What is the Best Sounding Stand Mount Speaker in the world?


Price no object.

Brand and Model is adequate.

If you have not listened to it,  please restrain yourself.

 

I raise this question because there is a maker claiming

to be the best. I am curious if it will garner votes. 

Conclusion out tomorrow!! 

Stay tuned!!!

 

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The Wilson-Benesch Endeavors are sublime. Why you might ask. Well they combine rich midrange, excellent tonality, ie voices sound exactly like they should, the bass is very accurate without being heavy and over compensating. Many stand mounts in an effort to sound impressive force the mid drive to perform like a bass unit. 

 

aplogies if i have missed the jist,

is this thread a promo for a specific company/model?

 

 

 

JEFFSEIGHT,

Are you now glad you asked that question ???

"In the land of the blind, The one eyed man is king"

.. 3rd on the MBL’s, which I’ve heard. Phenomenal imaging, tonal coherance/realism, albeit at a somewhat miniaturized scale. One caveat.. at the show the demonstrators treated the room quite extensively.

I've been in this hobby for a long time (since 1979).Just remember it is a hobby not a life and death pursuit. My opinion and only my opinion is the Rogers LS3/5A. gold badge that I purchased in 1979 for $300.00 (used) but costed $400.00 new at the time.Sold them on this site in 1979 for $1,70.00.!!  I almost blew them up but Regnar in New York saved them. They are all the things the top reviewers say they are and why reviewers like Holt, Kessler, and Reichert keep them around regardless of all the new contestants they reviewed.

(R.I.P. Holt) Now the polar opposite would be the Usher BE718 DMD now discontinued but sometimes available on the used market. They are big and bold, sounding like a floor stander and easily able to fill a large room with sound. Needs a good stand like the Skylan two pillar stands filled with epoxy aquarium gravel. In my opinion everything out there are also-rans. NOTE: read the review in 6moons on the Ushers, but read it carefully about his thoughts on standpoint speakers in general. An eyeopener!

David

@jhw9

..really interested to hear the new Audio Physic speakers with their latest spider-less transducer technology. NEAR won me over long ago just because of this. Glad to see it coming back.

Yes, me too.

Also, their crazy snowflake/hybrid midrange. Assuming it makes its way down the range eventually (we can’t call Medeos a stand-mount :-)

Honestly never heard a commercial speaker, 2-way I liked better than a Fritz.

I've found others I liked a lot like Monitor Audio Silvers and higher, but if I was going to buy a 2-way which has to stand alone, without a sub, Fritz without a doubt.

@kellyp

agreed but it takes some skill, this is our Master Artist Signature Monitor on its optional matching bass module

 Wired with Kimber Kable 4tc wire. We used Mundorf binding post and Parts (Including Goertz Copper Foil 12awg inductors on the woofer, ClarityCap CSA cap and Mundorf Copper Foil 16 awg inductors on the mid, and Mundorf Supreme EVO-Oil/ClarityCap CSA combo caps on tweeter, Mundorf MREsist Supreme resistors in all critical tweeter and midrange circuits. Wrapped in porsche blue leather and has birdseye maple real wood veneer. raal 140 ribbon tweeter, accuton 7" cell mid bass and accuton 8" cell woofer

 

[please forgive my poor English]

- Stenheim Alumine Two, or Alumine Two SE
Fast, articulate. Highly revealing. Impressively realistic if the amp (preferably on the "rich-sounding" side) is very good.
- Harbeth Monitor 30.2 XD
Good clarity; amazingly natural midrange; gorgeous treble, seamlessly integrated with the mid; slightly rich upper bass (which makes this revealing ’monitor’ enjoyable to listen to). Amongst the best timbres with acoustic instruments.

Lawrence audio makes fantastic products. I had their mandolin speakers were were fabulous in my previous rig. Am using NSMT Jamaica 50 now but absolutely loved the mandolins. 

No one has mentioned the Manger Audio c1 (or the passive z1). To my ears, they should be on the list!

... that's because there is no one best sounding speaker, it's subjective and a matter of taste and system matching.

..really interested to hear the new Audio Physic speakers with their latest spider-less transducer technology. NEAR won me over long ago just because of this. Glad to see it coming back. Point source with the transparency of panels (without the back wave).

