Why is abusive, negative content allowed?

Speaking of cancer why is Troutchoker’s post allowed to stand? Mods, do your duty. Hel-loo!

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=cx2Sps9aMcY

I loved that line! Classic 😁

I think you get MY point. Post Deletions are a pet peeve of mine.
We all got one..

Rude, could just be, down right ignorance.
That in itself, is not to bad, BUT self imposed by many as reason to be rude (I was raised in a barn, I’m behind my keyboard so I’m fearless) NOT YOU. You seem to be aware of others, That’s good. My only fear is when someone ELSE, can have such a profound effect with words TYPED on a view screen on YOU. Your, better than that...
That’s shi$head 1, Niceguy ZERO. It is a game right?
Gotta win, there is no cryin’ in Baseball, Remember ol Tom Hanks. LOL
The self imposed ignorant, choose to be rude bastard is gonna post anyways. Right? Laugh, Dance (no pun intended) still on one stilt? Sorry about that one.. Enjoy the fart smellin’ ignorant person, and add them in your memoirs, when far far far in the future, the end does great you. Hopefully with wide open arms my friend..
Let me go get my holy water... I feel a blessing comin’ on.. God bless your EARS. May what you hear, calm your spirit, from what you read my friend... Amen! (the end)

Regards

b_limo, I will say that you are a very proper well mannored respectable person. You’re making most of us look bad!!

@isochronism , I suppose you are correct 👍

@oldhvymec, if God didn’t want us eatin’ our boogers, he wouldn't have put our nose so close to our mouth.  Jus sayin

Soooo, we’re allowed to be rude and offensive in PM’s, correct?  Otherwise I’m going to be in trouble...

And what’s the deal with so many people posting without reading an entire thread.  I mean, people respond to 10 year old threads where the OP is asking advice on which speaker to buy.  Shoot, even if it’s a current thread and the OP states he just bought fill in the blank, you still get people rambling on with suggestions.  If you got the time to respond, you got the time to read the thread 🤦🏻‍♂️

To OP: If it wasn't allowed there would be like %40 less traffic here.

stooch3 posts05-13-2020 7:43amAs a newcomer to this site, my first two posts were removed for no reason. Nothing that broke your rules. Didn’t insult anyone, just made a joke. So I’m already put off by your community and moving on. Seems like you got a moderator on a power trip in here.
  

Well, shoot, sorry to hear that. Don't go.. No need to get your feeling all hurt..They just need to get use to your, wonderful style, and carisma. Some deletions are automatic too.  But there are a few report happy folks. Very few, it's a pretty good place..

You didn't call anyone a booger eatin' spaz, or anything did ya?...

You can't say booger, or eatin' or spaz, that's a real bad one. 
No name callin'. Even if they are a spaz, can't call em a spaz.
Even if they eat boogers. Booger eatin' spazs. Is more than one
BES.. Can't say that.. Be careful..

LOL

Regards

*G*  Everyone needs some to get by, and get on with it.

To excess: We have a towering version for POTUS right now.

As for the first sentence...I don't believe that for a nanosec.  Unless you're kidding....which a noted tendency towards.

Happy Friday, BTW. *S*

I don’t do well with big words. Egocentric is bad, right?

...reading 'between the lines' is another talent....

Studied indifference is a debatable one...

...a bad habit of mine....I actually read...

Oh, and geo....I'm still intrigued by 'savage breasts'....;)

I know 'what' you meant....I hope....*smirk*

WOW!  Someone actually reads others posts, instead of simply posting his own egocentric BS.  '

Did somebody punch the spike? 😳

....only if the paramedics use parachutes....

b_limo....Ahh, I'll pass on the option....I can stumble about without enough without 'assistance' as it is....;)

Spouse and I saw Shutter Island....reminded me of stumbling into an episode of The Prisoner series....

".....WTF is going on?!"  (And I was 'unaltered' at the time.....)

As a newcomer to this site, my first two posts were removed for no reason. Nothing that broke your rules. Didn’t insult anyone, just made a joke. So I’m already put off by your community and moving on. Seems like you got a moderator on a power trip in here. 

... and some shrinks for the troll!

Send more paramedics! 

We are still animals. If you look behind the text, it is still fight, cry, run & freeze as our basic options against bullies. The report button can have a place, alltough it is not my preferred tactic in the online world.

