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The new Synergistic Research BLUE fuses ....
New SR BLUE fuse thread ...
I’ve replaced all 5 of the SR BLACK fuses in my system with the new SR BLUE fuses. Cold, out of the box, the BLUE fuses stomped the fully broken-in SR BLACKS in a big way. As good as the SR BLACK fuses were/are, especially in comparison with the SR RED fuses, SR has found another break-through in fuses.
1. Musicality ... The system is totally seamless at this point. Its as if there is no system in the room, only a wall to wall, front to back and floor to ceiling music presentation with true to life tonality from the various instruments.
2. Extension ... I’ve seemed to gain about an octave in low bass response. This has the effect of putting more meat on the bones of the instruments. Highs are very extended, breathing new life into my magic percussion recordings. Vibes, chimes, bells, and triangles positioned in the rear of the orchestra all have improved. I’ve experienced no roll-off of the highs what so ever with the new BLUE fuses. Just a more relaxed natural presentation.
3. Dynamics ... This is a huge improvement over the BLACK fuses. Piano and vibes fans ... this is fantastic.
I have a Japanese audiophile CD of Flamenco music ... the foot stomps on the stage, the hand clapping and the castanets are present like never before. Want to hear natural sounding castanets? Get the BLUE fuses.
4. Mid range ... Ha! Put on your favorite Ben Webster album ... and a pair of adult diapers. Play Chris Connor singing "All About Ronnie," its to die for.
Quick .... someone here HAS to buy this double album. Its a bargain at this price. Audiophile sound, excellent performance by the one and only Chris Connor. Yes, its mono ... but so what? Its so good you won’t miss the stereo effects. If you’re the lucky person who scores this album, please post your results here.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/ULTRASONIC-CLEAN-The-Finest-Of-CHRIS-CONNOR-Bethlehem-Jazz-1975-NM-UNPLAYED-...
Overall impressions:
Where the RED fuses took about 20 hours to sound their best, and the BLACK fuses took upwards of 200 hours of total break-in, the BLUE fuses sounded really good right out of the box ... and that’s without doing anything about proper directional positioning. Not that the BLUE fuses don’t need breaking in, they do. The improvement continues through week three. Its a gradual break-in thing where each listening session is better than the last.
Everything I described above continues to break new ground in my system as the fuses continue breaking in. Quite honestly, I find it difficult to tear myself away from the system in order to get things done. Its truly been transformed into a magical music machine. With the expenditure of $150.00 and a 30 day return policy there’s really nothing to lose. In my system, its like upgrading to a better pre amp, amp, CD player or phono stage. Highly recommended.
Kudos to Ted Denney and the entire staff at SR. Amazing stuff, guys. :-)
Frank
PS: If you try the SR BLUE fuses, please post your results here. Seems the naysayers, the Debbie Downers and Negative Nellie’s have hijacked the original RED fuse thread. A pox on their houses and their Pioneer receivers.
Frank
I’ve replaced all 5 of the SR BLACK fuses in my system with the new SR BLUE fuses. Cold, out of the box, the BLUE fuses stomped the fully broken-in SR BLACKS in a big way. As good as the SR BLACK fuses were/are, especially in comparison with the SR RED fuses, SR has found another break-through in fuses.
1. Musicality ... The system is totally seamless at this point. Its as if there is no system in the room, only a wall to wall, front to back and floor to ceiling music presentation with true to life tonality from the various instruments.
2. Extension ... I’ve seemed to gain about an octave in low bass response. This has the effect of putting more meat on the bones of the instruments. Highs are very extended, breathing new life into my magic percussion recordings. Vibes, chimes, bells, and triangles positioned in the rear of the orchestra all have improved. I’ve experienced no roll-off of the highs what so ever with the new BLUE fuses. Just a more relaxed natural presentation.
3. Dynamics ... This is a huge improvement over the BLACK fuses. Piano and vibes fans ... this is fantastic.
I have a Japanese audiophile CD of Flamenco music ... the foot stomps on the stage, the hand clapping and the castanets are present like never before. Want to hear natural sounding castanets? Get the BLUE fuses.
