Update From Ron New Day Record Covid 19 Battle


Ron and his whole family have been battling Covid for a month. This is a update he posted on YouTube. Good to hear things are improving and wishing him and family the best.

 

Watch "Where have I been? Covid-19" on YouTube
https://youtu.be/Dl7xO3zMbDo

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Sad Story oldhvymec

My sincere sympathy...

But thanks for this instructive and moving story ...

 

My deepest respect to you....

Master M, she went to heaven, I have to have a reason for the hope I have.. She was the same way. VERY much at peace. Sad, not at all, she never was in pain, I spent every minute I could with her, we were best friends.. I learnd a lot from her, smart, tough little lady.. LOL Tons of fun.. From Texas during the dust bowl. She loved to dance, play a piano and a mouth harp.. She could really Dance.. Very elegant, but could jitterbug up a storm, or clog.. Funny..

Regard

@oldhvymec Sorry to hear about your mother, she sounds like a wonderful woman, we all have to go...but you can only hope that you are surrounded by your loved ones when it is your time to do so.

I am also very spiritual, and think death is just another door, a journey we must all take, meeting that end with Grace and Dignity is something we can all hope for 🙏

 

On my journey back to health, one of the first things I did was invest in a reverse osmosis filter. Most tap is water is contaminated beyond measure....actually the city I live in, you can measure it and it has about 500ppm of garbage+heavy metals.

600 ppms is enough to grow plants in aqua culture. It is that bad...

Clean water, clean food, bioavailable minerals, probiotics are a very effective way to heal yourself of pretty much any ailment. Add in excercse, and trips out to nature...and you’ll be around for a very long time, healthy and in near perfect condition.

 

I had bad allergies when very young so received an allergy shot monthly. In 7th grade a physical examination was needed to begin school. That was in 1970. About 1978 I decided I no longer needed the shots, so I discontinued. I was correct. In 1991 I applied to a school so another PE required. No other Doctor visits between the two, and never a PE or visit since.I’m very lucky. Imminent When this plandemic hit, no masks (only during store requirement, otherwise I would not have)) no sanatizers, no social distancing, (no crowds) With the first mention of vaccines, I was against them. I have been reading/studying etc, I’ll call the Elites/Globalists world plans, (sssociated) Conspiracies (which most are) MSM (which is A JOKE) and Alternate Media Religians, Political players, etc. All very informally I’ll add, but it all ties together. Btw, I got rid of TV in 2006, never looked back. This whole virus thing was PLANNED! The "vaccines" weren’t just thrown together as an emergency effort! As was previously eloquently posted above (and I agree with your similar outlook) I’m VERY sorry to predict things will get worse before better. Remember we ARE all in this boat together. Wishing all the best.

The level of arguing presented in this particular thread is why our spieces is unlikely to ever get off this planet and expand out into the solar system. It's a real tragedy.  

@nonoise 

Me thinks @arafiq might be inserting a bit of sarcasm with his post

nonoise

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arafiq, you fool. Period.

As can be seen by the evidence of many posts after I gave the unaware simple direction to where to find the truth, was ignored.

 

And to all who took the time to direct the sheeple who get their truth from MSM pushing Fauci 24/7, among others, let it go. The sheeple simply cannot be woken up.

 

The good news is a lot of hi-end audio equipment will be available cheap and soon. The likelyhood of living past 3 years after the second jab are not good

Am I wrong but are a number of you advocating that capitalism and healthcare have a problem? That more government regulations are needed?

My word. Same arguments that sane people use against the gun industry. Not to mention those used against socialistic, communist Democrats.

Yes there's nothing more Communist than sensible gun safety regulations.

When do all of you ever have time to listen to music?

They dont. They are too busy fighting the Illuminati. 

Just a few observations.

I think Ron's video is a pretty strong argument for getting vaccinated, even though he does not explicitly state that. What I take from the video, what I think Ron is trying to communicate through personal experiences is that COVID is a serious disease. If you're not vaccinated, once one family member is infected, all the other family members are at risk. His experience illustrates that you can get very sick from COVID even if you are young, strong, and healthy. If you survive the disease, as most people do, and as Ron's wife thankfully did, you can still get sick enough to be hospitalized with a serious pneumonia, causing great distress to your loved ones. Kids generally don't get as sick as adults from COVID, but they can get really  too. 