I guess many people have to consider what they have, or have had, is the best component be it speakers or any other, that's probably why they bought that component. Having listened to at least hundreds of speakers I am now truly happy with mine in my room in my system. They may not be the choice  for many other people. I was looking for a larger stand mount eventually settling on the PMC FACT 3, until I listened to them, no not for me, Dynaudio bookshelf, nice finish, sounded ordinary, I could go on and on but eventually settled on, a small floor stander by Audio Physic, probably because I was up grading an existing pair of Audio Physics. Its what suits you, no best just a lot of very good ones.

I’m not going out on limb by nominating the The Borresen M1. However disclaimer.. have not actually heard them yet.. so skip to the last paragraph, but on the M1’s, I have read about the engineering and have heard other Borrensen and Raidho stand mounts so would be surprised if these aren’t at the top. I’ve also read great things about the Fleetwood DeVille, but haven’t heard them.

For what I’ve actually heard.. First consideration would be to Audio Note AN-E/SPx AlNiCo. Fritz’s stand mounts are really good for the money, as are Klaus Bunge’s Kismets, which I fondly remember. I also like the latest Vimbergs, and the latest big QLN’s. I’m not in the BBC LS3 5a or KEF LS50 camp. I’ve got an old pair of NEAR 10m’s in my bedroom which I prefer to those using the proper sources and cabling.

For all the stand mount speakers which I’ve actually heard.. which for my money, besides disappearing.. imaging, they must have weight, dynamics. I would choose (and did) the Ocean Way Audio Eurekas. The caveat being.. they’re driven by high powered high damping factor GaNFET amplification. Time alignment.. sweet, detailed, dimensional.. image like mad.. sound like big really well engineered 3-ways.

ACORA...the best go back to the "stone age".  Also the Fink Team KIM.....

Mine of course! But for reasons. Double wall sand filled cabinets on Stillpoints. Audiolund internal wiring. Powered woofer. Heil tweeter AND MIDRANGE so thin diaphrams handle sound above 800 Hz. RF blocker cladding. 

Adam Audio

Not made anymore.

Gotta bring beer to hear.

Wilson Benesch builds very competent stand mounted loudspeakers.  I continue to enjoy my Vertex loudspeakers & added the W-B Torus System.  Hardly in the super east no object league, but always engaging.

kellyp,

 

Funny I was just thinking I would do that. 

I have a friend with a C&C machine.

Powered speakers, active XOs.

 SB Acoustics 29BE tweeter

Revelator 6.5" midwoofer.

Woofer???

I wonder about that. I don’t think the majority of people have those skills. The high dollar speakers are finely tuned and voiced. I wish it was that easy but I doubt it? 

Price no object?  The most precious commodity is time.  So, build your own.  The materials can be exotic as you want, usually better than manufacturers use.  Thus, it is possible to build a speaker better than anything you have heard.  

I have heard/liked:

MBL 120

SF electa amator 3

Borresen 01

Joseph Pulsars

Wilson Benesch curve

Dutch and Dutch

AudioNote Hemp

ATC

Altec A-7s

Fritz

Totem

 

Speakers that left me flat:

Magico

Wilson

Graham

 

 

 

Not heard:

GH

Vivid

Kii

Dynaudio

 

 

BMR Philharmonitors 

Dynaudio Heritage Special 

Ascend Acoustics Sierra 2 EX

good Lord, some of you would screw up a wet dream.  he's asking for opinions on the best out there, of course its gear, room specific. state the best you have heard and stop lecturing. the wilson benesche is very nice as is the SF Guarni

@eisen0169

Yamaha calls the NS-5000 a bookshelf speaker, but it has to be put on a stand so Absolute Sound classifies it as stand-mounted and the stands are included and integral to the design. It’s a shame AS did not give it its own review but included it in a review of the series, and Stereophile didn’t review it. There’s a bias in the USA against Japanese audiophile speakers although it’s true basically only Yamaha and Sony in that market and then only when they want to be. That said, name me another full-range (bass down to low 20’s) speaker with a 12" woofer, a dome midrange (hard to do) AND all three drivers made from the same high tech material and innovations inside, with Yamaha’s superb piano finish, AND at $14,995, Yamaha hasn’t even raised the price. With the Blade Runner 2049 soundtrack, the room will vibrate, but the speaker won’t. With piano music, well it’s Yamaha after all. Ask Sir Elton.