4. Mid range ... Ha! Put on your favorite Ben Webster album ... and a pair of adult diapers. Play Chris Connor singing "All About Ronnie," its to die for.
Quick .... someone here HAS to buy this double album. Its a bargain at this price. Audiophile sound, excellent performance by the one and only Chris Connor. Yes, its mono ... but so what? Its so good you won’t miss the stereo effects. If you’re the lucky person who scores this album, please post your results here.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/ULTRASONIC-CLEAN-The-Finest-Of-CHRIS-CONNOR-Bethlehem-Jazz-1975-NM-UNPLAYED-...
Overall impressions:
Where the RED fuses took about 20 hours to sound their best, and the BLACK fuses took upwards of 200 hours of total break-in, the BLUE fuses sounded really good right out of the box ... and that’s without doing anything about proper directional positioning. Not that the BLUE fuses don’t need breaking in, they do. The improvement continues through week three. Its a gradual break-in thing where each listening session is better than the last.
Everything I described above continues to break new ground in my system as the fuses continue breaking in. Quite honestly, I find it difficult to tear myself away from the system in order to get things done. Its truly been transformed into a magical music machine. With the expenditure of $150.00 and a 30 day return policy there’s really nothing to lose. In my system, its like upgrading to a better pre amp, amp, CD player or phono stage. Highly recommended.
Kudos to Ted Denney and the entire staff at SR. Amazing stuff, guys. :-)
Frank
PS: If you try the SR BLUE fuses, please post your results here. Seems the naysayers, the Debbie Downers and Negative Nellie’s have hijacked the original RED fuse thread. A pox on their houses and their Pioneer receivers.
Frank
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@sorlowski Your findings are pretty much in line with mines. Actually, I have first installed a Blue one for the main fuse (the one you can change at the back of the amplifier) about 4 months ago and it made a change very similar to what you experienced. See my earlier posts. Ever since I became a believer that not only a fuse can change to sonic character of a given component, but that furthermore it can make it sound even better. Now convinced that my amplifier still can be improved, I decided to slowly change the fuses one by one as funds allow. I have 2 pre-amp board on my integrated and both of them use 2 fuses each. Do the maths, it's costly. But still, I installed another blue in one of the socket and it made a surprising difference. I was skeptical that by changing only one out of four would bring positive results, but hey, it did. The change it brought by inserting a first fuse was a better bass response, sounds is less bloated and cleaner, and the highs are more lifelike. I just can't wait to hear the difference when I insert the remaining 3. |
Please read to the end. Changing a fuse, not a happy ending. So, I wanted to go another level in my fuse upgrade, on a particular amplifier of mine ( I have many amplifiers ). In this particular case, an ADA PF 2501. Has been working fine for months now, but decided to upgrade to a new, better fuse. Anyway, pushing in slightly, and turning the rear fuse holder 1/4 turn, counter clockwise ( generally all that is needed ), the actual fuse holder appeared loose, and it now had play. Did not think anything of it, as I have upgraded the fuse once before, many years ago. Plugged the amp back in, and nothing. Put the prior fuse in, and nothing. Disconnected the amp, moved the amp to my table ( not easy for me anymore ), opened her up, and noticed the fuse holder was directly mounted to the power supply circuit board, and was now broken loose from it. Too much for me to handle. Called a few local shops in my area, but no one wants to work on it, as I had explained to them the situation. So, this upgradetitus I seem to have ( I am in good company here ), has giving me a very good boat anchor. These ADA amplifiers bring very little money, and when I had gotten it, I got it at a deal, from a customer upgrading his entire system ( a wealthy New Yorker ). Unit was like new, as I had originally installed it. It still is like new. Not a terrible loss. Anyway, I have a question. I have opened many amplifiers throughout my time, to do mods, upgrades, and such. This is the 1st amplifier I ever opened, to my recollection, that has the main power fuse holder, mounted directly to a circuit board, instead of the rear, front, or an internal chassis panel. Anyone have experience with other designs such as this ? Based on my experience here, I think it to be a stupid design, although I understand the " shorter signal path " thing. BTW, I have opened this amp before, as I isolated the HUGE toroidal from the chassis, and never gave this fuse holder design, a 2nd thought. Thank you very much, and...Enjoy ! MrD. |
