@jmfinney I am trying to decide between putting one in my integrated vs streamer. Considering SR suggests putting the Master in source gear or a conditioner, I’m only considering my integrated because it has a dac. Or perhaps more technically correct, it is a dac, because it’s a digital amp. Lyngdorf TDAI 3400.
And as follow up to from posts earlier in this thread and hopefully interesting to anyone with Puritan conditioners….
@lordmeltonI called the US importer and confirmed that the Puritan 156 has no fuse. It uses a circuit-breaker mechanism instead of a fuse.
@ozzy: How about a head to head comparison between the Synergistic Master fuse and the Swiss Digital Fuse box? Or maybe trying both on the same component? This is getting interesting! Good listening. Jeff
Got 24hrs on my SR Master Fuse and I can say it's worth every penny.
Now I have a full loom of SR Purple and the Master Fuse takes them to another level.
3D soundstage has really expanded, deep level details details are brought to the surface, whilst maintaining an airy and musical presentation with accurate timbre and realism.
Highly recommended if you already have some Purple fuses.
@rc22You can see the fuse in your Lyngdorf in the pic. top left. It’s T8A which is 8 amp slow blow, looks to be 5x20mm, but I’d take it out and check to be sure. SR recommends going up one level so you should replace it with a T10A fuse.
Your power conditioner may have an internal fuse too.
At Synergistic Research we’ve isolated key factors that affect how electricity propagates by changing the behavior of electrons through Inductive Quantum Coupling methods we collectively call UEF Tech. In fact, UEF Tech is so powerful even an electrical chain several miles long is fundamentally improved with nothing more than a single fuse engineered with our patented UEF Technology.
Quantum coupling is an effect in quantum mechanics in which two or more quantum systems are bound such that a change in one of the quantum states in one of the systems will cause an instantaneous change in all of the bound systems.
What a beautiful and successful marketing campaign. It started with a rather low cost fuse, yellow as I remember? And has now progressed from color to color, of course each new color being more expensive than the previous, and now to a $600 fuse that is so powerful it can control all the other fuses within your stereo.
What if the master fuse gets power hungry and decides it wants to start controlling more than the fuses in your stereo, and wants to control all the fuses in your house? Is master fuse unauthorized domination of submissive fuses covered in the SR warranty?
Great question, Lordmelton. The only viable place for a Master fuse is in my streamer. My conditioner has no fuse and my Lyngdforf 3400 does the dac-ing and also has no replaceable fuse. A purple in my streamer has been amazing, but I can sell it if the Master gives me a nice step up.
After much procrastination went ahead and ordered a SR Master Fuse for my Power Conditioner.
SR recommends putting a Master Fuse in either the DAC or Power Conditioner to begin with. Since the Power Conditioner is the only gear that doesn't have a Purple fuse, thought that was the logical way to go.
Waiting for someone to confirm if putting a Master Fuse in their Streamer or DAC is better.
I've bought Blue and Orange Synergistic Research fuses over the years and in each case they positively improved sound quality.
This new fuse is likely to be good tweak but is much too expensive for my budget. But I would recommend for those who can afford one to try it. 100% 30 day refund is offered.
I went a little higher in value. I think SR is only recommending using one of the Master fuses for your source equipment and the rest in your system to be purple.
Man, I am really digging the new Master Fuse that I installed in my Lumin. The music seems to be getting better daily. Still hard to comprehend why a fuse could make so much difference. Relax, just enjoy it...
If you guys are daring, you should try one in your main source component. Shake your head and then post your opinnion/reaction.
Notice I posted above to state your opinion After you have tried it.
I think there is a 30-day money back, so no worry other than the initial cash outlay.
I use both the purple fuses and the Audiomagic beeswax fuses. These things need at least 20 hours to settle in and will get better over the next 50 hours.
I received fuse today and it's already phenomenal. After just a few hours of listening, I can say that the sound has become more holographic, it is fuller and very clean. It’s on another level than all previous ones. I’m using it in my streamer/dac and it replaced purple. Already thinking of buying second one for my preamp.
The QSA fuse is still very good and does provide good detail. But I think the SR Master adds more depth and as I mentioned previously, more calmness. I prefer that sound.
Anyone actually interested in improving the sound/presentation of their system and curious, as to whether a simple fuse change might make a difference, can audition the Synergistic, at home, for 30 days, without risk.
Click on the following and scroll down slightly. You'll notice a proclamation/seal, promising your money back, if dissatisfied.
No excuse not to try them for yourself (or a plethora of Synergistic's other products in your own home and system, with your own ears*) to dispel any mystery.
SO MANY variables
SO MUCH bias, unfounded opinion and REALLY SAD humor, from the usual triggered snowflakes.
*Obviously: one must trust their ears, as well as their capacity for discerning the truth, because the Denyin'-tologists will tell you, "You're crazy!" (or some variant), should you determine they improve your sound..
I had Purple for a while in my integrated and DAC. It was interesting, but I ended up preferring the sound with it removed eventually; too much bloom and mid-bass emphasis. I could see these working for less musical systems though. I think this is honestly a cash grab and realizing that competition from QSA has proven there’s demand for higher priced fuses. I’ll try one in my DAC. Only thing I’ll lose is time, but for me it’s a fun process.
@cd45123,
I had the same experience. I put one in my custom Clayton Audio M-200 stereo amplifier. In the closest external spring loaded fuse holder to the IEC. Now it could just be that I did not give it the 50 to 300 hours needed to burn in. But after I took it out and replaced it with the ’regular’ fuse’ the ’Clayton Audio sound/voice’ was back. The funny thing is, I’m using all SR cable and it sounds fantastic without their own fuse! On my system, that is.
myself I noticed the difference when I replaced amplifier fuse with at the time Hi Fi Tuning Black Fuse, so I tried Synergistic Research Orange Fuse it make some big difference in Middle and Low end.
It never ceases to amaze me when people just assume that just because they don't hear or understand something it must be true for everyone. Not only that, they have this insuppressible need to 'enlighten' everyone who, god forbid, had a different experience. Look, if you tried something out and didn't notice any improvement, good for you! Move on! Maybe the tweak or component didn't synergize with your system. And that's ok. But you have no business deciding for other people what's worth their time and money or not.
Do a live test of fuse directionality with any group of serious listeners and you will notice that no consensus regarding audible differences of fuse direction will occur ...
You probably couldn’t get a consensus on anything else from them either, such as the best DAC or better sounding phono cartridge. Almost by definition, you don’t get consensus on preference - especially with audiophiles.
Do a live test of fuse directionality with any group of serious listeners and you will notice that no consensus regarding audible differences of fuse direction will occur. I dare anybody to try this (I did). And Dabel, since you're apparently incapable of noting sarcasm, by "special" I imply special listening skills claimed by the Fuser community, not your pseudo spiritual claptrap.
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