Mofi Sourcepoint 888?

They're almost cheap! I bet they're pretty good too, with those bass drivers freeing the concentric from bass duties.

I’ve seen great reports on these from shows (AXPONA etc) by Absolute Sound, Stereophile and others, saying they are another home run by Andrew Jones, and were some of the best speakers for the money at the recent shows. Reports say the bass in particular is excellent, and of course it has the concentric tweeter.

Makes me interested enough to audition them though no dealers in Seattle area have them yet, AFAIK.

If he releases a 10-10-10 or a 12-12-10, i'll buy it. I like em big.

"If he releases a 10-10-10 or a 12-12-10, i'll buy it. I like em big."

deep_333-

A 10/12 would get my attention.

I see these 888's being a killer deal in 3-4 years due to low sales.

Just like the AJ Elac Adante-dealers were blowing them out 1/2 price.

deep_333-

A 10/12 would get my attention.

I see these 888’s being a killer deal in 3-4 years due to low sales.

Just like the AJ Elac Adante-dealers were blowing them out 1/2 price.

I have the adante series in a rig. Expensive fab/priced too low/hard to make money. It was a misunderstood hifi speaker that the avg home theater dude was picking up and putting on receivers..... large/imposing and the home theater wives complained (returned)....i.e, full potential never got realized by such dudes. Hifi brand name snobs thought the name "elac" was beneath them

Long story short, i’ll take a coupled cavity clean bass TAD for 5k prices on the blow out sale. Tech advanced HIFI misunderstandings are great for my wallet.

They look like a total steal at the current price. I would imagine a line is forming.

I think the crossover to the woofer is 120hz so it would almost be like adding a small sub to the source point 8. Might be a waste of money however if someone is already into using subs with the source point bookshelf speakers.

Erin’s Audio corner requested to buy a pair. I would expect to see full kipple measurements in the near future. I know this crowd “loves” measurements lol. I want both measurements and subjective opinions…. As queen says “I want it all and I want it now” lol.

Listened long at AXPONA and they did many things impressively except for the upper midrange lower treble dry, brash flavor.  Turns out to be present in the entire line.  Possibly due to the amplification but I heard what I heard.  

In the $5K range The SVS Ultra Evolution Pinnacle and Revival Audio Atatante 5 sounded better and especially more refined.  I would live with either over the SP 8888. 

Tone wise the SP8s are my favorite with more warmth and less brashness.   

The SVS had true sub bass and was one of my show favorites.  

Listened long at AXPONA and they did many things impressively except for the upper midrange lower treble dry, brash flavor.  Turns out to be present in the entire line.  Possibly due to the amplification but I heard what I heard.  

The Class D naked emperor, hifirose must have struck again (that Mofi is a distributor for). I heard it on some luscious class A/AB and it was juicy and chocolatey.

"did many things impressively except for the upper midrange lower treble dry, brash flavor."

That’s not so good! What were they driven with, @avanti1960 ?

@deep_333 , I still want to hear them with some good class A/B gear. 

@patrickdowns

As deep mentioned, the HiFi Rose Integrated RA180.

Definitely listen with another amp before you buy.  

I can hear the issue with this video- listen with a good set of headphones.  

MoFi SourcePoint 888 Speakers at AXPONA 2024 (youtube.com) 

That being said the SVS Ultra Evolution Pinnacles were being driven by an Emotiva XPA-2 Gen3 (only $1300) and sounded smooth, unfatiguing and powerful ! 

Midrange glare is the worst trait in a speaker. It will be interesting to hear opinions with other front ends. 

"they did many things impressively except for the upper midrange lower treble dry, brash flavor. "

Just like bookshelves, always system dependent.

Everyone's "Goldilocks" setup will  be different.

You might find these videos interesting.

https://youtu.be/iF7QaP0AZcY?si=vcWw_6sXe622fXph

Midrange glare is the worst trait in a speaker. It will be interesting to hear opinions with other front ends.

It is NOT midrange glare...this speaker can throw an unusual amount of midrange detail at you for this price (not fake detail), the likes of which you only start to hear in pricier TADs, etc... i.e. the type of speaker that starts to reveal the goofiness of Class D naked emperors. In other words, go with meatheaded class A/AB for this speaker. I heard it with older big Levinsons.

Many lackluster manufacturers with lackluster drivers use the oldest trick in the book to fool the hifi enthusiast into thinking that their speaker is very detailed! (just tilt the top end up a bit, and the dude will think his speaker is detailed, whoop di doo). The Class D naked emperors might stay unexposed when such trickery is deployed.

This speaker is not one of those "fake detail" speakers.

IMO, even the bookshelf speaker should have been a 3 way "larger" bookshelf with an additional bass driver (88 not 8)...