Thanks, uber.....This ADA thing happened a few months back, but thought I would bring it up now. Unlike speaker fuses and their holders, which I admittedly, bypass often on some older gear, I will never bypass the mains fuse ( fire, danger, etc ). The amp weighs 70 lbs, and I am just not looking forward to lifting it again, at this point. The holder is above the board, and this board is not easy to get to ( at least, not easy for me ). The holder, although loose, is still somehow connected to the board. This is better left to a local ( central FL ), capable technician, who has a strong back, with proper lifting techniques, lol. For an amplifier that retailed at $4K, and is built extremely well, imo, it is a stupid thing to have happened. Enjoy ! MrD. |
I wanted to thank those that read, and responded, to my unfortunate amplifier / fuse story. I did not want to change the direction of this thread, which is a positive one, indicating that a superior built fuse, as small and simple as it might seem, can, and does, make starling improvements in sq, in every device they are installed in. Enjoy ! MrD. |
To all of the SR Blue Fuse guys ... After two years of using the SR Blue fuses, I've been trying something much better. The prototype fuses currently under testing are now fully broken in. They are the best yet by far. So, heads up ... this is your advance notification. They should be on the market sometime around the middle of this month. Price and manufacturer to be announced. Frank |
Well they are here, Orange is the new Blue. Available for $159.95. https://www.synergisticresearch.com/fuses/orange-fuse/ |
Someone should probably help SR out on the how electricity works portion of their description of the new Orange fuse. To whit, “Today physicists understand electrons don’t flow at all but rather propagate in a wave of energy that moves along a conductor with a multitude of factors that alters this wave at the quantum level. To understand how electricity travels without electrons ever leaving their respective atoms it is helpful to consider the spectator ‘wave’ at a football match. Even though you can clearly see a wave pattern moving from spectator to spectator as fans raise and then lower their hands (without hands jumping from one person to the next), so too does electricity ‘move’ without electrons ever leaving their atoms.“ |
Typical sales jargon when selling to audiophiles, first be sure to include the word “quantum” in any context whatsoever, and then dumb things down with an analogy to some unrelated physical phenomenon....like water in a pipe, a dirty pane of glass wiped clean or, indeed, the wave at a football game - that certainly reassures me that my $160 would be well spent. At least they stuck to the game plan.....if it’s not broke, don’t fix it. |
Quantum is a trigger word. Yet there are audio tweaks based on quantum mechanics, especially if you count all the PWB Electronics stuff, you know, the Quantum Clip, the Silver Rainbow Foil, the Red X Pen, etc. Heck, even the CD laser is a quantum mechanical device. Hel-loo! I have 5 or 6 quantum mechanical devices in my line up. If more people understood quantum mechanics there wouldn’t be so much hate in the world. The only thing to fear is fear itself. 🤡 |
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It is very interesting that the Orange fuse thread was closed down for the second time. No explanation or Email notification either. I guess the old adage is true ... "If you are getting a lot of flack, it means that you are over the target." There was nothing offensive, nor were there any personal attacks in the second thread. Just guys discussing audio. Go figure. Frank |
oregonpapaShilling from what I and many others saw, and the same could happen here if you sub it for this one. You just don’t know when to stop. |
georgehifi ... Actually, George, rather than this thread being about fuses, it has morphed into a conversation about your negative attitude, your lack of respect for the other members of this site, and your constant disruptions. In spite of your shallow threats, George, I will continue to post whatever I feel like posting. Question, George ... from where do you derive the authority to become Mister Full-Charge of the Audiogon site? Frank |
