I’m curious about this product from Perfect Path Technologies and would like to hear from those that have experience with it. I’ve bought and used the Total Contact enhancer and like what it does for my system so I’m interested in hearing how this Omega E mat performs.
Interesting. What products did you remove? What other parameters besides dynamics and air did you look for? I’m not totally sure I would intimate that everyone else would experience your results.
@toetapaudio Great questions, No batteries, zero crystals. It is solid state, will never degrade in performance. Biggest unique feature is the fact that you cannot overload the room or system by adding more.
Personally we have removed all signal, room enhancing devices from our system, except for my products, We found a big increase in dynamics and air once removed.
@jafreeman (Joe) - I just checked-out your system page. Very nice! Seems like that 240v isolation transformer is a prime candidate for an E-Mat?
@fleschler - I use a SR Atmosphere (original) as well. Have you tried the green ATM? I like it much better than the red ATM. I did try some graphene oxide on my Atmosphere connections which seemed to work well. Maybe attach an E-Mat to the side of the Atmosphere? Whats the rest of your system consist of?
If you are using a digital source I suggest trying the E - mats at the switch and hub. I’ve had some success with using Bybee Signal Enhancers in those locations.
Does the E-mat have a battery like the Bybee’s?
Word of caution, some of the crystal based products exhibit a drop off in performance over time, not sure if this would apply to the E- mats? HF MC 0.5/1’s use magnets I believe so should not have this drop off in performance over time. Anybody using the HF’s with the E-mats?
I would need more E-mats to try under my SR Atmosphere XL4. I might try it on top also since I dislike the Red ATM (too bright) and removed it from the room. I only use the Atmosphere for some recordings. With the E-mat and my latest IC cables, its sort of redundant except for unusual recordings and 78s.
Has any one tried some minor mass loading on their CD player or speakers since treating with TC and installing the Mat?
I had tried it a couple years ago but it just muddied the sound. However, I just applied some mass to those two areas and wow the bass definition, tunefulness and power is astonishing.
Tim sent me mats for a couple of trusted friends to try out on a no obligation basis. Fleischer is using six of them right now as you all know.
I received an additional eight E Mats today. This means that I will have fourteen E Mats on a temporary basis before friends pick them up this coming Sunday, I’ve already installed, and have been using six E Mats on a regular basis, but now I’ve installed another eight mats.
Tonight’s listening session will be with all fourteen mats in place. The two original ones in the circuit breaker box will remain there. I’ll be experimenting with other locations ... and/or will be stacking more under the components.
My initial listen shortly after the installation was with the Diana Krall "Live in Paris" CD. You know that cut "Oh Canada?" Well, I’ve never noticed Diana Krall’s warm, moist breath on my neck before. :-)
Oregon papa: Yes I use the Active Grounding Block with the headphone system, and another one with the Horn speaker system. The Video system has the original passive Grounding Block. Atmosphere units also in place. Lots of interesting locations to try the Mat.
Another possible location is near or under the crossover network in multi driver speakers. I am sure to eventually try a mini Mat under my crossovers.
This E Mat has to be the best audio bargain of the new century. I am lost within the depths of new layers of music that just weren't audible before. It's all so clear and sweet--just what I would have expected from an expensive upgrade.
I believe you have an SR Grounding Block. I'd be curious to hear what one Omega E Mat would do under that. Also, I wonder if setting the SR Atmosphere on top of an E Mat would do anything.
Lots of exciting places to try the Mats! All of my components have been treated with a combination of Total Contact+ synergistic Research ECT’s. Except the Pass Lab amp which has not been treated. All components sit on SynergisticResaerch Tranquility Bases and the listening and viewing rooms have Synergistic Research Atmosphere units. Putting a Mat at the breaker box will potentially help three systems. One home theater system with a 4K video, the headphone system, and lastly the Horn system with the relatively untreated Pass Lab amp.
I will of course be trying other locations but will be slow and take it a step at a time.
I advise putting one mat on the breaker box panel. It affected all audio systems in my home (two main audio systems and two video/audio systems). I’d like to know what difference others find on their TV video screens. Colors appear more saturated. Has video resolution improved, my wife thinks so but I can’t tell.