None of us are perfect, and the science on COVID is not perfect, but we are learning more every day. Medicine is basically applied statistics, and vaccines are subject to risk/benefit analysis. Can you get sick and die from any of the COVID vaccines? Absolutely. A few people have died, and some people have had severe complications from the vaccine. But the benefit of getting the vaccine is statistically overwhelming. You are far more likely to get sick or to die if you don't get the vaccine, compared to getting the vaccine and subjecting yourself to the risk. Right now the hospitals are still filled with COVID patients, and 90% of them are unvaccinated.  

If you dispute the science behind COVID, I'm not sure we can have a productive conversation. Everyone is entitled to their opinion, but they're not entitled to their own facts.

Ron, thank you for sharing your story. I hope you and your family recover fully from COVID soon.
 

 

@jcoehler thanks for pointing that out. 

@arafiq , sorry for the misunderstanding of your post as it was getting hot and heavy in the trenches. I missed your humor on that one.

All the best,

Nonoise

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I am not calling anyone or side out here, but just a reminder. Propaganda is not fact nor science.

Why are there no commercials for the Covid jabs? By law, the side effects, for any drug, must be stated in the advertisement. 

I will re-state my position which is based in scientific history about natural virus emergency:

Look for a vaxx ONLY for the people at risk..

Look for cheap drugs protocols for the young and healthy...Dont ban them...

Test and confine ONLY the people who has virus and symptoms...

 

 

Any massive worldwide forced mandate vaccination, even for womans waiting for babies, which has been SERIOUSLY proposed, is science fiction stuff INSANE and OPPOSITE to all medical history with an air borne mutating virus like the flu... ( yes i know that it is not the flu)

 

 

I just discover the reason why Fauci just acted like he did...If you analyse the logic behind his gestures and opinions,( it is only my intuition here i can be wrong)

 

He acted like someone knowing perfectly well, what this NEW virus is, where it come from, and for example his changing of stances abour masks and his way to explain why we must not use mask in the beginning correspond to the experience of someone working in TOP LAB 4 virus tech engineering where masks are useless...He change his stance on mask saying that it was a " noble lie" to keep the amount of mask for doctors and nurses but this is not convincing for me...Lying and admitting to lie is NOT in the midst of a pandemy a very good WISE POLITICAL gesture to admit, it is a serious ethical error ....He must have deeper reason to lie and for me it was his complete knowledge of all there is to know from this virus which explasin logically all his gestures...

 

 

For me that explain ALL his gestures: he act like someone who is CONSCIOUS and KNOW he is treating a virus escape from a laboratory. He never did act like a normal doctor in an NATURAL emergency epidemy...

In the case of a dangerous virus escape from a high tech laboratory all these measures make sense:

You circled all the city exposed and ISOLATED it hermetically( like in China)

You confine even the healthy which never occur in a natural virus epidemy coming from natural sources...

You vaxx all people in the city exposed to this risk ...Even asymptomatic and healthy..

You act like in a "war" more than in work field...Then you can push and make the vaxx obligation for the sake of all...

I can be wrong for sure...

It is my intuition, reading facts...And anyway the Chineese also was knowing where the virus comes from; a laboratory and act militarily not at all like normal doctors...

About Fauci imitating the Chineese method in virus escape, his way remind me strongly of someone who act like he knows something no other could know ...Like a criminal participating in his victim disparition traces search expressing some weird gesture...

The worst outcome for a covid infection is for a Black man that is hospitalized in the United States of America.... with all the fantastic cutting edge super medicine available.

Whereas Africa, with it's witch doctors,  has the lowest mortality overall.

🤔🤔🤔

 

Know it alls?

 

Many years ago Dave Letterman and Conan did montages of news channel anchors, as well as those reading the teleprompter to the watching audience THE EXACT SAME reports- WORD FOR WORD! How can that be if news is impartial and honest?

 

Now Read this if you dare to be awakened instead of woke

@MichaelYeadonQ: Hello, I am Former Researcher and Vice-President of Pfizer Inc. You can google me. I was recently banned from Facebook and Twitter so Telegram is currently the best and most secure communication app so I’ll share here, everything that they denied me. But first, I would like to ask you to share my channel so that as many people possible can gather here. In 7 days i will start sharing SECRET documents, human trials and everything Pfizer Inc. has been hiding from the public. If you are prepared for the truth, JOIN and SHARE this post everywhere you can.

“As the World Health Organization has made very clear about the side effects of vaccines and medicines, experimental vaccines against Covid-19 appear to be more dangerous than any other. It can’t be hidden! But politicians and mainstream media don’t care.

