’s all a matter of priorities as to how you’re going to do things. Nothing more. It’s just that here, stateside, there are those who don’t want them to get any coverage. It goes all the way back to the Civil War.

All the best,
Nonoise
Healthy people needing to pay extra for the obese, people who smoke, people who don't take care of themselves, etc.

Waiting forever to get a procedure done, waiting forever an emergency room, reaching a certain age to where you're no longer needed in the community so your medical procedures aren't as important as others.

There's no competition for lowest prices in the healthcare industry so everyone pays an exorbitant amount.

Oh yeah, sign me up.

And Moore is a Leftist nutjob, btw.
That leftist nut job had all the problems you just enumerated solved by showing the absurdities of our present medical system, designed to enrich a few at the expense of the many.

By the way, your comment on the aged is absurd and that statement about competition in the healthcare industry is just why it’s not working, or haven’t you been paying attention?

No one decides, one day, to get cancer and go out and see what his health care payments can buy at the health care competition rally. It’s not like buying your stereo. It’s a necessity. Economies of scale would expect one to pool resources and have the buying power to force down health care costs, like one would in any capitalist endeavor.

Did you notice how socialism and capitalism worked so well together in that scenario? Other, advanced countries have been doing it for over half a century and are all the better for it. We could too, if only people would not cling to those absurd zombie notions that refuse to die.

All the best,
Nonoise
SS was never intended to be a retirement plan. It was and still is a tax on today’s workforce to provide a safety net for yesterday’s workforce. 

Regarding the cost of healthcare, hard to argue the merits of a basic universal healthcare system for everyone. We can call it TrumpCare as Ive heard the former reality TV guy enjoys his name in lights.
You really think a universal health care system is a good idea, the government never runs anything right. Healthcare would not be free, it would probably cost even more than it does now.
We are all paying for universal healthcare now! Volunteer at a public hospital and see for yourself. The taxpayer already pays for indigent care.
Health care in this country and the health insurance industry is a sick joke no pun intended. Universal healthcare would be a small step in the right direction of giving every US citizen more dignity and opportunity.
Good lord health care cost just like taxes, Highest in the world. 320 million people @ 5 times the cost of any other country.. And you would think an Advil was a dime bag of heroin. And any pain killer was made by the devil. They wonder why people are dying in groves behind alcohol abuse.. and fentanyl ODs BUT they are scared to death to prescribe because of LAW SUITS and drug abuse..

People that will abuse the use of drugs is no different that the guy that is a friggin gambler, or any other addict.  It's not a doctors job to enforce the law, but help understand the reason for the use and abuse of drugs and alcohol and treat the underlying symptoms or repair what's causing the pain.. 

The number one reason for suicide and drug overdoses, is NON treatment by doctors today for pain.. People just get tired of asking for help.. 30-40 times in my life, I've seen old labors just give up behind pain and I get a phone call...

It always flip flops when Vets, Cops, and fire fighters start dropping like flies behind alcohol abuse, when they should have been on some type of pain management and lived a fairly normal life with pain maintenance and not yo yo the patients on and off until they finally go nuts..

Look a JFK, Theodore Roosevelt or the drunken drug abusing pair Clinton and Bush Junior.. War on drugs my A$$ it is still a war on the people of the USA.. What a bunch of cowards laws..

You're 18 and can go to WAR.. and get something blown OFF, here's two Tylenol call me in the morning pay the receptionist on the way OUT.. 

That's a 100.00 for a placebo talk and they actually want to get paid..

Dentist.. don't get me going..  A 3 d printer can make anything for under 300.00 bucks.. 40k for 500.00 max in parts and 2-4 hours at the most from the dentist and someone screwing in anchors.. I caught one dentist charging for gold crowns that were not gold at all. 49.00 plated crowns he was charging 1100.00 for and the RC was another 600.00. 20 minutes tops for a 3 or 4 root root canal..

His accountant was arrested for embezzlement, stealing patients checks from insurance companies that were signed over.. Tried to nick me for 5K a SECOND time behind his shifty accountant. NOPE!!

I just wanted to build a pair of SPEAKERS and FIX MY House.

Artichoke 2 for 5 dollars? Cherries 6 dollars for a bag of cherries.
BEEF, holy cow it's got to be a HOLY COW at those prices..

Regards
The only "problem" with universal health care is that it covers everyone and lots of people are simply against that idea. They don't want certain people to be covered and are willing to take a big hit on their own well being just for the sake of denying others a better life. 

Remember what LBJ said:
“If you can convince the lowest white man he’s better than the best colored man, he won’t notice you’re picking his pocket. Hell, give him somebody to look down on, and he’ll empty his pockets for you.”