The dynamics, frequency extension and resolution improvement were apparent immediately. Mid-range smoothing came next after 24 hours. That relaxed quality is what I’m waiting for.
My Yello-Touch CD is so much improved, better than on an $850,000 horn system I heard it on. A great test recording even if one doesn’t like the music.
That wonderful relaxed quality to the music, which Frank spoke of in his original review, is something that takes time to develop with the Omega. It is well worth the wait! 😁
I know that after two weeks of the mat staying in one place it gets really good. Who knows, it may continue to get even better after that?
Placing the Mat under my CD player made a significant impact in my main system while the effect on the dac in my office system was not as dramatic. When I took I the Mat from the dac to the breaker panel, I found that the overal sound in the main system improved.
@davidpritchard - David, it will be interesting. They apparently take a while to settle-in but if you have a chance to move them around your system that would be helpful info. Like putting one on your digital source for instance. (I know people that have been given these suggest putting them under all your components but at $600 each I would like a little more info on where they are most effective)
To each his or her own, but I would not dedicate a $600 mat to a $130, stamped metal box full of $8 circuit breakers when I can place it at the system, under a front-end piece costing 2K to 20K or more containing hundreds-to-thousands of parts that are subject to RFI, if that is even what this thing is working to eliminate. I would place one on a transformer power supply that is located at the system, but that would be after putting them under all front-end components.
My two E Mats arrived today. One was placed inside the circuit breaker box and the other on top of the Pass Lab Int-60 amp. This amp sits on a Synergistic Research Tranquility Base and is connected to a Synergistic Research Active Grounding System. I will take a listen after 48 hours to get a baseline of what the Mats does. The amp is on 24/7.
I moved the Mat, that was in my office system, on my dac to my main breaker panel about four days ago. I found that it did positively impact the main system, which has a Mat on on the CD player, immediately. The effect of Mat on the breaker panel has been noticeable on all 5 televisions in my home as well. They definitely had a sharper picture. The office system lost a slight bit of clarity in the treble when I removed it from the dac but the contribution from the breaker panel placement has still helped the music have greater impact, due to the lower noise floor. This was totally unexpected. Keep in mind that this is spesific to my system.
@tommylion Any idea if or when a mat is moved does it take another two weeks to settle once it’s back in the same spot, or does it reacclimate quicker? The HF mc-0.5’s are kinda like that but don’t take too long to get back to where they were, depending on how long they were not in the same spot.
I’m all for experimenting and trying different placements, but you also need to pick a place (or places) and leave the mat there for a full two weeks, to really see what it can do.
That's a tough one, Lak. You may have to experiment with placement, but that's not very tough to do. I would try the DAC or Preamp first, then move it back to the distributor after a few days to compare. You are going to like this thing.
@t_ramey you are correct I have not used the TC product. I've experimented with too many interconnects, speaker cables and power cords, therefore, I wanted to keep the playing field neutral. I've reread the thread trying to decide the first location to try the E Mat either under the Dac, Transport or the High Fidelity MC-6 Power Distributor which powers the Dac, Transport, Preamp and FM tuner. I'm open to suggestions but I believe you experienced users are going to suggest under the MC-6, am I correct?
I have not experimented with the E Mat magnetic side down, away from a component or panel breaker box.
However, I can confirm that I tried stacking one pair of E Mats under equipment and in the panel breaker boxes only (I couldn’t use the E Mat under or above my mono block amps). There was a subtle but noticeable improvement stacking them under my thin bottomed preamp/phono stage more so than doubling at the breaker box panel, the isolation transformer or the CD player. Doubling E Mats improved the sound in all locations though.
I am witholding full comment overall until I have a few days trial with the E Mats because I don’t want to sell them short. The 24 hour improvement was significant. The 1 hour improvement was very important because initially, despite the previously noted improvements in resolution, transient response, frequency extension, dynamics and pacing, there was a glary, bright upper mid-range and a subdued, reticent sounding lower mid-range when initially installed at six locations. I found a simple solution to eliminate the bright/subdued mid-range problem by moving my SR HFT 2.0 side wall speaker locations down 1/4", which brought superb balance back (down to warm, up to brighten).
