I have Moabs. They all do.
But Nilsson Jump Into the Fire is freaking awesome. Then again so is Time, Money, Run Like Hell, Don't Come Around Here No More (you would freak to hear how well recorded this is!), In Your Eyes, Funeral For a Friend, all of Joshua Tree, Ride Across the River (BIA), oh and Cecilia, The Boxer, you really expect me to choose just one of these? Really? You come over, have a listen, see if YOU can pick just one!
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MC: The Joshua Tree? Really? I've always liked the music on that album. But the recording is hideous. I've never heard that album sound good, anywhere. And it ain't just me saying that. I'll re-visit your other suggestions, since it's been a while since I've heard them. |
Yeah pretty sure you said that before. You need to find a better copy. Stop wasting your time with digital. Fix your system. Fix their systems. Or whatever. The LP I have is deep and wide and sounds just fine.
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Sorry, Joshua Tree is good enough I can't stop thinking about this. Had to add on.... Seriously. The early tracks, Where the Streets Have No Name the organ is deep ominous and powerful. Dynamics are impressive, there's never any edge (heh) or grain and the next couple hard rocking tracks are clean and clear. Running to Stand Still you have almost Doug MacLeod quality harmonica floating in a deep black stage. Its these quieter tracks where you really appreciate the recording quality. Personally while I like the first few tracks they get a little hard on my ears but not from the sound quality just from the volume that makes these tracks sound so good. The Edge does something a little different to get a signature unique to each song, and the recording (and playback, I really think you need to find some better systems to hear this on) distinguishes among them easily. You hear every lick clean and clear, and there's a wonderful bell-like quality he's engineered into his signature sound. On lesser systems you lose the decay and bell quality, it can be almost like a washboard. Not here. The later tracks are wonderful. To me they get better and better as there's more and more interesting sounds. There's a wheel turning with something scraping on it and it makes for one of the most fascinating sounds I have ever heard on any recording. Records do vary tremendously from copy to copy. Its entirely possible I lucked out and got an exceptionally good one, while the vast majority are crap. If you're listening to digital then of course it is all crap. The only way I know of being sure to get a good copy, one at least as good as mine, is here https://better-records.com/search?q=u2 Yes they are worth it. Unfortunately they can only sell them when they can find copies good enough to be Hot Stampers. When they do though boy are they good! I like Joshua Tree enough to buy a White Hot Stamper (if I ever see one) but it would have to be White Hot as mine is probably already just about Hot Stamper level. But Joshua Tree is good enough to be worth it. For real. If you're not hearing it, its not the recording. Somethings wrong somewhere else.
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ZZ TOP, Viva Las Vegas. House gets to booging buddy. Heck ZZ Top.. I’m with you roxy, been a while. Beck is the bomb. I need to dig some of the early stuff up.. Rod Stewart and Beck? I think they were in the water pipe burst in the late 80s, ugly... :-(
Beck/Stanly Clark/Tony Williams Sr/Chick Corea or Herbie Hancock, with Miles Davis, every now and then. Mr Beck had really refined his talent by then. Seen him and variance of those a few times in the Bay Area. Small venues..
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@roxy54 I'm assuming you mean Beck, not Jeff Beck ???
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46&2 -Tool Fireball - Deep Purple The Nightfly - Donald Fagen (MQA Japanese CD) |
Jeff Beck and The Yardbirds... with Rod the Mod... Stewart. :-) That's the Beck I'm talking about...
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if i had to choose one, it would be "Babe I’m Gonna Leave You" from Zed Zepplin 1, 15 ips, 1/4" master dub, followed right behind by "You Shook Me" and "Dazed and Confused" also on that same ’reel 1" of that same master dub.
played at warp 9 on the Studer on my big rig it takes no prisoners.
Rock n’ Roll was never the same after side 1 of that album. Rock n' Roll may not have ever been as good again as it was after side 1 of that album. and it just happens to be a great recording too. |
Almost every track from side two on from the Rhino Records two volume Roy Orbison Anthology LP set.