That includes coming up with all manner of half baked reasons to justify their actions, beliefs and justifications.

All the best,
Nonoise
SS has a 3% overhead for administration cost. Private heath care insurance companies are 15-27% and they are paid to say NO, NOT fix the patient, BUT pocket the money and limit YOUR service. Just like the guy said above, pick a finger, sure can't afford both.. Total BS..

Middle man America always with their hands out, not HAND, HANDS. Only adding cost to deny treatment and make sure you use the cheapest drug on the market..

BUT Americans have been sold the line of CRAP from insurance companies.. TOTALLY worthless every one that was ever created.

Regards
Wait till you go out for a night of bowling to get Roofied, to be found 3 days later missing a kidney..  CHINA, not a good place to be housed by the state. South of the border ain't much better..

Yup the skin off your A$$ on some schmuck's face in Russia or something.. Shanghaied vacationing in the Cayman Islands or some where like that... :-) :-(

Regards
SS has a 3% overhead for administration cost. Private heath care insurance companies are 15-27% and they are paid to say NO, NOT fix the patient, BUT pocket the money and limit YOUR service.
That's it in a nutshell. All the countries that have some form of universal health care use some form of insurance but not for profit insurance to run things. Some feel the private sector can do it better but they are limited in the same manner as a well run public service. 

Everyone makes out, have pensions, cradle to the grave coverage, are paid better and have a higher quality of life with longer life expectancies. I could never find a downside to all of that.

Sure, it's not perfect, but it's a damn sight better than what we now have.

All the best,
Nonoise


Who knew substance abuse and alcoholism was the fault of the healthcare and insurance system? Additionally, whatever the admin overhead is for SSI and helath insurance companies its a moot point, they arent in the same business.
real meeting of the minds in here huh. lmao
Did you pay out of pocket to have it put back in the wrong place?


That is the problem, Insurance companies see their patrons not as patients but as business assets. Heathcare is not about anyone getting rich or poor. It's a necessity of life just like good water, and clean air. Some things should just be understood, in spite of them being used to control population growth on the down low.. 

We are at 7.9 billion people on this earth..  1960  3.031 billion

India 1.366 billion
China 1.398 billion
African Continent 1.26 billion
All of Eastern Europe 292.5 million
All of Western Europe196.850 million
Scandinavia 21. million
All of the Americas 1.002 billion

120 million people are born every year, 60 million die..

850 million are undernourished. Dad and his 4 girlfriends eats fine the 12 kids between them are starving to death. World hunger? Not really. HIV infects up to 1/4 of these starving countries population..

WHO feeds the world? North and South America...

When was the last time you ate reindeer? NEVER

When do you think any eastern European or Scandinavian country's population ate BEEF.. Yesterday...

Brazil's beef is 1/2 the cost of US beef. WHY? On the hoof US beef has doubled in price over the last 18 months on CA or Nevada cattle. (4 inoculations not the 7 or 11). Good beef. I quit eating it..
What is this fascination people have with wanting to federalize everything in this country? The founding fathers wanted LIMITED government. They saw what failed around the world and they had a different idea for this nation.
I just don’t understand why people want more government involvement and control in their lives.
With every step we take in that direction, it is one step closer to socialism/communism.

Like someone said earlier, the government can’t run anything right.

We need to preserve our freedoms and liberties. Preserve every individual’s independence and not let our constitutional rights be taken from us or else that document will be a relic in a museum one day, showing kids what was once the law of the land generations ago.
@nonoise i dunno man. if you're asking me what i think about healthcare, my answer is "in america it's a nightmare unless you're rich. a basic level of care should be free for everybody, but it's not and that sucks." but i don't think we're going to solve all the worlds problems by arguing about them on a stereo forum. i was under the impression this thread would be about what everyone thinks of gear prices going up, not a drunk uncles facebook showdown
We are also FREE in Canada, or must i say WE WERE, some years ago, in spite of the last 2 idiots who ran the country, one with a rightist ideology, Harper, and the other, not less worst, with a leftist ideology,Trudeau...

For universal health care system, it is beyond my understanding that some people dont understand that health care are not there to create profits....It is beyond my understanding that people let the pharmaceutical globalist companies RUNNING the show in this pandemic...
It is beyond me but i know very well why people think that way....They think it is normal and right because they side with an ideology, right or left, like "objectivist" and "subjectivist", this ideology they pick for themselves in accord with their "taste" give them the political solutions ready made, like in audio matters by the way in his marketing practices......