Each drug and each vaccine may have an adverse drug reaction (NLR). It is ok. And usually the benefits of a drug or vaccine out weigh the potential harm. Everything else doesn’t make sense. Isn’t it? However, new data from the World Health Organization (WHO) calls into question, at least, the serious benefits of an experimental vaccine against Covid-19. It is quite unlikely that the mainstream media will publish this data. This is due to the fact that they contradict the generally accepted opinion that these experimental vaccines are “safe”.

And now the “highlight of the program”: an experimental vaccine against Covid-19. A vaccine that does not protect against SARS-CoV-2 infection and does not even prevent the spread of the virus. WHO has also collected data on this. Result: 2,457,386 reported cases of side effects. Since 2020.

The list of registered side effects is also very long (in the appendix below)

In general, one may wonder why politics continues to rely so heavily on mandatory vaccination. On the one hand, we have side effects like no other vaccine or medicine, on the other hand, the rudimentary protective effect lasts only a few months. Is it really worth it? And we didn’t even mention the numerous “sudden and unexpected” deaths that the media and obituaries are filling today.

When you look at the long list of side effects in such a short time when using experimental Covid vaccines, you also realize that the situation with deaths as a result of this does not look much better. We are also talking about the longer-term consequences of death, for example, in myocarditis. The main side effect of mRNA vaccines. About 40 percent of the injured die from the consequences within ten years. This means that these cases are not yet included in the data on vaccination deaths. If they are included at all. But neither politics nor the mainstream media are interested in this.”

Just clicking on the thumbnails in mahgister’s system profile tell me everything I need to know about this dude....wtf!  😂🤣😳

 

Totally normal stuff

@anotherbob 

 

Yale... really? Home of Skull and Bones. And you think they are reporting the truth?

Dude....Rate of hospitalization for Covid is .87%...add in the number of co morbidities to that, and it is only the very sick and old that have bad reactions to it.

You guys out here acting like you are fighting Ebola or the Bubonic plague.

I have a higher chance of getting hit by Lightning, than I do of ending up in your hospitals because of Covid.. So please peddle your rhetoric to someone that isn’t paying attention to the statistics.

Calm down with the Fear Porn...I thought you were supposed to be a medical professional.

 

Also the 3rd leading cause of Death being a Dumb Doctor, is straight from John Hopkins...Don’t attack the Messenger.

 

My goodness. This guy’s posts are right out of the anti-vaxxer/vaccine-resistant playbook. You’ll see exactly the same style of downplaying COVID posting leading up to the deaths of these poor people:

 

Nothing to see here, after all it's Bitchute. How ignorant of the facts people are posting such nonsense about its newsworthiness. Yes there are SOME wackos posting there, but the truth is there too. If you're trying to stop watchin nonsense reporting  stop watching TV news channels

 

A stunning 5 minute death compilation of Athletes from the vaccine. Safe and effective my ass.

https://www.bitchute.com/video/J1AELBCYv7i3/

@tweak1 Wake me up in 7 days when these "secret documents" are shared. BTW you ever notice documents like these will be shared in the future not right now?

The reverse is true for me about you and  your personal attack post ..

how old are you to be thinking like a toddler in a schoolyard?

 

Just clicking on the thumbnails in mahgister’s system profile tell me everything I need to know about this dude....wtf!  😂🤣😳

 

@prof  Citing real facts about covid is definitely downplaying it. How dare that antivaxxer tell the non exxagerated truth. Stuff like that should be illegal.

Thank you for letting us know that he is an evil realist 😱😱

Now i will go hide under my blanket and only come out after I get my 5th booster 💉💉💉💉💉

prof you must know that classifying people in 2 groups labels like in audio war, subjectivist and objectivist is pure non sense...

You must know that speaking with people is possible when we act without personal attack, and putting labels on people like vaxx versus anti vaxx..

Even when people are wrong, we must suppose they search for truth, and we must not put them in a circus of 2 warring labels that made no sense at all..

my wife is vaxx and accept all flu viruses... I take none...

My goodness. This guy’s posts are right out of the anti-vaxxer/vaccine-resistant playbook. You’ll see exactly the same style of downplaying COVID posting leading up to the deaths of these poor people:

Thinking exclude labelling inflation...

 

For example , suppose i act like you just did saying that your post is pure exemple of PRO-VAXX at all cost for everyone at the cost of be fired from their jobs, and suppose i put in your mouth even the insane decision to try the vaxx on pregant woman...

