What’s your budget and are you looking for new or used? Where are you located?
Thoughts on DAC option
Current DAC is the original Auralic Vega . This was a HUGE upgrade in sound quality from a Cambridge Audio DAC Magic.
And things are good right now. Well, mostly, it's not like we are generally blessed with freedom from the desire to upgrade!
And now I have an option of a Chord 2qute. My main issue with the current setup is the fatigue on some music. EDM is generally fantastic, however rock is often harsh. Voices are great.
So the question is whether the Chord could smooth off the sharper edges of things.
All feedback gratefully received.
System is:
Sources - PC and Auralic Aries Mini
Amp - Prima Luna Frank Hybrid Integrated
Speakers - Krix Harmonix 2
Interconnects and speaker cables are average but not the biggest factor here from what I can tell.
Speaker performance and interaction with room acoustics have by far the biggest impact on sound quality. You might want to consider getting a measurement microphone and putting the REW program on a laptop. Then run a frequency sweep and review the results. You may be surprised as to how uneven the response is. That can be addressed with acoustic room treatments, adjusting speaker placement, and/or adding room correction. I added room correction to my system and got an improvement in SQ that was well beyond any equipment change I've made. |
There have been many good suggestions so far. In addition, I would experiment with the filter options on the Vega. When I owned one years ago, they definitely could impact the sound. This will not make huge changes, but it's free. You might benefit from a EQ in the system to take down the top end of the Krix by 2-5 dB when you are playing rock. In looking at the graphs in Australian hi-fi, the response, though smoother and flatter than most, does rise by a few dB between 1 kHz and 10 kHz. This definitely could manifest as sounding "harsh" on many current recordings.
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Vega has a pretty decent DAC section and built-in analog preamp designed to minimize distortion and noise. So I agree with all the gentlemen suggesting you leave the Vega as is and focus on the cabling instead. Refining cables to tune the sound is a great approach—it works in my system, though it does cost money. Speaking from my own experience, if someone as frugal as I am doesn’t mind spending on cables, nothing should stop you. When it comes to interconnect cables, DH Labs and Cardas are two affordable brands worth considering. In general, DH Labs’ silver-plated series offers more dynamics and punch in the low end, while Cardas’ pure copper provides a smoother presentation. Both feature gas injection to vacuum the line, reducing dielectric constant and capacitance that sort of good stuff. The choice ultimately comes down to personal taste. Beyond their price point, the law of diminishing returns kicks in—and it’s up to you to decide whether you want to go further down that rabbit hole. |
Thank-you all for your insights, very much appreciated. A few questions to address: Budget is flexible but should be in line with the system as a whole. I'm in New Zealand and the system as a whole is currently sitting around NZD 20k. In terms of cabling / connections: The mini sounds clearer to me, but has more of the issue. The microphone suggestion is something I have been thinking for a while. The room is a known big issue, large, tall ceilings, prone to echoes, odd shape, just about everything you don't want. Measuring would be very revealing. There is a definite base bump at about double the listening distance, and this does smooth things out somewhat. I do wonder whether any changes made to accommodate the bad room could be detrimental to the system in a good room. The Vega filters, interesting, I will try this again. When this was first added to the system I had a play, but couldn't hear any difference. That said, several upgrades have been made since that could reveal this. Each time I feel like the sound is technically better, but somehow less engaging. EQ, I've not explored options for this. Wouldn't know where to start. I'd prefer to find a permanent balance if possible. And a couple of comments that strongly indicate the Chord sound won't be helping things here. The 2Qute is currently sitting at NZD720 with a linear power supply. Tempted to secure it for a second system in the future. The problem with New Zealand is the lack of ability to try before you buy. You either buy and sell again if it isn't a good fit or find someone willing to lend you their gear... Network Filter could be an option for the PC, but the mini is connected via WiFi. Auralic recommend this approach. Output impedance is an interesting question. I don't have answers, but an interesting question! I can only find information on the pre-amp section: |
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You should get a Wi-Fi extender or Mesh system and run an Ethernet cable from that to your streamer as it bypasses the typically cheap Wi-Fi receiver in the streamer and usually results in better sound. You could then also do a trial of something like a Stack SmoothLan filter that might help in your situation. Best of luck. |
@glenmschneider @soix the streamer is close enough to the router to give this a shot. I'll see where this takes me, along with the Vega filters. Google on the way for the smoothlan. @miguelderivero an R2R has been on my mind. May have a route to try before I buy on this one. @fastricky the Tubadour is intriguing. Unfortunately looks like one of the many options i would struggle to see down here at the bottom of the World. Keeping my eyes open though as it sounds very promising for my tastes. Great suggestsuggestia good variety of price points. I do love these forums and the people in them so willing to share their knowledge. Thank-you. |
@incoming Used Tubadours are plentiful on USAudioMart.com, worth the plunge if you're looking for warm analog like tone. |
Much cleaner than a couple of Mullards I tried, that's for sure. Also picked up some pretty well priced Jan Sylvania military spec tubes, but waiting until the Brimars have done their dash. An Audiogon member rated those in his Prima Luna. Which I now realise I put in the description as Frank The amp is actually the EVO 300 Hybrid Integrated - Floyd |
The Audio Mirror Tubadore V is 110v and would need to be modified to run on 240v. Assume the rest of the Tubadore range is the same. From Audio Mirror: It can be converted, but need some soldering inside.
I can convert it if you send it to me.
Vlad
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Good point! |