Reading and studying is easy but also hard work, people prefer to be afraid and pointing fingers to a ready made scapegoat and let the hard books alone on the shelves and pick the "leftist" or "rightist" ideology without understanding how they ALWAYS be played now by globalist and transhumanist powers controlling the agendas....

I will add nothing, it is like in audio matters....Forget the marketing, use your hand and brain like our OP and enjoy high level S.Q. at low cost.... For sure we are though at the beginning only of an inflated or/and deflated economical crisis in the waiting, proportionate to our voluntary ignorance....Even in canada cherries price are rising....Wood price also and dont wait for the next year it will be worst...


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Thanks tvad...

This seems to be a very good novel indeed...

And yes i live in quebec city.....In Huron tribes past territories.... 😊
These are the most uninformative AUDIO forum responses ever !
Building material prices !
Not Healthcare , Not government spending , Not political ideologies .

Think Covid , worker shortage , driver shortage , import taxes ,
forest fires , material shotages .

Think Covid , worker shortage , driver shortage , import taxes ,
forest fires , material shotages .


Why do we have a worker shortage, and driver shortage? Where did all these workers and drivers go?
@td_dayton, I understand where you're coming from but these topics have a way of popping up, uninvited, as a way to get weird, erroneous and dangerous ideas and memes out there in the public sphere and I like to knock them down when I can. Then, these types of discussions grow.

Like you say, everything is not left or right, fascist or liberal, but one side needs an enemy, being conditioned like Pavlov's dog to believe, behave and react to anything that threatens it's mind hive mentality.

We're living in dangerous times and to blithely go about one's business or hobby is what's called "whistling past the graveyard." I'm sure that music they played when the Titanic went down kept a lot of peoples minds off their fate.

All the best,
Nonoise






Who knew substance abuse and alcoholism was the fault of the healthcare and insurance system?

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A long time ago I found out that 1/2 the people realize they MAY have the propensity and proclivity towards obsessive, compulsive behavior.

The other half is in 100% denial.

It’s not a matter of fault it’s a matter of FACT..

A gambler, a junkie, a travel holic or a drunk, not one bit of difference..

The question is are they aware of their OCD tendencies or are they just practicing ADDICTS? One is aware, one is in denial, BOTH need help.. Which cost less in the long run and has a much better outcome on your fellow man?

I surmise from personal experience, friendly intervention BEFORE medical intervention CAN prevent the PENAL institutions.

AS a seemingly aware individual with the country and it’s citizens in mind, which would be the better way? Friendly medical intervention, OR PENAL incarceration..

After incarceration there is only one step left. DEATH or make a choice.

One is the "American Way" the other is the "Failure of" The American Way.. Still the highest population in the western world of people in prison.

Which is 75% privatized..

50% of the people in jails are there behind VICE.

Adults don’t need a government telling them what they can and can’t do either. The right thing to do is REGULATE an tax VICE to pay for it’s regulation and medical services. Not a 50% sin tax a 2-3% CODB tax.

Super high taxes lead to one thing.. People trying to avoid them...

Thieves they let out of jail, perverts and rapist get parole and murders serve "from time served", to life.

Sounds like the Danville Fire Chief story.. How broke is that? The fireman’s pension fund sued him, what’s that saying? And he’s NOT in JAIL? But a Hooker is?

Broke?.. I think so.. Can it be fixed? Tomorrow NEVER comes.. Today is a good day to start..

WAY past time to feed the chickens..

I’ll check prices today and quality of materials. Fuel went down .20 cents a gallon. 4.50 per for regular. Now lumber.. paint is up 30% and some in limited supplies, like Rhino Coat..

Regards
"...fascist or liberal."
You're a piece of work.
You've just shown that you are that "piece of work" by cherry picking what I said on the post directly before you, tying to imply that I think there's only two choices, which I didn't.

You really are out of your element, aren't you?

All the best,
Nonoise


If you want home-made speakers why not try the Moabs?

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NO!

I want my speakers, mine, mine, mine,

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PjB9jlDvUNM

I just dug out a pair of Lattice neo 8 LS speakers. They’re made from 3/4" 30 year cured apitong. That was quite the endeavor like joining steel but I couldn’t weld it.. I gotta post those pics They are suppose to set in a sand pit, metal clamp base, can change the camber, and caster.. pretty cool. LOUD like "holy cow" loud and Clear...

Regards
"Everything is not left or right, fascist or liberal,...".
The way you worded it, you were making a comparison.
"Everything is not left or right, fascist or liberal,...".
The way you worded it, you were making a comparison.
The way you reason goes a long way towards demonstrating how you could come up with this kind of explanation.