That’s a speaker I’d love to see and hear. And probably touch. 🤩

Of those mentioned here and fabulous, I’ve heard Focal Diablo recently enough to remember, it’s a nice one.

@jeffseight  Good question. The Electa Amator 3's are a very nice speaker, certainly a lot more attainable and more modern looking. Having listened to them extensively, I think they would be a good choice IF one could not source the GH's, which is highly likely. The GH's are IMO a lot more transparent and dynamic than the EA3's, plus they seem to disappear into the soundstage better. Like i said, I have never heard a better stand mount than the GH's...and I have heard a lot of stand mounts, including the later G's, the Magico's and the Borresson, which is right up there with the GH's, albeit at a price that would most folks jaw drop! 

Hiding in plain sight is the often overlooked (but never under rated when heard) ESTELON XC DIAMOND. SOA drivers (ceramic & Diamond) in an equally SOA cabinet. Widely agreed to have transparency & balanced musical sound second to nothing else. Of course there are other ways to go, but nothing can be said to obviously beat them in really any area (bearing in mind a subwoofer is always recommended for any stand mount). I mean ANY area including surprisingly enough, compatibility with lowish power tube amplifiers. Their impedance is extremely high, as is their sensitivity. Probably the only SOA speaker that could be adequately powered by Lamm amplifiers or Conrad Johnson’s ART 27A for example. Could the same be said overall, of any of the other speakers listed here (or existing elsewhere)? Exactly.

There are numerous candidates one could identify as excellent stand mount speakers, but there is no such thing as "best-sounding" because the matter is a subjective one.

No two persons' ears/brains are identical and therefore personal perception is a major factor. Moreover, one cannot discount personal biases, brand loyalties, aesthetic preferences coming having an influence. 

The Wilson Benesch Endeavor is the top on my list. It’s my forever speaker. 

Okay time for a wrap.

Thanks to all who offered an opinion.

The Borresen 01s are excellent.

Sadly not heard the Gamuts, Belgians or TADs.

Have heard Vimberg Ameas which were quite good.

Some of these names will form a base for consideration

in the 2023  event.

 

 

The Borresen 01's seem to be the consensus winner here, a speaker that I never have listened to.  I am surprised that the Focal Diablo Utopia III's have been nominated for that category of the "best ever."  I had them and they are great speakers, especially with a tube amp, but the "best ever,"  . . .? The Joseph Audio Pulsars, another speaker that I have owned, is a fantastic well-rounded stand mounted speaker, but I would put them in the same league with the Focal's.  A different sound between the two, both enjoyable.  Maybe I'm just jaded now regarding what the "best" stand mounted speaker should sound like . . .

 

The choice is so subjective, and the defining factor is the ROOM.... (room and system synergy).

Yamaha calls the NS-5000 a bookshelf speaker, but it has to be put on a stand so Absolute Sound classifies it as stand-mounted and the stands are included and integral to the design.  It's a shame AS did not give it its own review but included it in a review of the series, and Stereophile didn't review it.  There's a bias in the USA against Japanese audiophile speakers although it's true basically only Yamaha and Sony in that market and then only when they want to be.  That said, name me another full-range (bass down to low 20's) speaker with a 12" woofer, a dome midrange (hard to do) AND all three drivers made from the same high tech material and innovations inside, with Yamaha's superb piano finish, AND at $14,995, Yamaha hasn't even raised the price.  With the Blade Runner 2049 soundtrack, the room will vibrate, but the speaker won't.  With piano music, well it's Yamaha after all.  Ask Sir Elton.

I use ATCscm300 actives, stunning speakers especially for a large room on a ‘budget’ but hardly a stand mount speaker like the 150’s, unless you reckon 4 stillpoint ultra 5’s under each count as a stand!!!!

Probebly ,The best speaker in The world : The Belgian , Ilumnia Magister MK2. Never heard à better sound before!