The point is methodology, not that prices increase. You're assumption that I should let things go that I can't control is off topic. If a business chooses to increase prices, do it right, do it with transparency, and don't conflict marketing information at your own point-of-sale.
Tekton Design Speakers Price Increase
Yeah, it's my first post and in full disclosure, I saw an amp on here I wanted so I signed up and bought it through the classifieds.
Anywho, looks like prices went up across the board today at the Tekton shop. Glad I got my order in at Tekton before inflation/materials or demand finally pushed the cost up. Anyone else drop some stacks on Tektons just recently?
Honestly, the first time I saw the model I ordered (not sharing until I have my review and comparison with my prior setup complete) I took one shocked look at the arrays and thought "this guy got scammed and bought the worlds ugliest speakers. What an idiot!" Those arrays, lord. But then I auditioned them and ever since I had to build a copy- system and get a pair. I'll share more on my build after the room remodel and setup.
Back to Tekton, looks like materials are getting pricey (I noticed lumber went way up at the local box store). But how do people feel about the base prices increasing on models marked "sale" and the sale price increasing? Makes me think of the Shane company radio ads that criticize competition who mark up, put on sale and are essentially charging more. With so many blogs and videos praising a set-price synonymous with the name of the speaker build, for example 3k equaled base DI's (not $3,299) I think this will be harmful. Better to note on the home page that supplier pricing has caused a temporary increase, shipping charge, or something of that sort and that's necessary in this case because Tekton's price-point has so integrated with the product that youtubes and reviews have the price in the title or in the image. In fact, those reviews and video stills are on Tekton's website and show a conflict in pricing.
Get your fire-suits out because Tekton haters will flame. I've never even posted and I'm aware of the Tekton hate group, hoping I can get an unbiased couple of comparisons out there in the future for home mid-fi audio guys who don't care about the technical stuff, just hi value systems for the masses.
Thanks for being patient with a new poster, I'm not a forums guy.
Anywho, looks like prices went up across the board today at the Tekton shop. Glad I got my order in at Tekton before inflation/materials or demand finally pushed the cost up. Anyone else drop some stacks on Tektons just recently?
Honestly, the first time I saw the model I ordered (not sharing until I have my review and comparison with my prior setup complete) I took one shocked look at the arrays and thought "this guy got scammed and bought the worlds ugliest speakers. What an idiot!" Those arrays, lord. But then I auditioned them and ever since I had to build a copy- system and get a pair. I'll share more on my build after the room remodel and setup.
Back to Tekton, looks like materials are getting pricey (I noticed lumber went way up at the local box store). But how do people feel about the base prices increasing on models marked "sale" and the sale price increasing? Makes me think of the Shane company radio ads that criticize competition who mark up, put on sale and are essentially charging more. With so many blogs and videos praising a set-price synonymous with the name of the speaker build, for example 3k equaled base DI's (not $3,299) I think this will be harmful. Better to note on the home page that supplier pricing has caused a temporary increase, shipping charge, or something of that sort and that's necessary in this case because Tekton's price-point has so integrated with the product that youtubes and reviews have the price in the title or in the image. In fact, those reviews and video stills are on Tekton's website and show a conflict in pricing.
Get your fire-suits out because Tekton haters will flame. I've never even posted and I'm aware of the Tekton hate group, hoping I can get an unbiased couple of comparisons out there in the future for home mid-fi audio guys who don't care about the technical stuff, just hi value systems for the masses.
Thanks for being patient with a new poster, I'm not a forums guy.
