I’ve replaced all 5 of the SR BLACK fuses in my system with the new SR BLUE fuses. Cold, out of the box, the BLUE fuses stomped the fully broken-in SR BLACKS in a big way. As good as the SR BLACK fuses were/are, especially in comparison with the SR RED fuses, SR has found another break-through in fuses.
1. Musicality ... The system is totally seamless at this point. Its as if there is no system in the room, only a wall to wall, front to back and floor to ceiling music presentation with true to life tonality from the various instruments.
2. Extension ... I’ve seemed to gain about an octave in low bass response. This has the effect of putting more meat on the bones of the instruments. Highs are very extended, breathing new life into my magic percussion recordings. Vibes, chimes, bells, and triangles positioned in the rear of the orchestra all have improved. I’ve experienced no roll-off of the highs what so ever with the new BLUE fuses. Just a more relaxed natural presentation.
3. Dynamics ... This is a huge improvement over the BLACK fuses. Piano and vibes fans ... this is fantastic.
I have a Japanese audiophile CD of Flamenco music ... the foot stomps on the stage, the hand clapping and the castanets are present like never before. Want to hear natural sounding castanets? Get the BLUE fuses.
4. Mid range ... Ha! Put on your favorite Ben Webster album ... and a pair of adult diapers. Play Chris Connor singing "All About Ronnie," its to die for.
Quick .... someone here HAS to buy this double album. Its a bargain at this price. Audiophile sound, excellent performance by the one and only Chris Connor. Yes, its mono ... but so what? Its so good you won’t miss the stereo effects. If you’re the lucky person who scores this album, please post your results here.
Where the RED fuses took about 20 hours to sound their best, and the BLACK fuses took upwards of 200 hours of total break-in, the BLUE fuses sounded really good right out of the box ... and that’s without doing anything about proper directional positioning. Not that the BLUE fuses don’t need breaking in, they do. The improvement continues through week three. Its a gradual break-in thing where each listening session is better than the last.
Everything I described above continues to break new ground in my system as the fuses continue breaking in. Quite honestly, I find it difficult to tear myself away from the system in order to get things done. Its truly been transformed into a magical music machine. With the expenditure of $150.00 and a 30 day return policy there’s really nothing to lose. In my system, its like upgrading to a better pre amp, amp, CD player or phono stage. Highly recommended.
Kudos to Ted Denney and the entire staff at SR. Amazing stuff, guys. :-)
Frank
PS: If you try the SR BLUE fuses, please post your results here. Seems the naysayers, the Debbie Downers and Negative Nellie’s have hijacked the original RED fuse thread. A pox on their houses and their Pioneer receivers.
wolf_garcia Fake question? I expect a more reasoned response even from pseudo experts like Kaitty…head injury indeed. What I don’t expect at this point after repeatedly asking about it is one of the manufacturers of "special" fuses mentioning anywhere what they were after even at the early stages of design…before implementing whatever they were planning to do with a half inch of tiny wire, they must have been thinking about how and why this might help the resolution of a system…although marketing (A fuse for 150 bucks! 30 day return policy…YEAH THAT’S IT) is likely to have come first…so my "fake" question remains unanswered regardless of Kaitty’s silly unhinged and unsophisticated responses.
So, I was right! It was a head injury. But seriously, Wolfie, your question has been answered a great many times. God gave you two listening ears and one mouth for a reason. - Judge Judy
Nope. The question has NEVER been answered…the fact is that fuses don't make anything better (and if you think they do, how and why can they?), they are designed to melt, the characteristics of anything with a fuse aren't transformed by the fuse actually NOT blowing, and to believe hyperbole claiming otherwise is naive. Kaitty keeps saying my question has been answered a "great many times" but actually can't actually say what those answers might be…the nurse should at least wheel him nearer a window…loosen the restraints…something...
A surge protector, with it's MOVs, is only in the A/C path and yet it has negative effects on the sound. If you can't agree with that, then go ahead and think fuses have no impact on the sound.
Wolf I will agree with you that science cannot explain it, you maybe cannot measure it either. But there is a whole raft of crap in this world that science cannot explain! Or if you do not believe that then all of this is falling on deaf ears to be sure. I have said it before and it seems I have to say it again. I HAVE NO IDEA WHY FUSES HAVE THE SQ IMPACT THEY DO IN MY SYSTEM BUT THEY DO! Additionally I truly DO NOT CARE EITHER!