And I see my post explaining how the infrastructure bills are not going to add to the debt due to its relatively small proportion to the GDP and how the debt ceiling works and how the right are going to exploit it with lies has been deleted. It violated none of the criteria for removal. 

We've got some really dangerous people lurking here with an agenda other than audio.

All the best,
Nonoise

We've got some really dangerous people lurking here with an agenda other than audio.


Why would you say that? Just because people don't agree with you they are dangerous and have an agenda.
When they use an audio site to post lies and inflame dissension points to motivation. Why would they continually do that? Why would they censor those who speak up and point out their fallacies?

There are plenty of platforms out there besides an audio site where they can feel right at home. They should try GETTR (set up by Rump's press secretary) for those that support right wing platforms.

There's also Twitter and Farcebook and all manner of sites where they can glad-hand each other.

All the best,
Nonoise

@mahgister,

A great post, with much to consider.

"For universal health care system, it is beyond my understanding that some people dont understand that health care are not there to create profits....It is beyond my understanding that people let the pharmaceutical globalist companies RUNNING the show in this pandemic..."


Beyond mine too.

Especially questions such as why was not every virus lab in the world immediately closed down in the aftermath of the Wuhan lab leak?

Questions such as why do Bill Gates and Tony Fauci have financial links to the Wuhan lab?

Or why has this become all about Pfizer v J&J v AZ/Oxford v Sputnik v the rest in a cut throat stab in the back battle for the lion’s share of global vaccine profits?

Why isn’t this about pooling knowledge and coming up with a safe vaccine that genuinely offers 95%+ protection against all variations?



"Reading and studying is easy but also hard work, people prefer to be afraid and pointing fingers to a ready made scapegoat and let the hard books alone on the shelves and pick the "leftist" or "rightist" ideology without understanding how they ALWAYS be played now by globalist and transhumanist powers controlling the agendas...."


Another great point, namely why don’t people want to consider that there may be powers and forces operating at a level above national governments?

Powers that ALL politicians of all denominations must remain beholden to. Perhaps we might ask ourselves just how much power do the global banks and global pharmaceuticals really have over our elected representatives?



"I will add nothing, it is like in audio matters....Forget the marketing, use your hand and brain like our OP and enjoy high level S.Q. at low cost...."


Yes, this must be the best advice. When I was in my teens I had a great thirst for knowledge which I hoped would lead me to the truth one day.

So I read and read and yet came coming up against the same advice the and time again - ’Think for yourself’.

I hated hearing this because I knew I knew nothing and was desperate for every shortcut going, yet here I am some 40 years later and those words now sound more truer than ever.


Here’s George Harrison offering the same advice back in 1965.

https://youtu.be/F8hRX5tmq_s
There are plenty of platforms out there besides an audio site where they can feel right at home. They should try GETTR (set up by Rump's press secretary) for those that support right wing platforms.


There are plenty of platforms out there for the leftists as well, probably more than the right, seeing how social media just ban people on the right. A sitting president gets banned, but the leader of the Taliban can tweet.
Thank Master M, no one needs to ride the fence, no one needs to be left or right, BUT you sure should know, if there is not good ideas on both sided neither would have survived this long.

My fear is instead of looking at our similarities as citizens, we see our differences through the eyes of a party line.

Like Master M, I could give hoot about the boys and girls running around in DC claiming to represent the people.  It's the lobbyist they are beholding too that really pull the string or in some cases cut the strings with.  

In most countries backing the wrong pony can lead to an early political grave, Just ask Tony Blair. That country made him and his backers hang their heads in shame..

NOT here, we are just NOW pulling out of the same WAR that ruined his political career in 2007. 14 years later. 

The way they are pulling out takes me back to Carters debacle "Operation Eagle Claw".  Sure not the fault of brave men and women that supported and tried to carry out the rescue attempt. They paid with their RED WHITE and BLUE hearts..  Isn't it always the soldier and citizen that take the brunt of someone else's personal war.. BUSH JR..

How many were lost and maimed behind a BOLD FACED LIE.. The slipperiest president we EVER had President Dick Cheney.

Run a muck is the only term I can truly apply to the current state of THIS Union.. I'm just glad the lines are holding in 90% of our wonderful country and our northern neighbors..

Southern neighbors.. LOL just a little to ambitious for my liking.. Get in LINE... Fresh food, water and inoculation for your long journey BACK.. We'll call you when we need the labor, not the welfare cost increase..

