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The new Synergistic Research BLUE fuses ....

New SR BLUE fuse thread ...

I’ve replaced all 5 of the SR BLACK fuses in my system with the new SR BLUE fuses. Cold, out of the box, the BLUE fuses stomped the fully broken-in SR BLACKS in a big way. As good as the SR BLACK fuses were/are, especially in comparison with the SR RED fuses, SR has found another break-through in fuses.

1. Musicality ... The system is totally seamless at this point. Its as if there is no system in the room, only a wall to wall, front to back and floor to ceiling music presentation with true to life tonality from the various instruments.

2. Extension ... I’ve seemed to gain about an octave in low bass response. This has the effect of putting more meat on the bones of the instruments. Highs are very extended, breathing new life into my magic percussion recordings. Vibes, chimes, bells, and triangles positioned in the rear of the orchestra all have improved. I’ve experienced no roll-off of the highs what so ever with the new BLUE fuses. Just a more relaxed natural presentation.

3. Dynamics ... This is a huge improvement over the BLACK fuses. Piano and vibes fans ... this is fantastic.

I have a Japanese audiophile CD of Flamenco music ... the foot stomps on the stage, the hand clapping and the castanets are present like never before. Want to hear natural sounding castanets? Get the BLUE fuses.

4. Mid range ... Ha! Put on your favorite Ben Webster album ... and a pair of adult diapers. Play Chris Connor singing "All About Ronnie," its to die for.

Quick .... someone here HAS to buy this double album. Its a bargain at this price. Audiophile sound, excellent performance by the one and only Chris Connor. Yes, its mono ... but so what? Its so good you won’t miss the stereo effects. If you’re the lucky person who scores this album, please post your results here.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/ULTRASONIC-CLEAN-The-Finest-Of-CHRIS-CONNOR-Bethlehem-Jazz-1975-NM-UNPLAYED-...

Overall impressions:

Where the RED fuses took about 20 hours to sound their best, and the BLACK fuses took upwards of 200 hours of total break-in, the BLUE fuses sounded really good right out of the box ... and that’s without doing anything about proper directional positioning. Not that the BLUE fuses don’t need breaking in, they do. The improvement continues through week three. Its a gradual break-in thing where each listening session is better than the last.

Everything I described above continues to break new ground in my system as the fuses continue breaking in. Quite honestly, I find it difficult to tear myself away from the system in order to get things done. Its truly been transformed into a magical music machine. With the expenditure of $150.00 and a 30 day return policy there’s really nothing to lose. In my system, its like upgrading to a better pre amp, amp, CD player or phono stage. Highly recommended.

Kudos to Ted Denney and the entire staff at SR. Amazing stuff, guys. :-)

Frank

PS: If you try the SR BLUE fuses, please post your results here. Seems the naysayers, the Debbie Downers and Negative Nellie’s have hijacked the original RED fuse thread. A pox on their houses and their Pioneer receivers.

Frank



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teo_audio
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The ’blowtorch’ thread over at DIY audio was and is full of audio designers. Fuses and circuit breakers were and are topics of discussion.

Circuit breakers are preferred due to their ’least’ level of sonic interference.

Fuses end up being the item of choice due to the manufacturers, not the designers. Fuses and fuse holders are much less expensive than circuit breakers.

Since one has never heard the amplifier they own with circuit breakers instead of fuses..the question remains...but as a question that is non existent, unrealized, unasked.

Thus the manufacturer saves the money or costs of 4/5/etc circuit breakers of optimum quality, per standard amplifier, as they only have to buy and install fuses and fuse holders. Fuses...which don’t have failure modes like circuit breakers might....and any circuit breaker problems (ie, unknowns, and we don't want unknowns) stay off the manufacturer's plate of after sale issues.
teo_audio
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wolf, It is suggested that you don't really know the mechanics or the electrical aspects of how a fuse works. At least this is what your text on the matter is clearly indicating.

the audibility of a fuse or one fuse type compared to another, is made plain by an analysis of a fuse's function, with regard to electrical distortions and the nature of said electrical distortions.