It is not "expectation bias" I mean $120? cmon lets get real, that’s peanuts in this hobby! $10000, maybe I can see people forcing themselves to believe it worked but $120 with a 30 day return policy, no way!
What?! Whoa! We have a break in ranks! You’re not supposed to agree with him. That’s giving comfort to the enemy. Besides, science CAN explain it. That’s how NASA developed high end fuses for the space game twenty years ago. Hel-loo! Wake up and smell the coffee. ☕️
Wolf, you obviously made geoff all upset and uppity when you asked if anyone has made a graphene hat yet. The thought of him having to replace his aluminum brim obviously resulted in this latest, how to say it, attack on you.
Wolf I have no issue with you at all but..... $120(at black fuse) is not even pocket change in all honesty so it has zero expectation bias or placebo effect in me whatsoever.
So why do you have to try to insult my intelligence?
I was one of the biggest sceptics on this planet for tweaks etc. Until I manned up and bought a couple fuses to try as with return policy how can u go wrong?
And I HEAR the difference, end of story.
No placebo No expectation bias No BS
you cannot hear a difference and I respect that. But your seemingly absolute refusal to accept how anybody else possibly can is the real insult here .
I believe that nearly everyone has an expectation for favorable results when frying a new audio product (or why buy it to begin ?). I’ve had to return products that didn’t impress me once in my system and get a refund. I’m sure this has been the case for others as well, not every purchase provides a positive sonic outcome.
My attitude toward upgrade fuses was to give them a try and and just listen. It worthwhile they stay and if not they go back and my money is returned. . A simple proposition. In my system they yielded an improvement in sound quality with 3 separate components. Furthermore reversing the fuse direction revealed a "better" sound quality in one direction compared to the other.
These were my results and I can’t speak to the experiences of others although many posters here have had very similar results. There are listeners who have or will try upgrade fuses and hear little or no difference in sound quality. One person’s outcome doesn’t invalidate another who has a dissimilar outcome. We can only report what we hear.
I can easily accept the opposing listening results of uberwaltz and wolf, they heard what they heard. I would never tell someone else what they hear with their own ears and system and declare it can’t be as they describe, far too presumptuous. Expectation bias can also be skewed toward a negative outcome if one is heavily doubtful (skeptical) as to the merits of the product in question, where their mind is already made up . In audio it always comes down to actually listening and then forming an opinion concerning a particular product. Charles
charles1dad I believe that nearly everyone has an expectation for favorable results when frying a new audio product.
Surely such inopportune Freudian slips as “frying a new product” should be assiduously avoided in threads about fuses. 🤡 Besides, judging from the amount of blowback from skeptics I’m not sure I can agree with the sentiment that nearly everyone has an expectation for favorable results.
Charles Of course I HOPED for positive results based on all of the feedback in this forum, or as you say, why buy anything? However I approached with a completely open mind, at least I hope I did.
Hi uberwaltz, You understand the point I was making. Who'd buy a product with the intention of worsening their sound quality? Yes, an open mind approach and judge the listening experience. Charles
Absolutely Charles. I have indeed purchased cables that although I could not say was anything wrong with them but just did not "fit" my system or my sound at all and unfortunately had to return them. Obviously not what I intended upon purchase! Have not yet stepped up to blue fuse, indeed my present system appears to be devoid of changeable fuses so quite possibly will not be, more is the pity just for my hearing benefit on this cause.
There's a tendency among some (or simply somebody) to "report" to the moderators any post that may disagree with a point of view. I understand that obscene language or unnecessary personal attacks might be seen as inappropriate, I understand the rules, but when an otherwise humorous or perhaps too pointed and possibly satiric post is eliminated because a reader prefers to misuse the moderator's time as a vendetta against a member's posts, that's when things become sort of cowardly. If anyone doesn't like what I post, feel free to respond to me…I can take it…otherwise this forum could be ruined by personally insecure fear based censorship, and I don't think that's what the moderators actually want.