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Rock? Pretty much anything... But going big, Sevendust kicks ass! I have to agree with MC on the Joshua Tree comment. Sounds fantastic on my system. The vinyl just kills it! |
Regarding Joshua Tree album and wasting time on digital... "Some of the gear I can remember using was as follows: Vox other than Trip tru' was always a Shure 58, Danny had a very tempremenal Sony mic (can't remember model no.,) that was used on Trip Tru' Oh and maybe one of my Beyer M88's on another song but I can't remember which one. also Danny had a magical patch lead that he had since peter gabriel's sledgehamer days, wich if used to make a split of the vocal and then mixed back in with the original would give a wonderful brightness to the vocal that couldn't be achieved by EQ! I thought it was just an out of phase lead at first so I tried to make one of my own but It didn't work the same way...so it was truly a magical lead. Reverbs and delays were as you mentioned plus a load of SPX 90's a Lexicon 224XL(larc) an a couple os Korg SD3000 delay units (which I loved) also at windmill lane there was an Old sony Digital Reverb unit which was beautiful sounding. Also we used one of the rooms in Edges house as a real echo chamber which had speakers fed from a desk Aux and a couple of ambient mikes returning back to the desk. Consoul was an SSL at windmill lane and An Amek 2500 used at Adam's and Edge's houses. Tape machines were OTARI MTR90's using Telcom noise reduction. Compressors.. the usual collection of 1176's and I think some DBX 160's and for mixing Sumit loaned us both a compressor and an EQ which I used exclusevly on Bono's vocal. Monitors I brought my own AR18's which I used for tracking at Adam's and mixing at Edges.I still use this exact set today...... at windmill NS10's were in use. That's what I can remember off the top of my head.. Cheers Dave Meegan" https://www.gearslutz.com/board/so-much-gear-so-little-time/36523-joshua-tree.html |
geof: I have to agree with MC on the Joshua Tree comment. Sounds fantastic on my system. The vinyl just kills it!
Thank you. Same goes for Tom Petty, Don't Come Around Here No More. Every track on Southern Accents is awesome but that one is just mind-blowing its so much better than you ever dreamed from the TP on CD. Of course it helps that mine's a White Hot Stamper! I have no idea what your average copy sounds like. Rumours and the eponymous Fleetwood Mac, ditto. Go Your Own Way, The Chain, and World Turning are great on vinyl, but you have no idea how great until you hear a White Hot Stamper. Seriously. No idea. Not kidding. Not just me saying that either. Keith was here, this is what he had to say (from my Tekton Moab thread):
I enjoyed hearing everything but was most
shocked at Fleetwood Macs "Landslide" Hearing it so many times in the
past and then not recognizing the intro because of the detailed
soundstage. Then Chuck let Stevie Nicks sneak into the room and begin
the vocals dead center right in front of me and the recognition set in.
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mikelevigne -- you made me break out my First Week It Came Out LP copy of "Led Zeppelin." I first heard the record on a buddy’s parent’s JBL/Fisher stereo custom console. Another friend had brought it over. I was so blown away by the sheer intensity of the band, when Side One ended I immediately headed to the nearest record store and bought the thing. I listened to the record for years. I saw the band when they came to town. Festival seating. Me and my girlfriend ooched our way to the front of the stage.
Anyway, cut to the present. I’m currently listening to side one. Pretty good clarity & imaging but absolutely no lows or highs. Not as compressed as some rock records of the era but certainly no dynamo. The music? As powerful as ever. |
lowrider57, Yes, I meant Beck. I think that his recordings are usually excellent, and very present. |
Remember My Name - Toy Matinee
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LCD Soundsystem, all of it but especially, the American Dream and Electric Lady Sessions albums. |
That’s a tough one to pick but the #plays stats in my music library say:
#1 Conquistador by Procol Harum ( the popular live version with Edmonton Symphony)
#2. Red Top by The Ventures
#3 Goin Down by The Monkees
#4 Prozakc Blues - King Crimson (live version off Elektrik album)
#5 Dark As The Grave by Steve Hackett off live70s80s90s album
#6 The Future by Leonard Cohen
#7 Get Thy Bearings by Donovan
#8 Cities by Talking Heads
#9 Ivan Meets GI Joe - The Clash
#10 Follow Your Daughter Home - The Guess Who |
Dire Straits, Communiqué Lou Reed, Transformer
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"Best" is so subjective, but Frankenstein by Edgar Winter always gives me a thrill. |
Frankenstein by Edgar Winter always gives me a thrill.
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I haven’t listen to that in a long time.. That is Better than my original. I’m gonna dig that out.. It’s somewhere here on vinyl..
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Dangit! They are sold out of Joshua Tree. Thanks for that website, millercarbon. For an awesome sounding “rock” song, I’m going to suggest something other than the effed-out classic rock songs we all have listened to a million times. Try:
Artist: Scorpions Album: MTV Unplugged Song: Wind of Change
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"Frankenstein by Edgar Winter always gives me a thrill."
I recall tearing the voice coil off of a woofer for my Electro Voice speakers back in high school playing this a bit louder than I should have.
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Pretty much all of them. Special mention, Religion- 10 Years After Come Together - Beatles Locomotive Breath - Jethro Tull |
Metallica, Master of Puppets. Pink Floyd, Learning to Fly. Judas Priest, Turbo Lover. ACDC, A Touch Too Much. Men at Work, Overkill. Toto, I Won’t Hold You Back. Christine Mcvie, Got a Hold on Me. Bruce Springsteen, Tunnel of Love. |
Tip toe to the Tulips was the greatest rock tune .
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