Rega and speed stability should not be used in the same sentence. They have never been able to get it right.
If the old belt still is in one piece just clean it and continue to use as a new product from Rega will be a waste of resources.
If you value speed stability consider a Direct Drive table
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With an occasional application of Armor All a rubber belt can last essentially forever. Drying out is what kills rubber belts. That's what I use on the rubber belt on my 1977 Ariston turntable.
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Sometimes the tolerances of the newer tables are a bit different from the old and I would think the new belt is designed around the newer models. I had a speed issue with my Basis when I changed to a new belt and the problem was corrected with a new motor pulley. You might try a new standard Rega belt and see if it works better.
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In the long run, Armorall , at least the original product that makes rubber tires shiny, is not a good choice for a TT belt because it may make the belt slippery and also may dry it out prematurely.
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Listening before you did the check, could you REALLY hear a difference?
Guessing no?
If you haven't already- replacing the plastic subplatter with an aftermarket steel/aluminum one can make a noticeable improvement.
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So I’m not asking about longevity (amoral? We all know that destroys rubber), it’s just the wow is higher. Just trying to stick to the original point for simplicity.
RPM is spot on, only the wow percentage is higher.
I did mention that these old ears don’t hear a difference anyway.
Sub platter is a GrooveTracer Deluxe model. It’s been on the table for years
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ArmorAll is mostly water I believe. I wouldn't use it on a tt belt.
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I often read that Armorall should not even be used on car tires. So what does that say?
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@neversatisfied
Try, Origin Live for a new belt. I've used them on my Rock 7 and VPI for years.
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That is a disturbing result. Did you clean the entire belt path, pulley and circumference of sub platter, with pure alcohol when replacing the belt?
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Run in the belt for 50 hours and then repeat you method of measurement .
DeKay
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Yep. Armorall, their original product, is now out of favor because it dries out the rubber even on tires. They do make other useful products.
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Armor All is crap, and this has been common knowledge for decades.
DeKay
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I can put the old belt back on and the numbers drop right back down which makes me believe the sub platter is clean. I will continue running it for some time to see if it improves. Worst case scenario, I have a spare belt. It does piss me off that I spent $100 on it though.
I should have known better.
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So "no", fair enough. It may just bed in with more play, as dekay suggested.
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Try turning it inside out and retesting.
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It’s a round belt, more of an O ring than a belt actually.
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But was it cryogenically treated before you tried your experiment?
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Does a turntable belt have a break-in period? If so, then maybe you should give it time and then retest.
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Was it cryogenically treated? You would need to ask Rega but they claim it was.
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Now I wonder if…. Interesting timing for your post. I have a P5 with Groove Tracer sub platter and Platter. I upgraded to Neo TT PSU a couple of years ago (whole other post). Long story short, I was checking to see if motor was rubbing against platter and noticed the white Rega belt was sloppy (on TT for quite a while) put new spare white belt on. No more slop. But considered purchasing new reference ELBT. Food for thought
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I guess I'm just confused as to why you don't contact Rega first, or your local Rega distributor, and tell them about this issue and they might have an explanation/solution.
This way you don't have to engage this forum to speculate about what the issue is, which doesn't really help you much
Complaining here before even reaching out to the manufacturer seems to be putting the cart before the horse, in my humble opinion.
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So, bimmerlover....I would very much like to contact Rega. In fact it was my first reaction. If you would be so kind as to provide me with their contact information I will do so straight away, because Rega does not provide that information on their site. Obviously I will contact the shop from where I purchased it. I would be foolish not to. In fact I will be doing so right after "engaging" this forum once again.
I am so very sorry to have posted my question on this public forum and caused you to loose precious time from your very important life. I apologize for enjoying the suggestions of the friendly and helpful people here, and on probably every other public forum I am a member of. It is usually a very social and happy experience
I am also very sorry that you feel that someone asking for advice on a forum is "complaining". I do not recall complaining. Perhaps it appears to be complaining due to your overly pleasant disposition. But I could be wrong.
The good news is, you do not need to reply to this thread and longer.
P.S. Apologies to the good folk here. I just came back from a colonoscopy so I might be a tad grumpy.
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Edwards Audio Blue Belt. They are a component parts supplier to Rega and make a bely under their own name. It's the best belt I have ever used for Rega turntables and Edwards turntables.
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