Wolf Your post removal is pretty fresh, it was there still this morning. I have no idea who wasted their time reporting your posts, them being removed and making some threads nonsensical is a big beef of mine tbh.
Yes there is call for some posts to be removed for sure, that one was not on the list imho.
I happen to enjoy wolf’s wit and contributions on this forum. I find it hard to believe that someone would be so offended by his posts and resort to moderator intervention. So he isn’t a supporter of upgrade fuses, big deal, I know they work😊. I like "good"satire. Charles
Well that is interesting indeed. My post just above Charles has been edited, presumably by a mod. I guess is better than being removed but I have never seen one edited by a mod before. Quite odd.....
There are times that I have no idea why some posts have been removed. If it truly is not warranted then it shouldn’t happen. Sometimes it makes me wonder if politics is part of the game?
I’ve recently plead my case to the moderators (I’ve been too lazy at times to bother with some) about how arbitrary and unnecessary it's been that a post of two of mine has been eliminated, and each time I’ve done this they’ve been reinstated. Although I think oregonpapa’s friend Fleshler is clearly a handsome and real smart guy who is also a Wealthy Man (his words), he’s a member who has said he reports people (like me) to the moderators as a matter of course…this trend coincides with his relatively recent appearance on these forums, and I think it’s likely that’s where this is coming from. So to Fleshler I say please stop. Thanks.
I believe that on a forum thread conflicting opinions and viewpoints are to be expected and shouldn't be shunned. At the very core we are all just a collection of music lovers who want good audio systems to improve the home listening experience. Many of us have been accused of succumbing to voodoo and snake oil. I doubt that anyone loses sleep as a result. Each individual determines what works successfully in their respective system.
IMHO no need to be thin skinned or sensitive to opposing points of view. All perspectives should be allowed and readers are free to agree or disagree. Okay time for some "fresh" wolf sarcasm 😊. Charles
Personal attacks do not show "strength." They reveal weaknesses in one's arguments. No one is advocating that opposing opinions should be banned. Not at all. We learn through the give an take in our discussions.
Personal attacks against hocus pocus statements with Electronic Engineering facts is in my view to be encouraged. To stop voodoo’ism from enticing the gullible that have no EE knowledge from being ripped off with snake oil.
Do you "snake oil’ers" really believe you hold a candle to Electronic Engineering principals, which BTW all of your equipment is designed by and uses and is measure and tested with, then listen to and if needed modded and re-tested, measured using the same EE principals again to make sure. The only thing you may be hearing is fuse degradation over time caused by too many switch on surges when equipment is turn on. Just go out and buy a good quality $2 fuse replace it and save your money not purchasing a >$100 voodoo fuse which some of you claim to be directional, another big
Furphy.
I have brought this up several times in the past. I wish there was a way to do a quick tally, vote count, to see how the general readership feels about a topic.
In the end this is just my opinion, but I think the tally would support George's viewpoint over that of the usual gang of vocal tweakers.
There is nothing more pathetic than a mind slammed shut.
Frank
Don't you fusers think that the likes of Nelson Pass, John Curl, Dan D'Agostino ect ect ect would have something to say re >$100 snake oil fuses if they made their products sound better especially when directional'ity is bought into it as well. Or do you fusers think your above them as well.
jetter I have brought this up several times in the past. I wish there was a way to do a quick tally, vote count, to see how the general readership feels about a topic.
In the end this is just my opinion, but I think the tally would support George's viewpoint over that of the usual gang of vocal tweakers.
>>>That’s an excellent question. Having followed the whole fuse evolution for almost twenty years (as well as NASA’s own fuse development that began about the same time) and having been privy to the great many discussions of aftermarket fuses on this and many other audio websites over the years (yes, there are other other web sites, surprising ain’t it?), and having had aftermarket fuses myself (unlike most of the more vociferous skeptics), I think I can say with complete confidence the “score,” as jitter puts it, is around 10,000 to 10, which takes into account the onesies and twosies on this formum who bit the bullet and either bought an aftermarket fuse or were given one to try and didn’t get the same positive results that the other 10,000 or so got. I guess we’ll have to file that under, That’s the Way it Goes Sometimes. Sorry to burst anyone’s balloon. 🎈Or to cause anyone to suddenly develop a brain aneurysm. 🧠
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