@atmasphere , True. But the downside is that you have to read them first, and that's a heavy price.

Interesting and nuanced points of view to think about, but i still think that you must face the "troll" yourself instead of warning the moderator. But it is good there is an option for reporting.

@tantejuut  'Facing the troll' is what trolls want. Its how they feed. OTOH simply reporting them is effective.

What's more disturbing is that it seems like a lot of people share the sentiment, yet all the mods have done is first say the thread is unnecessary, and then just ignore it.  So, even though we all agree, nothing is going to be done about it.  

Here is what the guidelines of the site say.  I think the posts in question violate at least:  malicious, false, inaccurate, abusive and defamatory.  

Prohibited content

• You will not submit content that is copyrighted or subject to third party proprietary rights, including privacy, publicity, trade secret, etc., unless you are the owner of such rights or have the appropriate permission from their rightful owner to specifically submit such content.
• You will not post information that is malicious, false or inaccurate.
• You will not post content that is sexually expicit.
• You will not post content that is abusive or defames another member of The Service.

Go figure.

I find it a little funny that the Moderator came on and said something to the effect of this thread was unnecessary and now the comment is removed and the thread is in the popular list. 

@asvjerry , try 90mg of oxy a day for 7 days straight and get back with me.   2 or 3 beers are great, having to put down 2 cases is not so great.

I felt like I was on Shutter Island while I was in the hospital...

geoffkait21,664 posts05-09-2020 3:59pmAre you looking in the mirror?

I'm starting with the man in the mirror
I'm asking him to change his ways
And no message could have been any clearer
If you want to make the world a better place
Take a look at yourself, and then make a change

b_limo...after having a 'short stroll' (Rx'd, thanks) with 'that pain med'...

Rather easily, mho....

"This is way too pleasant...." ;)

@stereo5 , much better, Thank you very much for asking!  On a very low dose of pain meds now too which is really, really good.  Don’t see how people get hooked on that crap...

That Monty Python video was great!  Check out soundermn’s link if you haven’t already 😂

there are 3 or 4 knuckleheads who seem to wait in ambush for one of the other 3 or 4 to say something.

Then they pounce and belittle any and every thing that those others say.
It's like a school playground and they sound pathetic.

@b_limo,

How is the leg feeling?

Is this about me? :)

@heaufio123 Thank you for that well thought out and well laid out post!  It was very informative 👍

I will go with you....


Thanks heaudio for this clear post….

Did I see the Kahuna of this site ask the 'report to person' to remove this thread on 6/6/2020 then delete his response? 

It is not that I can't take care of myself or I don't have thick enough skin, but because to respond to those people "appropriately" would not be appropriate on a public forum and would be a detriment to other people here and the topic being discussed.

+1

@atmasphere and @heaudio123. Interesting and nuanced points of view to think about, but i still think that you must face the "troll" yourself instead of warning the moderator. But it is good there is an option for reporting.

@atmasphere good to know that trolling is not allowed here.  The person that I am complaining about, and the reason I started this thread, is because of a blatant troll.  There is no question about it, he is trolling us and many have fell into his trap.  I’m glad I started this thread now. 

@heaufio123 Thank you for that well thought out and well laid out post!  It was very informative 👍

Given that we all have biases, how does one reliably differentiate between "trolling" and "posting controversial content"?

- I would say if you are creating a thread attacking or promoting a controversial position (no matter what side of the fence you are on) without bringing anything new to the discussion. Then you are trolling.


- If you create a thread whose underlying premise is to insult a portion of the community, no matter their beliefs, then that is trolling


- If you respond to a post and the basis of your response is a personal attack without adding anything new to the discussion, then you are trolling.


- If the basis of your argument is someone else has inferior listening skills, then you are trolling.


- If you bring up a persons (or your) political beliefs to either justify your or negate someone else's position, then you are trolling


- If you respond to a post, even "aggressively", but address what was in the post, clearly why you agree or disagree, provide some logic for your position, and don't insult the other person and make it personal, then you are not a troll, you are someone passionate about the topic.


- If you respond to someone's reply to your post, even if aggressive, but "reasoned", and don't take it personally (assuming they didn't), and you do the same, then you are passionate about the topic and a mature adult.