Suppose i did that and mock you WITHOUT ARGUMENTS IN MY POST like if my position was PURE truth...

How to discuss with working brain after that labelling? Insults come second after that..like the idiot who insult me after your post...

Why not aligning sane arguments in favor of our own opinion and not attack others for their OWN FREE CHOICE...

Why not analyzing together the REAL SITUATION....

Whereas Africa, with it's witch doctors,  has the lowest mortality overall.

Anyone care to park this one in the cheap seats?

 

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/33075535/

 COVID-19 continues to spread worldwide, with high numbers of fatalities reported first in China, followed by even higher numbers in Italy, Spain, the UK, the USA, and other advanced countries. Most African countries, even with their less advanced healthcare systems, continue to experience lower COVID-19 mortality rates. This was the case as the pandemic reached its first peak, plateaued, and declined. It is currently rising again in some countries, though not as rapidly as before. This study aimed to determine the predictors of COVID-19 mortality rate. This may help explain why Africa's COVID-19 mortality rate is, ironically, lower than that of more advanced countries with better health systems. This will also assist various governments in balancing their COVID-19 restrictive and socioeconomic measures.

I think it must be the racist Doctors/Nurses in the US, hating that black man. God Damn white supremacy, we should poll all the doctors on audiogon...how many have a personal collection of KKK Hoods.

 

The coronavirus pandemic is having an impact all over the world, but a disturbing trend is evident in the U.S.: People of color, particularly African Americans, are experiencing more serious illness and death due to COVID-19 than white people.

Just clicking on the thumbnails in mahgister’s system profile tell me everything I need to know about this dude....wtf! 😂🤣😳

 

H-o-l-y...S.....T !

I never saw that before. He must be roomates with Geoff Kait.

I mean, to each his own, but suddenly, it explains so much....

@prof I will make sure to leave you my dying testimony about my changed vaccine views. How should it go??

I wish I took the vaccine, I repent.

Can I please take the vaccine now? Is it too late?

Please take the vaccine, don’t be me, I am a dumb evil antivaxxer, Russian disninformation is directly responsible for my death?

 

Is that good? If you have any suggestions, I can add other lines to the script.

Maybe we can turn this into an advertising campaign...... oh .....just like constantly bombard people with the same story over and over and over again......that might be good don’t you think?

@nnicola:

"I think Ron's video is a pretty strong argument for getting vaccinated, even though he does not explicitly state that."

 

Based strictly upon his words, Ron's message could be interpreted as " This terrible thing has happened, out of the blue, to our family and there was nothing we could've done about it", as if there had been no advance warning and no possible strategy for avoiding or minimizing the impacts.And the responses I've read on youtube have been largely in this same vein. 

I don't know the guy so I have no idea what he might be thinking but not saying. There was certainly no explicit acknowledgment that he could have handled it differently -- that he chose to ignore the advice of the great majority of health practitioners, world-wide and in so doing, brough this calamity down upon himself and his loved ones. 

Given that he's suffered significantly, one might think, for the sake of other families who are anti-vax, Ron might be inclined to make a far less ambivalent statement. Perhap he is still too "shell-shocked" to think of anyone else or perhaps he's still convinced he made the right decision, like the Covid patients dying in  ICU's who still refuse the vaccine. To say the degree to which he side-stepped the massive "elephant in the room" was "striking" would be, from my perspective, an understatement. 

I hope that what you suggest is indeed true-- that his video may serve as a "strong argument for getting vaccinated" -- but based upon the virulence and quantity of anti-vax posts on this thread, I have my doubts. 

 

 

My wife- 60 years old with serious asthma problems, a clear comirbidity, got tested after vaca in SC and before visiting anyone here, positive for Covid-19, zero symptoms, well past 10 day hiding period.

Me- 65 years old in an age group where Covid is most likely to pose a threat, got tested prior to going to a family event and a large indoor public event, positive for Covid, zero symptoms into my 7th day of the 10 day hiding period.

'Both of us fully vaccinated, including boosters.  Take it for what you will, I'm calling it success.

And to think this is an Audio forum?

“There is a cult of ignorance in the United States, and there has always been. The strain of anti-intellectualism has been a constant thread winding its way through our political and cultural life, nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that 'my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge.” Isaac Asimov

yuviarora

 

That’s as good a start as any.

 

Occaisionally an anti-vaxxer/resistant person in ICU or before dying of covid realize they made a dumb mistake. But given how far down the rabbit hole many go, plenty dig in their heels right to the end. And then instead of taking any lesson whatsoever from it, often their friends and family say something along the lines of "We all admire George. He made a Free Choice, so no one should judge him, and we all admire him sticking to his principles."