Tools in hand, come on in, they came to work.. :-)

Regards
nonoise,
nonoise7,549 posts08-18-2021 1:07pm"When they use an audio site to post lies and inflame dissension points to motivation. Why would they continually do that? Why would they censor those who speak up and point out their fallacies?

There are plenty of platforms out there besides an audio site where they can feel right at home. They should try GETTR (set up by Rump's press secretary) for those that support right wing platforms.

There's also Twitter and Farcebook and all manner of sites where they can glad-hand each other."


I'm not taking either side, but isn't this what you are always doing? You take every given opportunity to get ragingly political, and it's very unpleasant, not to mention off-subject.
There are plenty of platforms out there for the leftists as well, probably more than the right, seeing how social media just ban people on the right. A sitting president gets banned, but the leader of the Taliban can tweet.
Yes there are but it's the right wing media sites that dominate the landscape. I, for one, post on one particular center/left site on YouTube but that's about it.

I only reply to those right wingers who post on this site. You don't see me having their posts removed but they sure as heck have mine deleted to save their hurt fee-fees. 

A sitting president was banned for continually lying and fomenting violence, just like the Taliban is now. Funny how the two complain about that. Maybe it's why those here are called Vanilla ISIS and the American Taliban because they have so much in common being fundamentalists.

Right now we have R. rep Boebert giving props to the Taliban and retired  Gen Mike Flynn asking his cult to pay attention to how the Taliban took over, saying next time to be as heavily armed as they are and maybe then they can take over this country. A lot of right wingers are posting on some of these sites praising the Taliban on how they achieved their goals and how they're not all that bad because they're anti Semitic and hate women as well. 

I'll stand up to these jackals any day of the week. How about you?

All the best,
Nonoise


Just caught your post, roxy45, after I composed and posted.
No, it's not the same thing. You, if anyone, should see the difference.


nonoise,
I guess that I just think that this is the wrong place. Political talk just spawns a lot of mental noise, and if you enjoy it, which I know that many people do, I think that’s fine, but this just isn’t the place.
I also wonder why you would say that I, if anyone should see the difference.
No hard feelings, just my opinion.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TiVhptVBns4

I’m not saying who is representing who in the little clip, but is anybody paying attention to ol Elmer?

He’s quit happy to blow the (big mouths) bill right off. He don’t care who he shoots, BUT he shot someone EVERY time. :-( maybe :-) I don’t know I have to think on that one..

There is a lot going on in that clip.. Master M, what do you think? :-)

Defective ACME shotgun shells, only thing I can figure.. LOL They just blow his BILL off..

"Despicable" Mercy... as he reattached his BILL.. Talking to the Rabbit not the guy that shot his dumb a$$

Kinda like what’s going on right here, Forest, Trees.. OH there is a tiger tank in the forest TOO.. (Elmer)

I say keep lookin' UP....

Regards
roxy45, 
I understand the frustration you feel as I too think this place should be an audio only place. I really don't care to know I'm discussing audio with horrible people but they keep posting nonsense to the point where I can't take it anymore. 

To be honest, I've thought of abandoning this place many, many months ago as it's gone to the dogs.

I only said that if anyone, you should see the difference meaning I took your post to be a kind of false equivalency in what I do in response to what they do. I wouldn't utter a word about politics if they'd just stick to audio. If I'm mistaken, I apologize.

Soon I'll be getting my next and hopefully last acquisition and I intend to go down periscope and not come back for some time. This place gives me the creeps.

All the best,
Nonoise


@invalid  and @roxy54  well said.

@nonoise   "right wing media sites dominate the landscape."
What planet do you live on?

I swear to Christ you've lost your freaking mind.
I wouldn't say you have a domination of the landscape when anything pro conservative is censored, demonetized or de-platformed.
Clear Channel (now iHeartRadio) owns 1,207 radio stations reaching 201 out of 287 markets and they decide what gets air time and it's not according to ratings and ad revenues. They run practically all the right wing shock jocks even when they lose money on it. That's called domination of a market.

Dissenting voices from the mainstream are stifled across the country. There are states where you cannot hear anything but right wing hate radio. One must go to satellite or the internet to get an honest broker to listen to.

Cable TV is another can-o-worms due to reach and variety they offer so that's another story. The one thing you have to understand is you are not what I'd call a conservative. The only platforms being censored, demonetized and/or de-platformed are the ones spewing hate, promoting violence, and lying their pants off, which seems to be the ones you're supportive of which is why I say there's no way in heck you're a true conservative.

You're just occupying the space vacated by the real conservatives who refused to go along any more with the madness. Real conservatives are still there warning us of what's to come. They happen to still love our country.

All the best,
Nonoise