If you can't grasp this, have the human decency to stop attacking others over this self admitted (via the nature of the text) set of points.

Those who do know how it works and what it does, owe you nothing.

Especially if the working in such areas of fuse design and development, reaps financial rewards..and if that data and lore is shared, the understandings go wide.. and the financial well dries up... due to over-expansion in the supplier end of the market.

Basically, look around you and try to lose the personal illiteracy of the scope of the situation --and you might just get somewhere.
teo_audio
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One has to try and remember that Georgehifi’s claim to fame... the thing that puts him on the map... is actually something more obscure and less measurable than a fuse ---by a long shot.

That his claim to fame is tied to something that would pretty well defy measurement, yet the audibility of the function of a fuse, audiophile or otherwise ~~can~~ be measured. And is measured. Big time.

His name is out there due to the optical potentiometer trick, being popularized by him.

This is a really odd scenario, where the ’fuse denier’ is also a hardcore believer in something extremely similar ----but notably more obscure. Notably less measurable.

Could someone please tell us how this bizarrely two sided bit works, as I’m having a spell of trouble with it.
teo_audio
2,197 posts
 
I don't even have a dog in this fight.

I'm here as the idea that a fuse's distortions and effects are inaudible in an audio amplifier is extremely laughable. Absurd.
teo_audio
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If one was to run a fuse, any of the types of fuses here in this thread being speculated on..any fuse of that size/type...under complex loads, through a complex set of distortion measurements on a audio precision system , lets say, an SYS-2722...and run a whole plethora of tests, on a hundred different fuses..a pattern of distortion measurements would be the result.

high order odd harmonic distortions.

The human ear is VERY sensitive to odd order harmonic distortion.

Again, this is the distortion pattern a fuse exhibits under the highly dynamic load that a piece of audio equipment puts the fuse under.

It is so well known, so well documented in the realm of expected fuse behavior... that an engineer of fuses and an engineer of audio equipment would look at you like you had three illiterate heads if you asked a question of it being measurable or noticeable in it’s effect on an audio amplifier.

Fuses, under dynamic loading conditions, exhibit high order odd harmonic distortion in how they deal with the current and voltage load.

the end.

High end audio fuses, do their best to eliminate or negate those expected distortions as much as is possible, so they are less audible.

I don’t buy high end fuses myself, I go for long time lag fuses (10kA flash break point), non magnetic ones with ceramic bodies, and that is as close as I can get to an expensive audiophile fuse with a custom designed filament, but... for about $3-5 each. This is the most linear distorting fuse you can get to without going ’audiophile’ and expensive. I’d even wager that the fuses that are cheap in the audio world, might just be made by these given companies like cooper-bussman, schurter (germany), SOC of Japan, and so on.

I can do this myself, but don’t recommend that others do it without research, as you can’t just stick any fuse in a socket, as you can easily invalidate the warranty and the safety of the device. No random fuse changes, just cause it sounds better.
teo_audio
2,197 posts
 
DID TOO!!

DID NOT!!

DID TOO x 10!!

DID NOT x 100!!


Ok, done.

We can all go home now.
teo_audio
2,197 posts
 
Leaving the thread with dignity and grace so it can be left behind - involves not taking one last stab at people before exiting...while trying to look like one is fair and above board. :P
teo_audio
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From the Yanni vs laurel thread:
My post was hinting about how there is likely going to be a strong correlation in the fuse and cable debate, and where that person stands in the fuse/cable debate..vs whether they hear yanni or laurel.

I suspect that some minimal majority at the least, of the fuse ’non believers’ will be of the laurel type.

That some minimal majority of some sort, that hear yanni, will be of the fuse believing type.

If there isn’t then that will also explain another critical point, one that is slightly deeper in the puzzle vs proofing game..
Ie, if the proposition is wrong than that is just one more excellent data point that is just as useful.
Time for a poll?
It has to be done now, while there are enough people looking.

teo_audio
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To describe the function of Teo Audio’s liquid metal audio cables, one has to go to quantum. QED, in fact. Literally. Science fact. Too bad, so sad....

..and that’s the trigger for the day. 

Anyone? Bueller... Bueller... Bueller?


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