Ok.. I think I understand that no fuse is better than a cheap fuse. And a good fuse is better than a cheap fuse. But is no fuse better than the best fuse?
One person on Audiogon said that he achieved better sound by using a Blue fuse over no fuse. I guess my question is... Do these new, high dollar fuses just allow the current to flow better with solid protection or do they actually due to quantum physics or something, actually improve upon the signal by eliminating errant bad electrons and thereby actually improving the music over no fuse at all?
The following is so laughably incorrect, I don't know whether the poster was honestly communicating what they believe or if they were trolling.
This is wrong. It is not open to debate (unless you have no clue how electricity works). Of course energy is transferred in both directions. That is why power supply ripple is NOT at 60Hz, it is at 120Hz (or 100Hz). Again, not remotely open to debate and easily confirmed. If there is 60Hz noise that is being injected directly into the signal, not from power supply ripple.
Signed, "Someone who actually does this for a living."
"You can ignore the current traveling in the direction away from the speakers, I.e., toward the wall, since that direction of current flow is not (rpt not) audible. The only direction that’s audible for any wire is the one toward the speakers. It is the speakers that ultimately produce the sound you hear. So, it’s the “quality” of the current traveling toward the speakers that is the issue. That’s why fuses sound better in one direction, worse in the other direction in AC circuits and DC circuits. As Old Blue Eyes sez, that’s life. "
My amp manufacturer heard his/my amps with the SR Blue fuses (a huge skeptic about fuses until comparing bussman to SR Blues) and said he would do one better. He replaced his amp fuses with circuit breakers (5 amp). However, they were NOS 40 years old and untested so he is gambling but knows how to repair his equipment (I don’t). His amps sounded terrific. At least as good as my Blue fused amps. I will now try the SR Orange fuses particularly because they reportedly sound better than broken in SR Blues right out of the box. My pre-amp and phono pre do not use fuses at all. Nothing's blown in over 15 years and they use sub-miniature, 100,000 hour rated tubes. Yeah!
I used to buy fancy Synergistics Red and Black fuses.. My new gear is a Pair of PS Audio Stellar M700’s with a Schiit Freya Preamp.. I’m happy to say that both companies make the Fuses inaccessible to the consumer.. Thank goodness..
That’s actually not really true. We know exactly how free electrons move in a conductor and what their function is. It’s not really quantum mechanical. It’s plain old everyday physics. Free electrons are charge carriers and they move back and forth along with the current 🔛 but at a snail’s pace. 🐌 We even know exactly their velocity. It’s about a meter an hour. It’s not rocket science. 🚀 If you want to talk about something quantum mechanical you need look 👀 no further than the CD laser. It all comes back to the single and double slit experiments.
Just noticed, my moniker was mentioned. Referring back to my first post: while subatomic particles(pick one) have been detected, their paths traced, their mass determined and even some created, "no one has ever been able to actually observe(as in seen, viewed or watched) the ways electrons function." That’s WHY the study of such is called, ’Particle/Quantum/Atomic/etc Theory’. Any scientist should recognize the foolishness, of making(attempted) categorical statements based on theories(ie: Band Gap Theory/QED/Electrical/etc). I've never met a scientist, that I've found dissuading others from experimenting/learning for themselves.
Blue fuses soak up all the errant Blu Ray radiation. This collection of rays ionizes the discrete electrons (Think about that!) forming analog signals, which allows the fuse to turn the alternating current into a collection of waves rather than electrons. After receiving the Nobel prize for his work on the photoelectric effect, Einstein posted a YouTube video about it.
I hear chatter about fuses. I check my equipment, and find out I need eight fuses. Too much money. More than for my entire vintage system. So I get pissed, upset. Then I go online in revenge to all audiophile groups I can find denouncing fuses as snake oil
lol, that's why I just buy the equipment which sounds right to my ears, and don't need (or want) to think (or worry) about all of the above. Nevertheless, this thread has a certain entertainment value... (well, at least to me...)
Thought it would be difficult for this thread to sink any deeper than it already had but just proves I know Jack! Now wallowing in the primordial ooze!
Ok.. I think I understand that no fuse is better than a cheap fuse. And a good fuse is better than a cheap fuse. But is no fuse better than the best fuse?
One person on Audiogon said that he achieved better sound by using a Blue fuse over no fuse. I guess my question is... Do these new, high dollar fuses just allow the current to flow better with solid protection or do they actually due to quantum physics or something, actually improve upon the signal by eliminating errant bad electrons and thereby actually improving the music over no fuse at all?
I gots to know!
band gaps and electrons are a given state no mater what their emprisoned matter-copper,lead,nicrome etc. this is told in the mobility of carriers/hple well known by ant semiconductor engineer. its not a guess what will cause an electron to jump the band gap. you know mosfets,igbts etc work on that principal. just being near a pure neturon doped semiconductor will turn on the "jump" with its induced capacirave charge just like a touch screen reacts to the finger charge being near it " one of my patents" of the 80s so the effeft of solid mechanical fuses and such is so riducakky insuffiginant its pathetlic. you have more change from the daily air pressure atmospheric transmittance of the sound wave to your ear than a space man in a pressurized capusul. and ps my dad did the apollo programs human interaction with sensors with Grumman and rayethon.
ps rodman9999 some of us have observed electrons doing their thing in particle accelerators like the brookhaven national light synchatrom light source by counting them and their brother protons and neturons. its not quantom as you think. we can indeed account for every single electron and its charge hence its work performed on its elemental counterpart. dont mess with physist. spelling i know
If by "tuning" you mean helping a component reach a sound you prefer by applying additional tweaks, a fuse wouldn’t do this as fuses have no impact on performance if applied properly...rated properly, cleaned...that’s about it. Improvement due to fuse performance is imagined and clearly driven by expectation bias since you might have paid 150 bucks and man...you really want that thing to work as advertised, and you want to see the agreement of other Magic Fuse proponents so you feel better. And hey...maybe you will feel better! Placebos often help people.
amen!!! soo true and twice true in the classic car and race car industry. if its cost me more it must have resulted in a better result. most physical things have a celing of dimesering returns. proven by the govt spending multimillions and finding out a hammer is just a hammer.
If by "tuning" you mean helping a component reach a sound you prefer by applying additional tweaks, a fuse wouldn’t do this as fuses have no impact on performance if applied properly...rated properly, cleaned...that’s about it. Improvement due to fuse performance is imagined and clearly driven by expectation bias since you might have paid 150 bucks and man...you really want that thing to work as advertised, and you want to see the agreement of other Magic Fuse proponents so you feel better. And hey...maybe you will feel better! Placebos often help people.
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