Now, as I indicated, I need to give the E-Mats time because it is usually the mid-range that adjusts last and I may have to restore the SR HFT 2.0s back to the initial pre-E Mat installed positions (same with breaking in new cabling).
I've tried stacking three mats under each component. The effects are cumulative. The noise floor drops significantly with each mat. Is there a limit where the SQ diminishes? Who knows? If so, I haven't found that limit yet.
I haven't tried placing them side by side.
I found that having the magnetic side facing up toward the bottom of the component gives a slight improvement in SQ.
The above comments refer to my system only. I suspect that Steve Fleischer is doing some experimenting. Maybe he can add to this.
The clarity brought about by these mats is astounding.
Listening now--was away from home for three days and am enjoying my return to music more than ever since placing an E Mat under my Wadia player, a large unit that also contains a pre-amp. Two E Mats could fit under this player, which is now 3 inches off the granite deck because it sits on vibration damping footers. Question: Does the E Mat exert its effect pretty much straight up and down, or is there also a horizontal field of effect that is treating the entire 16" X 16" unit? Also, how does a side-by-side placement compare to a stacked placement under a component?
@fazee yes the smaller one should be fine. The magnetic strength I am pretty sure will not affect a hard drive. I have had a full mat on my Mac Mini, small card on my I Phone for weeks. no problem at all.
@fazee - just based on how speakers, phono cartridges and hard drives (many music servers have hard drives) work I would suggest keeping a magnet away from them. Maybe Perfect Path Tech doesn’t think its a problem though.
OP I have not used TC either so when I acquire the smaller versions it will also be going into a non TC treated system. I do have SR Blue fuses though...lol
As far as I can remember you have not used the TC enhancer, correct? I think most of the mat users here, I could be wrong, have also applied TC to their system so I’m interested in hearing your thoughts on what the mat does or doesn’t do for you. Not that it ultimately matters but I’m curious none the less.
I'm looking forward to Steve Fleischer's results from his listening session last night. He went home with six mats to try out. I think he was up really late. *lol*
Southern California is basically a desert. All of our hills are covered with chaparral. During hot weather, the oils in the brush come to the surface. All it takes is a dry lightening strike to set the fires off. As the plants burn, the seeds are expunged and end up in the soil. As soon as the rains come in the winter ... all four inches of it ..* lol* ... the seeds sprout and the greenery starts all over again. Its nature's way of pruning. The problem is, we are so stupid, we build multi-million dollar homes right in the middle of it. I guess this will continue as long as the insurance companies or the state cover the damages.
I feel confident in putting the mat inside the electrical panel. The outside panel is visible from my gate, set back about 35’ from the street. However, if I put the mat on top of the panel door, visible to anyone near my gate, they could just take it. I feel safer having it nearly enclosed by the panel door (which doesn’t seal closed after 40 years), magnetically clamped to a wall portion of the panel, draped across the breakers and sticking out about 1/4" on the other side of the panel (if I cut off 1/2" X 8", it would fit perfectly and I could close the panel door).
In my music room, I have a dedicated subpanel. I put the mat magnectically attached across the inside of it and across the breakers.
I don’t see how any heat build-up will ever occur in the breaker boxes. The exterior panel has been serviced recently by an electrician. The interior box is 25 years old.
If Tim says I’m better off putting the subpanel one outside the box, I’ll do it but I really don’t feel safe leaving the mat exposed to view on the outside panel. Also, if I put the mat magnetically attached to the inside of the outside panel door still sticking out slightly, will it be as effective?
It is absolutely heartbreaking to see those fires on TV. I hope you and your family stay safe. About 10 years ago, a neighbor was burning leaves (illegal) on a very windy day. His hemlocks got on fire, then the woods behind him. The entire woods was on fire behind my house and then the flames jumped the fence and burnt my entire backyard and ended 12 feet away from my home. When that ball of flames jumped my fence, it looked like the sun had just landed in my backyard. I was petrified and luckily at the last couple of minutes, the wind direction changed and I was able to put out what was left. The Fire Dept (less than a mile away) took about 17 minutes to respond. Very scary.
What about a vented air cooled Top Hat over my skull bone? Would this provide me with greater focus and clarity? The brain is an active circuit. Most are..in this crowd. Tom
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