Unfortunately, in a short period of time I have felt the need to report a few posts to moderators. It is not that I can't take care of myself or I don't have thick enough skin, but because to respond to those people "appropriately" would not be appropriate on a public forum and would be a detriment to other people here and the topic being discussed. Their posts were not adding to the topic, were personal attacks, and in some cases were targeted trolling.


My personal experience (here and elsewhere), is that those first to resort to personal attacks, are also the first to behave like they are the victim in the interchange. When faced with an inability to logically and maturely defend their position, their reaction is to lash out and absolve themselves of responsibility.


The reality is that not all "conflict" is bad. Both exposing yourself to ideas that conflict with your own and being forced to defend your position are learning experiences if you allow them to be. It's okay to aggressively defend your position if you do it maturely, just prepared to be wrong.

Depending on the country, you might be disappointed to find that if he is in public space, that you cannot do that! Just because you don't like an opinion does not legally mean that it cannot be spoken.

This is not a public forum, so free speech does not exist here. I'm all for free speech too, but on an internet forum trolls jump in a mess things up, so free speech on an internet forum is really rare. So I don't mind giving up some of my free speech so I can participate here.


IOW moderation exists to keep the discussion relatively polite and on-topic, without trolling. Trolling BTW is any kind of post that induces anger, anxiety or the like simply for the sake of messing with people.


When everyone here signed off (clicked the 'Terms and Conditions' box) they did so with the full understanding that they gave up their free speech rights so they could participate on this privately-owned forum.

So this thread at least is helpful in that this is made clear; that there is good reason to report trolling (and since the moderators rarely participate in threads, the only way trolling will be stopped), name-calling, spam and the like. Just get used to the 'Report' button, and use it.

I mostly skip the "debate" after I have made my point. You can never win a pissing contest like that. But I don't like reporting and censoring, and I believe in freedom of speech. But it can be difficult sometimes in an online world to filter out all the junk.

“Never argue with stupid people, they will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience.”

Mark Twain

tantejuut44 posts05-08-2020 5:19pm
People have to face the offensive poster themselves and tell them what is wrong. Hittin the report button is kind of lame. 

I've tried that, only to have my post dissected line by line and word by word to prove how wrong I was.  Childish and ridiculous, and every time it's happened, the "debate" had nothing to do with audio, or the OP question.  How does that contribute value to anything?

>>>OMG Have I created a Frankenstein monster? Have I been cloned? It’s like looking in the mirror. 👀

Mirror must have screamed.

glupson

geoffkait,

"Am I on a roll today or what?"

Looks like a bagel to me.

>>>OMG Have I created a Frankenstein monster? Have I been cloned? It’s like looking in the mirror. 👀

"It IS 'all about you, Mr, Geoffakait.  We've been getting some information about your 'friends'...needless to say, it's a distrubing read..."
*Dragnet Joe Friday imatation, done by a dwarf in a pink kilt, huffing helium*

No, sorry to say, just ordinary garden variety plants....and Yes, b_limo, the 'better' hydro is unfortunately in that $ range...still a 'no-no' in NC, but 'tolerated' to varying degrees and groups.  And I'm of an age that I'm suspect of being a very odd sort of undercover sort...
...unless I get the drop on them...

"Look, I helped invent this 'lifestyle addition' to your daily distraction...*sotto voce'* ...f'n punks....*long drag*

*sour face*exhale*  "You actually Paid for this?!"

"DemoMan!  Able to fool cultured audiophiles with Class D amps, disguised with 6X7 tubes with just their heaters illuminated!"
*Viscous fiend*

Now, Geo...baby....when the mark walks into the shop, be friendly until he does the line about 'wanting just a Nice 5.1 for home theater'...then get into the 'vaguely disinterested and archly vacant' thing.....

Ready?  (Start the cam....)
Action!

"....we'll make a meme out of him if it's the last thing he does..."

*g*  (Monday in 10 minutes...)

Can we please try not to make this all about me? No, wait! Never mind.

"...Now off to watch Demolition  Man"

geoffkait has his own TV show?

Not really.  Top shelf is a buck fitty

and yes, yes you are on a roll today G 👍 and I think Jerry is as well 😁

Thanks for the smiles Gentlemen.  
...Now off to watch Demolition  Man