Why Do You Post?
I come here to poke fun ONLY... No need for tech talk. AG could care less. I'm trying to draw the TROLLS out.. I'm bored.
This is what someone posted in an active thread. I'm dumbfounded!
I come to Audiogon to learn and share information, keep abreast of audiophile happenings and to gain exposure or insight into music. I thought I was in the majority camp of users, but based upon the above quote, could be I'm not.
Can I replace "know-it-all" with "people with both the education and experience to confidently either state something as true or refute what someone else thinks is "knowledge" but is just an audiophile lore?
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All posts in a forum have value when they do not make fun of the topic. It is nice to exchange, views, findings, knowledge and can support them with your own experiences. There are people here who have certainly learned something more, practiced it, regardless of whether say so. I saw the other day a post by a happy man for all the advice he was given. That's the real value of participating and posting. |
@audioguy85 No ducks here but plenty of quackery. I post mainly to expose silly notions for being just that. |
trolls gonna troll, it’s all they got to offer... wake up every morning, no other joy available through more productive and positive means rather pitiful actually we all know real people in our lives in this unfortunate position... these folks actually deserve empathy, help, love... except here, they are anonymous and spoil the experience for others... |
@teo_audio - I got turned onto Dobie Gray in around '73, and "got" the soulful vibe. I tracked down a couple of his records a while ago. Musical taste is separate from a well tuned hi-fi, though the system should, ideally, be genre/style agnostic. I dig a lot of the '70s soul/fusion/jazz, which was not a high point for vinyl pressings, but pretty wide ranging in terms of musical taste. I can play heavy, proto-three chord, classical or pretty much any genre, but prefer certain small combo jazz from the '70s. Although my taste in music should not be a deciding factor in assembling a system, it may prove to be, especially for those on a budget. |
I try to help people understand how to get a realistic, actual musically correct signal to come out of their gear. how it evaluate gear in isolation. how a single cause analysis test should work, how to assemble that into a system, how evaluate the parts of a system, How the human ear works so they learn how to listen How the mind works on connection to hearing so they can learn to listen past and through their internal filters and faults. None of this is simple, until it becomes instinct and such. that 10,000 hr thing. ~~~~~~~~ In such scenarios, the key point is the fixing of the self, the growth of the self -above and beyond all else. which people in general are loathe to do, they’d rather shoot and destroy everything around them, instead of that. Growth is painful (literally painful, seriously) as it requires the death of the old to occur first so the new can fit in. So it’s a fight, an unwanted one, but one I enter into willfully and knowingly, about how it can engender dislike, in some, of my posting. Most times it’s not fun, but i don’t know what else to do. nothing else works, IMO and IME. The data needs to be out there, for when people do break down and look for it, and are ready for it. There is no fix, for any of this in being a necessity and ’a way’ (this is the way), as we all learn differently and we all have different minds, we all hear differently and we all take a different path up the mountain. Ie, that people spouting a singular story ("this is what I do, etc") is just us playing the ego echo chamber game of self reflection and hoping we get no hatred when we speak and expose our frailty to the world. So there is no such thing and never will be of one single method of learning new things. There are as many ways of learning as there are people in the world and the best we can get to is forms of/in generalism, with manifold examples, in manifold directions. Thus, due to all of the above..I change how it say it, often, almost in a form of rotation, just talking around the subject in various different methods and ways.
to take it to a next level of complexity, the problem is that it is forums, so it is further removed from full and proper communication so misinterpretation and reflection of one’s own ego and emotions somehow being read in my message, is the norm. (not what I said, or what I meant, but how the reader feels) That’s how forums work. To add, music is not about logic, or bettering the self through trial and error, it is about blanking out and pleasuring the self. Engaging the monkeys timelss joy in moving to the beat or getting lost in the ethereal aspects of loss of time and pressures. Which is the opposite of self control and considerations. So we can get people’s blind and rejecting ugly side as a norm, on audio forums, if we inject the tension of discussion and argument in what is essentially a very complex multi-faceted scenario of high quality audio reproduction in one’s own home. Getting high and getting off is a complex affair. In this case, chock full of individualism and a lack of understanding, yet we all seek peaks, peaks that require all of that.
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What can I say? I enjoy hanging out here. The posters at the 'gon may be surlier than normal but they also tend to be brighter than normal. In any event, I have a thick skin when it comes to engaging in arguments over the aether. For one, you don't have to suffer through your fellow poster's not-quite-minty breath. Just don't put down Gustav Mahler! |
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I first started posting at the end of 2005, to get feedback from other users who had made the switch from full range electrostats to horns. I got some good input. Since then, I’ve periodically posted on troubleshooting issues, including electrical system approaches, on "new to me" LPs (most of which are old or just standard pressings from back in the day- not audiophile reissues of warhorses) or occasionally, to help someone who asks about equipment with which I’m familiar. I find that the chat fora do change over time-- nature of the beast. I still check in at Audiogon, but am not as involved here as I once was. I do like the "community" aspect- moderation was never really an issue since there seemed to be a general understanding that civility was better than snark if your objective was to get or share information. If people want to use the board to fight or engage in a battle of wits, knock yourself out. One thing that seems to be a constant theme these days is the elusive "magic bullet" type tweak that is going transform your system. I think getting the basics right first is more important. When I came up in this hobby, you didn’t have to spend the equivalent of a house to get what was considered "high end" (although not cheap, even then, compared to mass market). Some of that equipment still endures. Now, I think a lot of people are looking for reasonably priced alternatives and there is a huge amount of equipment out there- tube amps, turntables, cartridges, etc., to say nothing of innovations in digital home playback. I think there’s always a tendency to recommend what you own, or aspire to. I do try to resist that, and often avoid product recommendations altogether, looking instead to what the user’s objective is, room, state of AC power. I also don’t pretend guru status. I guess being amused may be more important than being informed. We’ll age out and the next generation will take the helm if it hasn’t already. The only constant is change. |
For the same reasons I came to AG over 20 years ago (!). But, I think like you, I find that too many of the users come here for ego enhancement at the expense of other members. To many responses to user questions and problems are driven by what product will ’solve’ the problem, too few responses about the problem itself and what solutions are available. Drive out the trolls and merchants I say. Perhaps some DIY stuff like the old days. Say what you will about our prolific contributor, he is a DIY proponent, i.e. open minded. FWIW, this forum does not represent what I came to audio to experience, yet ’hope springs eternal’. :-) |
I posted that for a reason. Watch what happens. I’m still bored. You posted to show your reverence for the stereo world. I posted to show my support for the many AG posters that are no longer here. I know HOW to hook up RCA, that is what AG has turned into. oldhvymec is still on picket. I’m one of his supporters. You have a problem with that? What made this place is GONE.. Wake up.... GK, MC, OHM, kenjit, georgehifi, helmholtzsoul, the guy from Russia, guppy, and 500 more.. Are you guys blind. The lemmings are running, fall in.
AG has a real problem with OWGs and conservative view point.. Me I just got a problem in general. I don’t like bully bosses.. Or moderators... |