I heard these at a home with  a Boulder integrated and Weiss dac 

and these speakers were not out of place whatsoever.

in fact the Bass is very conservatively rated we played 28 hz test tone from a concert grand piano and other organ tones feeling Bass even into the mid 20 s 

I maybe giving them a big time Xover upgrade $1200 in top of the line capacitors and resistors would with East put this in the $15k+  Loudspeaker without any 

stretch almost 97 lbs each .the drivers maybe made overseas and cabinet 

but Andrew Jones overseas every step of their production .

he calls them the working man’s TAD loudspeaker and I totally agree .

These will play with a modest 40wpc tube amp but truly love to play loud,higher power better control.

that being said as a point source coaxial mid tweeter he did a great job.

I am a 40 year audiophile and owned a Audio store for a decade these are a steal 

for $5k  these beat most speakers in many areas at over $10 k.

I think a 10 inch version would be great but the Bass is Very solid ,no sub needed 

for 95% of Audiophiles.

Erin in his corner raved about it recently, it appears.

Mofi 888 - Erin's Audio Corner

Thanks for sharing that video @deep_333. 

I'm really curious about these speakers.

The above comments about judging a speaker by what was heard at a trade show or via a YouTube video with headphones just baffles me. Making an objective statement about a specific trait (mid-range glare) based on a set-up in a hotel room seems like a rush to judgement.

I appreciate @audioman58 real life, in a listeners room approach.

"he calls them the working man’s TAD loudspeaker"

audioman58-

Haven't heard them yet, but I'd probably agree having heard other AJ creations-Sourcepoint 10's/Elac Adante.

Years ago I attended an audio club meeting at Pioneer HQ. AJ demoed his TV soundbar. The sound was impressive for a price point, big box product.

Upon entering the facility, you walked past a huge aisle 3 levels high with TAD speakers! 

Tons of competition out there and a limited market but 10s sounded like exceptional value when I heard them at 2022 CAF. These days, they are a lot of Stand mount speaker for the price.

Have not heard the newer floorstanders but floorstanders have more appeal to me personally at present than large stand mounts.

Any new owner reports?  What surprised you.  Any downside?

this is the 5K competition. Not a crowded field...

https://speakerchoices.com/?pricemin=4000&pricemax=6000

I bought the test/demo pair sent to Crutchfield. Black ash with black grill. They are driven by Onkyo Grand Integra M-510 amp and a wide variety of sources including vinyl, digital and cassette. They sound incredible and play very loud with ease. Incredible bass and articulate as well at lower volumes. The build quality looks great in my opinion. Fyi… I sold my Magico A5’s because they did not play loud. So far, very impressed. Thank you.

And CD too

Magico A5s wouldn’t play loud? Please expand on this.

Very simple… Plinius Hiato, Hegel H30 mono blocks (recommended by Magico) or Onkyo GI M-510, they’re not designed to play loud.

I’ve never heard that before. That’s a lot of moolah for a speaker that can’t crank when needed.

Yup, those A5 bass drivers look 👀 like they can crank up some serious bass energy, because they can!  Let’s play some orchestral music!

That is what I thought.

I have owned the 888's for awhile. I drive them with mac tubes. 

They are above average in my opinion and a decent deal. The vocals and midrange sound truncated and at times break up even at moderate volumes. 

The best speakers that I haveowned in this price range are the Tekton Moabs,. No comparison and I am sorry that I sold them, but I have the hi-fi disease. 

@lpweissman 

That's very interesting and a little surprising. Thanks.

"The vocals and midrange sound truncated and at times break up even at moderate volumes."

Interesting. I would like to read more user observations. Every speaker is subject to the ol YMMV.

"The best speakers that I haveowned in this price range are the Tekton Moabs"

User reviews all seem positive. The Tekton aesthetic however...

I have owned the 888’s for awhile. I drive them with mac tubes.

They are above average in my opinion and a decent deal. The vocals and midrange sound truncated and at times break up even at moderate volumes.

Hmmm, guy who lives near my house has been rocking out with the 888s @100db at least with some big ol’ Levinson amps i sold to him....no "truncation" or whatever ever happened when i heard it.

Erin’s audio corner who has them now apparently cranked it to high heaven on his review as well.... and didn’t hear any "truncation"!!??

Seems to me like you are clipping/ doing something terrible to it with your "mac tubes"/ front end electronics ( and blaming it on the speaker instead).

Get a Schiit Wotan amp or Tyr monoblocks and a Kara preamp with Schiit’s "forkbeard" module/accessory. It will let you live monitor your power state, headroom, etc as you crank the music up and down...i.e., get a good front end dude. The guy who designed those speakers gave you a lot of speaker for minimal cost (didn’t rob you like the rest of them), so you can buy a decent front end.

"Seems to me like you are clipping/ doing something terrible to it with your "mac tubes"/ front end electronics ( and blaming it on the speaker instead.)"

Assuming everything was the same, lpweissman heard the Tekton Moab as "better". Something is causing the "break up" not the speaker?

My expectation for the 888's  is they should sound fantastic with  either SS or tubes.

+1 @deep_333 - I suspect clipping as well.  Andrew Jones has been at this way too long to miss a glaring speaker design error.

The 888 is a great sonic buy at its price point, maybe fair at double the price.