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Its obvious you're not a forums guy. You'd know how dreary it is someone comes along goes way off on a subject he nor anyone else here knows anything about- and has nothing to do with audio. Seems there would be groups of marketing or business people better informed and able to do more than kvetch about marketing methods. The guy is so successful he's backlogged months cranking em out fast as he can for who knows how long, but you're gonna second guess him? Okay, enough of that. Looks like about a 10% increase. Not much. Frankly, given the success and the backlog it could easily have been more. One thing anyone looking into it should know, Eric Alexander has said many times he's a speaker builder and by that he means he wants to build speakers. That people can afford. High end speakers without the high end Faberge Egg prices. That he most certainly has done, and is still doing. That's the real story here. A price increase from this point of view is a good thing. With more money maybe he can expand and be able to build more and even better speakers, and faster with less backlog and even better customer service. |
Eric has had his "sale prices" on going since the 1st of the year 2020.. Very surprised it lasted this long, so gripe all you want. Also of note during this period, free shipping! I got my Electron SE at $3000.00 and could not be more pleased, would be hard pressed to better these at the price point. Haters ??? I suppose if I was staring at 25,000.00 jewel boxes that did not sound as good I would be pissed too. |
Millercarbon, I agree that the price increase is a good thing. How does talking about a speaker manufacturer and changing prices have nothing to do with audio? Could you help me understand? I'm not second guessing, but you do realize we human beings make mistakes? Or do you believe certain people are infallible? Thanks Iwin! I agree with you 100% that Tekton build materials and numbers were pretty strained and stretched thin requiring an increase. It's funny people think I'm griping. It's not an "all or nothing" world. Personally, I like the Tekton sound, value, and industrial cabinets and I'm not a fanboy. Real world discussions are fantastic and opposing views on the matter expand the topic. I noticed Tekton put up a notice on their site about the price increase and cross posted it on FB. It appears Eric wrote it on the 9th and somebody lagged getting it up and live. Anyone who runs a successful business meets the crossroads of increasing prices, hiring, and delegating tasks. I get it. The blind defense of Tekton does the brand no good and belies credibility of the person making the statement. I understand when a business is busy, that's why we have web developers and people who answer the phones. I'd be very surprised to see that the Tekton website is designed and updated by one man who also personally crafts all the cabinets, wiring, and finishing. When I share on something that might hurt Tekton's (or fanboy) credibility, it's better to get it out there and get some positive feedback rather than submit blind defense, otherwise, how can we post honest reviews of products without appearing and acting fanatical or worse, like we have financial interest in the product? |
Makes me think of the Shane company radio ads that criticize competition who mark up, put on sale and are essentially charging more. Right. Where would anyone ever get that idea. |
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Sorry about the A-holes gdk00111 we do our best to work around them but they are a very determined lot. Anyway all that matters is you were able to work your way around the blather and figure it out and so soon enough you will find out and know what the rest of us know, Eric Alexander is the real deal. Haven't heard the Electron, haven't heard any of them really other than my Moabs. But I read a lot and spent a good deal of time on the phone with Eric. My bet is you will if anything feel the reviews all understate just how good a speaker Eric really makes. The situation is kind of like with the Porsche 911. For years I would read all the car reviews and they sure made it sound like one fantastic car. But they also made it sound like well really there are a lot of very fantastic cars that are very close. Then one day I get one and the more I drive it the more I realize all those reviewers are full of it! There is nothing even close to a 911! What crap to even put other cars in the same magazine! That is what this is like. There's a guy I know over in the UK, they have hardly any over there because people are afraid to ship and get stuck, but he says everyone over there who has actually heard one is gobsmacked. They are if anything underrated. The competition is overrated. But there are an awful lot out there with what is only slowly dawning on them is old technology. You can expect a lot of butt-hurt. Just go and enjoy your Electrons. I know you will. |
Thanks Miller, appreciate the vote of confidence! A guy who works for me is actually into 911's, so I do get the reference completely. You don't know what you don't know, as they say. Always bothered me when there is someone who "knows better" or "figured out the scheme" argument with a product that they clearly never heard or seen. I do wonder how those Moabs sound, bet they are bliss. I have a pair of Klipschorns so I am out of real estate to even consider something that big lol. Those Electron SE's have a sensitivity of 99db, I want to try them with a 300B. Using mono block Sophia Electric 91-01 amps with Takatsuki 300Bs. Make you cry on a pair of Klipschorns lol. Curious what they do on a more conventional speaker like these. What kind of equipment you running with those speakers? |
https://systems.audiogon.com/systems/8367 The best most concise description I have heard is Moabs combine the dynamics of horns with the transient detail of electrostats with the seamlessness of Maggies and combine it all with the power and ability to move air of a large dynamic driver. They are physically big and will play big music with all the scale you would ever want, but they do not make everything sound big and are equally at home with intimate small scale music. I would love to hear mine with a 300B! These things play so loud with my 50 watts, I am sure they would be fine with less, and the magic then, wow! Then if you take that tube amp put it on Pods, put the speakers on Podiums, holy-! You would not believe! |
