Perfect Path Technologies confusion

Ridiculous

Seriously?
Can you please tell the assemblage how you formed that conclusion?

Inquiring minds need to know!

Thx Ozzy
Nice review!

Everyone here is my Audiogon review of the Omega Mats.
https://forum.audiogon.com/discussions/another-ozzy-review

ozzy

Gluppy.
i most assuredly am a class act as you correctly state.
Just not where you are concerned though.
Your constant pointless whining and self indulgent posts are enough to make the Pope curse!
all imho of course.

That being said, I wish no ill will to anyone and maybe I was a little harsh there.

So merry Christmas to you and your family!

Carry on chaps.

Oh look, another disparaging comment from a member with no experience of the products. I love these crusading ’the earth is flat’ guys like wesleyhead. So profound.

Their "I’m right, and you’re delusional..." has me questioning everything in my life; not just are those sounds/changes I hear real? Is blue really blue?

The world we experience is a construct. My truth is unique, as are my interpretations of all stimuli. Our experiences of the Omega+ mats in our systems is remarkably similar. Spooky. Or conspiracy...
NB: ... in our systems...

If these products did not have an effect, those who have direct experience would be less glowing in their appraisals.

May Santa gift these people with a dash of open mindedness and a little humility these holidays.

ignorant

I just got these, and will be writing a full review soon, but yes they definitely work on the breaker panel. 

My system is rather unusual in being run 4 ga off a 240v circuit, Audio Consulting step down transformer to 120v, then 4 ga direct into my Frankenstein power conditioner. Still, with all of that, one Omega Mat on the breaker panel dropped the noise floor, improved inner detail and- well wait for the review! 

Hey, jerry. Personally, I'd place another one in the breaker box and the second one under the power conditioner. But, it is fun to experiment with them! Maybe one each by the speaker crossovers. Fiddle around, but always allow time for them to settle before you try another location.

Thanks Mrs PPT

Hiya jerrybj,

Yes, it will work well on 240, 220, and 110 breakers.  Enjoy the music <3 

Best,

Krissy Mrock

Would The Gate work on 240v?

I have one Omega+ E Mat in my breaker box.
If I get a couple more, where to put them?

Another in the breaker box?
Or on the power box outside? (Enclosed).

One under the amp?

Or possibly both on the rear of my speakers?

No confusion..attaching  a new double strength Mat+ under my speakers where the crossover is tensioned and tuned inside the cabinet makes for a greater improvement than 2 new Mat+s on top of each speaker. More follow up in the coming days. Tom

  sgordon1 ...

I have both The Gate and the new Omega + mats in the circuit breaker box. Adding the mats was like supercharging The Gate. The mats were set up against the breaker switches, and the door was closed.

The new Omega + mats, in combination with The Gate, lowers the distortion even further than The Gate and the original two Omega mats that were in the breaker box. BUT ... the *Plus* mats have their own characteristics.  They seem to expose the tonality of instruments in a very positive way. It is hard to describe it, but you'll know its there. Just closer to real instruments playing before you. The same can be said for the human voice.  I've experienced that same phenomenon no matter where I place the *Plus* mats. 

My latest experiments with the new mats have been placing them on the speakers in line with the drivers. You've most likely read the results of that in the threads.   Big improvements to be had there.

If I had to number the most effective placements (in my system) for the *Plus* mats, I'd categorize it like this:

1. In the circuit breaker box.
2..On the outside of the speakers in line with the drivers.
3. Under the power conditioner.
4. Under the electronics ... amp, pre-amp, phono stage and then the CD player or DAC.

Frank

Can anyone comment on the addition of the E-Mat
to the Gate (mounted in the breaker box)?  Where are you placing the mat?
What are you hearing that is different than just listening
the Gate alone?  Big difference?

I can currently view Nirvana.
May not be attainable, but I know it's there...

Macbook Pro flicking through random tracks on the drive through Audirvana.
USB adaptor throwing NBA on the tv screen (my other addiction).

Really enjoying the Omega+ Emat. Music is even more enjoyable since putting it in my fuse box. Wondering what The Gate would do for my system. Would it even work on 240v?

Frank, if you hear my system now, you probably wouldn't want to leave either.  The new room and new DAC are superb additions.  It all adds up to more listening pleasure.  Last night I heard the very rare Grieg and Saint Saens 1903 and 1904 piano recordings on Marston CDs.  My wife said that there are some people who would appreciate the great pianism despite the sound limitations since they sold at least 700 CD sets.  If it wasn't the the new DAC and room, the sound would have been flat and lifeless.  

fleschler ...

You’ll have to come up soon to hear what The Gate, the Stop-Its, and the new Omega *Plus* Mats are doing. If you were to apply the *Plus* Mats to your Legacy Focus and Signature III speakers, you wouldn’t want to leave home. Not even to replenish your food supply. :-)

More Eva Cassidy:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bzLd2MDAHK8

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kGnfqRR509M

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xXBNlApwh0c

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KWvPOJOYqGA

Frank

lwin

What I find disconcerting are the individuals who have never tried a product denigrating said product, the companies who make it and those who try it.

Which is my point exactly Iwin. Some of the replies to my posts as you've mentioned above all have the same theme of "They're right, I'm wrong, they're smart, I'm dumb..."
And if they shout louder, or post more frequently, then it must be true and surely I will be enlightened.
I'm not enamoured by the abuse and continued denial of others' experiences, as though we have been tricked, are foolish and are willfully trying to deceive others.

“The truth is in my experience.”

Quote of the Week. 🤡

"I see the nature of these uncivilized apes and their simian spouses every time I get on the local freeway."

Civilized class act, in writing.