As if Dumb Choices are automatically glorified under the banner "Freedom!"

Don’t be George.

 

 

Prof i know you are an honest dude and i really know four sure you have good heart..

But you intelligence level dont impress me sorry...

Insulting for the sake of insulting reveal severe limitation...

H-o-l-y...S.....T !

I never saw that before. He must be roomates with Geoff Kait.

I mean, to each his own, but suddenly, it explains so much....

 

mahgister,

Thanks, and thanks for your comment in my other thread.

But, please excuse me:   I'm still a bit in shock ;-)

These photos are old..

My audio dedicated room was the seat of my listening experiments in acoustic..

It is now finished..

My audio system only with HOMEMADE and peanuts costs materials is now with an S.Q. remarkable AT NO COST....And by the way I sell nothing save creativity then dont assimilate me with anyone for the sake of insulting me...

My main device is an idea born from Helmholtz research and method: a mechanical equalizer FOR ROOM/SPEAKERS INTERACTION fine tunable with modification of the dimensions of the different resonators or diffusers ( more than 40 helmholtz reraonators located at precise spot to control the room by a new distribution of zones pressure in accordance with my specific speakers which first frontwaves are GUIDED to each of my ears with asymmetric position of the resonators according to the first wave front law in psycho-acoustic).I tuned the resonators for my room like a piano tuner tune a piano...

Then i will appreciate you dont mock "wise" people labor to align with a blind consumer ,perhaps an idiot it seems to me with this first contact , who just mock my room past photos... it is called "straw man" argument to be polite here...

My room is sillier now anyway and will be easy to mock especially for people who walk with "no clue" in life...By the way...

Did you have " clue" in life or mocking other is a hobby? i think you are a very honest person...Dont apologize i will myself smile at the look of a room like that...But i will not use that to mock publicly the owner that is the difference...

Who laugh the last with my S.Q. results do you think?

In life circonstances only simple mind judge on appearance without thinking... If it become habits the simple mind become an idiot...

 

mahgister,

Thanks, and thanks for your comment in my other thread.

But, please excuse me: I’m still a bit in shock ;-)

I’m vaccinated, I’ve been all over the world. I’ve seen people resist malaria treatment. Malaria, SUCKS. I’ve seen countries with bad water and the nasty effects on the locals. Usually detergent, chemical and bio contamination.

SARS is very communicable so is hepatitus, I don’t want either, so I protect myself from both. I don’t swim in water unless it is LIVE, and NO water is consumed unless it is treated, below 2800 feet. I wear a mask and wash my hands, just like every doctor and nurse that hasen’t been vacinated and didn’t get sick..

It is HOW you treat YOURSELF not others.. My hands very seldom touch my face.

I agree there are a few animals that need to be put behind the fence. Unfortunality behind the fence in the US just means the OTHER side of the WALL.

Our prisons are jam packed full of people that need to be put to work, some to never see the light of day, and a WHOLE bunch that probably shouldn’t be there. They should be turned over to the families they harmed. There are a very few that just got railroaded.. General Tommy Franks was one "The Hurricane" was another and Ollie North was 25 cent’s shy of being a little Castro.. Say what you will.. Him and Rummie Ronnie Reagan were NUTS with power.. Voice of Americanisum my A$$.

Biggest crack pot to ever enter that office of the United States.. Obama was a close second.. I’ll bet he wished he didn’t know anyone with the last name of Clinton. He was a close 3rd, BUT I did make good money during the last 4 years of Clinton after 12 years nutty Ronnie and Poppa Bush (I really liked him) Baby Bush, NOT so much.. Dick Cheney. The most powerfull president of our time, that wasn’t a president. LOL Bunker Dick Cheney..

Who else stays in the ol buncker? Surely for a different reason, Can’t remember where the White House is.. LOL Walkin around eatin’ CBD that don’t get you loaded (YUK YUK) and start bumpin his head again. Poor Joey.

Regards

The discourse of intelligent people and stupid one is not evident from the content sometimes not even sometimes from the arguments used in the discussion,  but the discourse of intelligent people  is  ALWAYS evidence manifested by  the absence of insults...

Well said Master M. Well said..

 

No need to pee in the soup pot, that every one shares.. :-)

 

Regards

@prof,

Below the belt and points deducted ... you might wanna look out for that TKO ....

uncalled-for