I didn't know you can do that! Put your system on here, that is. Very nice! I got some stuff up on Youtube, see below. Equipment list on there, missing some things I am sure. Just picked up a Rogue Audio Stereo 100. Put some telefunken tubes in it, 12au7 and ax7. VERY nice amp. Had the Dragon, took it back. Way too dry, lost the 3d depth. It was very clinical. Like how I imagine some guy behind a control panel of knobs in a mastering studio would want to hear it. Not sure why the Dragon is more expensive... But I will be using that for the most part with these Tekton's, but being they are so sensitive I just gotta know what those 300Bs sound like! Tekton is 12 weeks out right now but I'll let you know how they sound. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hoj_RkPVMQQ |
"Haven't heard the Electron, haven't heard any of them really other than my Moabs. But I read a lot and spent a good deal of time on the phone with Eric. My bet is you will if anything feel the reviews all understate just how good a speaker Eric really makes." If it were not for real, it would be a joke. |
gdk00111- I didn’t know you can do that! Put your system on here, that is. Very nice! I got some stuff up on Youtube, see below. Equipment list on there, missing some things I am sure. Just picked up a Rogue Audio Stereo 100. Put some telefunken tubes in it, 12au7 and ax7. VERY nice amp. Had the Dragon, took it back. Way too dry, lost the 3d depth. It was very clinical. Like how I imagine some guy behind a control panel of knobs in a mastering studio would want to hear it. Not sure why the Dragon is more expensive... But I will be using that for the most part with these Tekton’s, but being they are so sensitive I just gotta know what those 300Bs sound like! Tekton is 12 weeks out right now but I’ll let you know how they sound. Is that your rig? (Would ya get a load of these clowns? I was a PCA Driving Instructor. Drove and rode in all the Porsches plus more high performance cars - race track, autocross, and roads- than they can name if they got together and wracked their tiny little brains. This is the problem around here: projection. Whole slew of em know zip and with even less experience, so they assume that applies to everyone else, they assume you must be as ignorant and bloviating as they know themselves to be. It is a good assumption in many cases but they go off the deep end every time with me.) |
(Would ya get a load of these clowns? I was a PCA Driving Instructor. Drove and rode in all the Porsches plus more high performance cars - race track, autocross, and roads- than they can name if they got together and wracked their tiny little brains.After wading through your oh so mature name calling, you’ve once again proven my point. You drove and rode in ALL the Porsches? All of them? There are currently around 110 Porsche models. Did you drive a 1901 Lohner-Porsche Phaeton? A 1935 Porsche type64? 1948 Porsche type56? 1952 Glockner 356 roadster? No? How about a 1967 911e 2.2 Targa? 1969 917? 1985 959 Dakar? 1989 911 Speedster? 1997 911 GT1 StraBversion? No again?? And you drove in more high performance cars. Certainly not ALL high performance cars. Yet you state as fact-which it is certainly not to everyone- no other car comes close to a Porsche. You have formulated your OPINION on your experience with a limited number of vehicles. That’s it. Not all vehicles, only the ones you have personally experienced. Yet you state your opinion as if it is a universal truth. It is not. It is merely your opinion. The same goes for audio equipment as much as anything else. Out of the massive amount of choices from around the world which you could not possibly scratch the surface of experiencing, you made your choice of what sounds best to you. Not to everyone. To you. And we’re the clowns? By the by, how did you manage to shift wearing those giant shoes? |
My, how clever. On the contrary, I am quite cognizant of the big picture. Actually my response, though not quite concise, is quite accurate. There is nothing petty about it. It points out your perpetual habit of confusing your opinion with absolute fact, and a penchant for overstatement. I am just happy you ceased your ridiculous conspiracy theory foolishness. Has anyone come for you yet? Election overturned? Mass riots in every Capitol? Are masks life saving or useless today? You have much to offer this forum with your in-depth audio knowledge which is quite impressive. Much more so than mine. It is a shame it most times gets lost among pointless name calling and your "I’ll push you off the swings at recess" responses. And that, is truly not seeing the forest for the trees. |
OP I am going to do what millercarbon warned you about.... 911 is a good car - I owned one. And my M3 was a good car too. I have owned multiple Porsches and like them but that doesn’t mean I don’t like Honda’s, Ford or Hyundai. OP 10% price increase really isn’t bad for Tekton and while I haven’t heard them - there’s a lot of great speakers for ‘reasonable’ prices just like there are wonderful $10 bottles of wine. The secret is knowing about them. |
@Miller, yes sir that's me. I got bored during quarantine ha. I officially ordered them. Tammy is real pleasant to deal with, she will get you the answer you want. I like the approach of the company in general, good for them. That is pretty neat about the PCA too, looked it up. My guy at work would go nuts for that ha. But I am sure your opinion is no more valuable than the countless hours Carp played all those same cars on Gran Turismo. I drive a Kia Sorento, sure I'm close too. WHY??!!! Like the energy it takes, kills me lol. For the carp in the river https://www.pca.org/national-instructor-training |
But I am sure your opinion is no more valuable than the countless hours Carp played all those same cars on Gran TurismoThe first part of this sentence is correct. His opinion is no more valuable than mine or anyone else’s. Would you care to know why? Because it is an opinion. It may be more informed than some others, but none the less, still an opinion. |
millercarbon. "Drove and rode in all the Porsches..." What did you think about the sound equipment in 959? I thought it was just about right and appreciated that it included ARI. It did make the local newscasters come alive in the car. While we are at that, who makes sound systems for newer 911s? I know that Burmester does it for Cayennes, but am not sure about little ones. |
That all may be true but I perceive the opinion as ill-informed when it is an opinion formation under antagonistic influences. Life is all about perception now isn't it. Turns out, you learn quite a bit about life in kindergarten. Look, you may be a great guy, I have no idea. I am just some new dude, excited to talk to folks about a speaker purchase... and here we are. I don't know if there is a background between you two, but from my perspective, seemed a little vengeful when the guy actually is a instructor. I just wanted to smoke, talk about speakers. I am way to chill for this lol |
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