In spite of your shallow threatsNo threats, fact. Both your threads were shut down. Keep up the dangerous practices that could harm someone in the end and the shilling, and this one may go the way of the dodo too with a bit of luck. from where do you derive the authority to become Mister Full-Charge of the Audiogon site?I don't, but admin are obviously very aware of sorting out the wheat from the chaff, because in the long run it's not good for their image or maybe some liability letting you coerce the non technical into something as dangerous as playing around with mains fuses, in out in out A/B'ing them forgetting to unplug from the mains just once and then bye bye. |
georgehifi ... You didn't comment on this post in the other fuse thread. Here it is again for your edification: If you were to become a more astute observer, and stow your animosity for a time, you would know that I have started threads on a multitude of products. Did you read my threads on Audio Research products? How about Herbie’s products, or Perfect Path Technologies products? Have you taken advantage of any of the multitude of music recommendations I’ve offered on this site over the years, George? If you were to reverse your telescope, George, you wouldn’t have such a myopic, negative view of the world and your fellow man. Life is good, George. People, in general, are nice, George. Enjoy a sunset, George. Have a good glass of wine, George. Hug your wife, George. Turn your talisman over, George. You can make the decision to have a positive mental attitude in an instant, George, just by turning over the aforementioned talisman from the negative side to the positive side. Once you make that simple decision, you’ll have a much more fruitful and enjoyable life. I sincerely hope to see you shining brightly with a much more positive light in the future, George ... Take care ... Frank |
ok weird they shut down the orange discussion..... its also unfortunate that people do not try things for themselves before venturing an opinion I am not sure if will upgrade at all to orange but certainly have no opinion about it.....hope its universally well liked ...... I found upgrading to black fuse was no brainer... i then upgraded to blue and liked it better to (but did feel slight trade off) I am getting greater benefit from room tweaking as I feel most audiophiles do not appreciate that the room is probably at least half the battle.... I might still go Orange but my equipment bit of pain to replace fuses so will wait for now |
My main problem with changing fuses and duplexes are the bad sound until they are broken in. The red to black duplex sounded great, the black to blue was not so nice with a harder, brighter sound from the blue until about a week after it was installed. The red to black fuse was not good either with bad sound from 15 to 72 hours from the black fuse. Contrary to the duplex, the blue fuse sounded better than the broken in black fuse immediately. I'm glad to hear that the orange fuse sounds better than the blue immediately too. Next is the orange duplex. Who knows when and then the purple of each. I don't mind the improvements so long as I don't have to suffer bad sound for 72 hours or a week until the sound returns to good/better than before. I'm glad to read that Robert heard the Stop-Its prior to their proper curing and thought they were a step back at the beginning. Now the Stop-Its sold as cured should sound good immediately or soon after insertion. I'll have to try those next. |
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fleschler are you taking the p**s or are you for real, your very good and I doffs me hat to ya if taking the p**s. But a seriously bent individual and in desperate need of help if your saying this c**p is for real. Cheers George |
georgehifi ... Never, in the entire history of A'gon has any member passed a .38 pistol through his/her computer and held it to your head in order to force you to enter a thread and read it. If you are offended by certain topics, or the opinions of certain members, just don't click on them. Your disruptions and swarmy insults are getting mighty old. Frank |
Frank, Just a few of questions about your experience with the Orange fuses. I assume your previous Blue fuses were treated with TC? Did you swap in the Oranges without TC treatment? You said the Oranges immediately sounded better. Was this untreated Oranges vs. treated Blues? Have you treated the Oranges, and, if so, have you noticed further improvement? Thanks, Tom |
tommylion ... No, I haven’t pasted the Orange fuses yet. The Blue fuses were pasted. So, everything reported so far has been with untreated Orange fuses vs treated Blue fuses. So ... I suspect another improvement when I treat the Orange fuses. Funny thing ... the Orange fuses are so good, I hadn't thought about treating them until you brought it up. Frank |