Why so many angry audiophiles?

I suppose in practical terms, it is just bad internet manners.  We all get angry and post at times, but maybe we can just try to not respond to the worst offenders.  Maybe they'll get tired of talking to themselves and try to be a little more civil.

Why so many angry audiophiles?
Sounds like kanjit 😂😂😂

I can't help seeing Red every time I view MillerCarbon's system pics.

DeKay

Years ago, I was at a Dodgers game with a good friend.  The pitcher threw a curve ball.  We immediately began to argue:  "What??  How could you POSSIBLY throw a curve in ..."  "Wait; you HAVE to throw an off-speed ..."   This was amusing for about 30 seconds.  Then we looked at each other.   End of argument.   We enjoyed the rest of the game.   (If we hadn't been face-to-face, I imagine we'd still be reviling each other.)

Yes, it's all about perspective. Thanks to mapman for initiating this thread.

I discuss passionnately without hating anybody tough...I appreciate the differences between people like treasures...

The only thing i dont accept easily is the attack on one person or against a group of people all treated the same....

Attacking an idea no problem tough... 😊 I like arguing IF there is a search for truth behind, it is easy to spot if someone can admit his own error or not and never...



Thanks mapman for this wise thread and for remembering us of the ultimate truth...

My best to you and to all....

Since I was in my early teens,  music has been the source of so much enjoyment for me.  It eases pain, sorrow, stress and even anger.  I can't imagine being without  it.  

I imagine it's the on-line thing.  But let's take a poll:   we've all gone to a friend's house to listen to their system.   And most of us say, "That sounds great!" no matter what we think.    SO:   how many here in that situation have given their friend sh*t or called them names because, say, they have lamp cord for speaker wire, or they just invested in an $8K power cord, use cd's rather than vinyl or have their speakers positioned incorrectly?

Sometimes people leave their sense of humor at the door and good humor is key to being relaxed and in good mood. I love talking about audio and no matter what someone's opinion is it never makes me angry. Certain of our members seem to use any opportunity to launch some non-audio related grievances, politics, or a belittling attitude. It needs to stop and I think we can all do a better job of policing ourselves.

patrickdowns152 posts01-11-2021 11:43amAmen. Social media seems to bring out the worst in some people, who become keyboard warriors. I see it everywhere. "If you don't have something good to say..."
I love a good debate, and often there is no one right answer. I love learning from others, but some seem to want to defend their views and choices like they're rabid dogs. Tiring.



I second that Amen !!!!

You’re also a Purist. 👍

Not me i am the MAGICO man and i love it.

It’s true that online seems to be the place where people tend to release anger. I am guilty of that from time to time. In person I’ve never had a negative experience interacting with others that share the same interest as I in music and good sound. No need to agree on what’s best. So many tasty flavors of sound!

It's an intense hobby - what do you expect?

Well said Mapman. Couldn't agree more.

Though I am in reasonably good heath for my age I'm also reasonably fat. Gotta do a little less listening and a little more running.

We lost our way ? It is hard to lose what you don't have. Yet. We try to find it. Those angry audiophiles try that too, in their own way. Let's be nice to them, it is difficult, I know.

Here here.
Playing a Diane Krall surround SACD mastered by Doug Sax from the public library makes me happy.
On an AVR.
Hardee har har.
I can always play the stereo rip on the big rig.

Enjoy the musical journey folks.

I think that this forum would be much more attractive if we could hide the posts we don’t wanna see or smell like on fb.

+1 for mapman. All the audiophiles I have personally met have been fun interesting people. We might disagree on some subjects such as tubes versus solid state or vinyl versus digital but the goal has always been to get the best musical playback possible. Online unfortunately,  I do see a lot of anger which may partially be a result of these stressful times. Over the years I have been able to put together a wonderful stereo system that is better musically than anything I  thought possible 20 or 30 years ago. When I need to unwind nothing is better than kicking back with a good fortified beverage and playing some music.

but I just can't build up the requisite amount of indignation

LOL. Never argue with idiots ... you have to descend to their level and they will *still* beat you with experience ;)

I should be disgusted with all the ill-tempered people in this game and on this website but I just can't build up the requisite amount of indignation.  Maybe it's because of all the Mozart and Haydn I listen to while I cruise it.

We are among the most prosperous, the most free, the best fed, the most comfortable, the most entertained people the world has ever known; but it doesn’t make us happy.

Hard to argue. Mine is a rhetorical question for sure.

I do think "audiophiles" often just get caught up in the hunt. Sometimes they don’t even know exactly what is is they are hunting for...just a feeling they are missing out on something, somehow. Not an uncommon thing in general  I suspect and not a formula for happiness there.

One would assume the "audio" in "audiophile" refers to music. Maybe it doesn’t really. Maybe there is a more appropriate term out there somewhere?

We have lost our way spiritually or humanistically, whichever you prefer.

For some, it is not enough to have a great stereo system, yours must be better than everyone else’s and you have to hammer at that point until the losers admit it.

We are among the most prosperous, the most free, the best fed, the most comfortable, the most entertained people the world has ever known; but it doesn’t make us happy. We have to complain about what we don’t have and we have to get others to admit that what we have is better than what they have.

Maybe learning to appreciate what we have and sharing it with others would make us happier. I don’t know, but what we’re doing now doesn’t seem to be working.

I am not sure there is any connection between "audiophile" and "music."

Cheers

Social media makes us worse, sarcasm followed by aggression. No one is having an easy life lately, so this adds up.
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Hmm well there are guidelines for how to have a civilized discussion. There is no requirement that participants agree. Most often they likely will not. That’s what discussions are for....to live and learn.

Oblivious audiophiles can sometimes have that effect on people. To get a feel for just how infuriating it can be when clueless people rudely interrupt a productive conversation watch this amazingly metaphorical dramatization:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cQ_dL_IMPP4

I can think of something like 20 people here Will Farrell could be playing, and there must be a hundred threads they have ruined. But at least he’s not playing one of you insufferable virtue signalers. You know why? Zero humor there. None. What. So. Ever.

Music can also make you feel sad. It can resonate in many ways emotionally. The great thing about it is that it does in fact register to some extent with pretty much all in different ways. It should be a tool towards contentment and happiness in the end. Helping one to battle  their demons is one of its greatest features.

Perhaps some people base their self-esteem on being right & audio is so subjective that there are many flavors of "right". 

Does the music make you feel happy? I feel that's all the "rightness" that someone needs in relation to listening to music.

People need to count their blessings when they have them. Health, family, hifi...the usual suspects. These are things all human beings covet. Well, maybe not all covet hifi as much as others but there is even plenty of that to go around these days for those who do. Music soothes the soul. Hence its universal popularity.

Amen. Social media seems to bring out the worst in some people, who become keyboard warriors. I see it everywhere. "If you don't have something good to say..."
I love a good debate, and often there is no one right answer. I love learning from others, but some seem to want to defend their views and choices like they're rabid dogs. Tiring.