I have found, in my audio system, that there are places E-Mats work and don't work (or negatively work).  If I can tell the difference in effect, they must do something.  I have a dozen and find them most positively effective placed on power panels and isolation transformers.  Next on my tube pre-amp and phono pre-amp.  I have found that they negatively impact the sound placed on my new DAC and have no apparent effect on my large mono-block tube amps.  There is a limit in what I can spend at this time, so I haven't purchased the gate.  The Stop-Its are reasonably priced which are my next purchase.  SR's small products (fuses, duplex outlets and HFTs) have been a huge success in my system and room at affordable cost.  There Black Box was a failure wherever I placed it in the room.  From the above experience, I doubt anyone would find me believing in snake oil or having human frailty of emotional facilities which blind me to the truth.  The truth is in my experience.  Other audiophiles will find the same or different truths as each audio system and room are different; hence, trial and error method in the use of tweaks.  90 day money back guarantee from PPT and 30 day from SR certainly make it enticing to try their audio tweaks.

stereo5,

@glupson.........please give this a rest and put to bed.
Thank you

I cannot agree more, but, why only me?

geoffkait ...

Living in Southern California, I see the nature of these uncivilized apes and their simian spouses every time I get on the local freeway.

Sometimes I find myself wishing that I was a Highway Patrol officer with the ability to make myself and my cruiser invisible ... then reappear just as I'm on their asses, then turn the red lights and siren on. 

In Southern California, livin' the dream. 

Frank 

•  "A negative word in the community can have devastating results for them."

A negative word? How about scores of negative words?

Over time, for whatever reason, there have been those who without trying a product, try to dissuade others from buying these products with their over the top, uninformed, or misinformed opinions. These are the miscreants that in the past I have referred to as "destroyers," "looters" and "arsonists." I believe those are apt words to describe these evil-doers. 

Frank

You have to say pretty please with whipped cream on top. No, I don’t know what the whipped cream is all about.

@glupson.........please give this a rest and put to bed. 
Thank you

"A negative word in the community can have devastating results for them."

A positive clear word from them can have uplifting results for them.

Come to think of it, probably slightly less resistance on a clean car. 
A subtle difference but that what's being an audiophile is all about.

You mean when I change my cars oil it's not running better?

1 jnorris2005 : i bet this guys a fun guy to be around   made his mind up  

Have you ever changed your oil or washed your car and afterwards thought it runs much better?
the human brain is so funny

Ah, the slings and arrows of outrageous fortune. I shot an arrow into the air. 🔝 Where it fell I know not where. 
Faint heart ne’er won fair maiden. 💃

Every crowd has a silver lining.

+1 for Stereo 5. I have a lot of small companies as clients and it is a struggle for many of them to make ends meet. A negative word in the community can have devastating results for them. Audigon is a community. Having said that, I use the Audiogon forums to get information. If you have used a product, I like to hear your opinion whether it is positive or negative.By purchasing and using a product you have earned the right to express your opinion whether it is good or bad. 

What I find disconcerting are the individuals who have never tried a product denigrating said product,the companies who make it and those who try it. 
I like to tweak my system and I have found some tweaks that were surprisingly effective and others that didn’t do anything for my system. Some companies might have a product or two that work great in my system and some of theirs did nothing. If you have an open mind and are willing to try something different be it food, volunteering , traveling  etc. you might be very surprised with what you learn. I don’t know how many times I have said to myself, I wish I knew about or tried this sooner. As that noted philosopher Forrest Gump said “Life is like a bunch of chocolates”.

Did someone forget to put the Roach Motels out last night? This place is crawling with them. Once they get a foothold it can be very difficult to get rid of them. A block of wood and a hammer should suffice.

xyobgyn,

How dare you...?

(...post something with logic and reason)

twoch ...

So sorry to hear that your Omega + E-mat didn't come with instructions. Someone at the factory must have slipped up with your's. Every one of my original E mats came with instructions, as have all of my Omega "Plus" mats. 

PM me with your address and I'll be more than happy to send you the instructions that came with one of my mats.

Frank

Perhaps a better question is: Why do companies sell products with no instructions     i think the first question was proper one , Tons of times you mark up a product ×3  But you get that guy.   Then when it's all over .  You think  i should mark that up ×5 

DudeR  , As you must know the main man passed away. ( RIP SIR,)  Try  3 different ways untell you like what you might hear.  You can't asked questions to the general public unless you want to blow off your head 
 What can you do  
 

"This DOES NOT mean that the audio tweeks are the reason they feel or hear a difference."   xyobgyn

Yes, it does mean the tweaks, E+ mats in this discussion, are the source of the differences I hear.  I know this from observation and experience.  What experience do you have using the E+ mats, xyobgyn?    

I’m 100% sure that people who perceive a difference with PPT products, esoteric power cables, fuse orientation etc are human.

They are not robots typing in the forum.

As humans they are susceptible to placebo effect, and can not possibly prove causation for how they feel or what they hear. It’s real to them, and regardless of whether it’s logical, silly or breaking the rules of physics, you can’t deny their perception.

This DOES NOT mean that the audio tweeks are the reason they feel or hear a difference.  
If you guys enjoy the mental masturbation of discussing whether it’s placebo or not, have at it. But that is essentially the discussion.  You can not possibly prove either way, so it’s ultimately silly to insist the difference you hear is “real”, just as it’s silly for someone to say there can’t be a difference. There can be a difference for reasons independent of the tweek, and it’s real to the person who perceived it. 

I’ve got my orders. But uberwaltz, the poor devil, is riding the whirlwind. 😀

More like "getting out of keyboard". What can you do?

The personal attacks are really getting out of hand. 

uberwaltz,

"...and to you Gluppy.
You really are an idiot."

Class act, as always.