I'm not sure mathematics has ever revealed some all immersive memory information field or multicellular entity that would encompass the entire universe perhaps you have a link to some of this or is it a personal hypothesis of your own?
Love it when it snows
Nothing quiets things down like a nice blanket of snow. The roof is muffled, and the forest too. But I think there may be even more going on. Doesn't snow often here, but every time it sure does seem like the power is cleaner. For sure the listening is better.
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:) I am not much in believing... I am interested in the seeing...And geometry and numbers are very powerful telescope and microscope...The only problem is that we need years of study to see and I cannot give the perspective free of study and in a few words... Even if I can show to you the structure of this cellular entity, I can, you will doubt your eyes, and you must do some meditation on the drawing indeed... This is the most complex object of the universe because it is infinite and there is in it appearance of randomness and miraculous structure of order, and this is manifestation of "novelty" at a scale truly infinite : http://www.sievesofchaos.com/ I wanted to see with the mind eyes not believing... My best to you... |
In some years I will be dead and I must know something before dying...I decide that I cannot wait after physics and astrophysics to understand the ultimate nature of reality... Some years ago some physicist speak about the death of the universe like if it was the ultimate fate of the body-spirit of man...That was untrue.... But physics is divided by competitive theories, and no synthesis indicate the ultimate ground of reality, except indirectly trough the revolution of quantum mechanics... Physics is totally determined by the nature of the mathematical tools used and nothing more...The actual mathematical tools created in mathematics exceed by at least a century the tools used in contemporary physics...At least a century if not 2...Riemann created the geometry used by Einstein way before Einstein use it...Physics is constrained by some sensible aspect of reality in a way mathematics cannot be...Physics is linked to the structure history of only one universe, mathematics is cellular metabolism linking all universes... My inspiration came young with some intuition and after in the course of my life by meditation on the structure of the universal informational field, a universal memory, revealed to me by great mathematical discoveries including the most recent one... My study reveal to me the existence of an all immersive memory-information living field that is the only one reality...Mathematics reveal the structure of this multicellular entity and all mathematics is only that, the mind of god if you accept a metaphor of which the mind of man is only a small cellular part...... |
I use the term law metaphorically...I answer to your post about entropy and the fate of the universe...There is other "law" of information linked to physical process and to life process that indicate another direction for the ultimate fate of the sensible universe than death and "non sense"...... Bios is a method of data analysis that can reveal these" laws" metaphorically speaking that transcend death and random absurdity...Bios is the twin brother of chaos... Bios is a certain window determined by the dynamics of some simple deterministic equation that indicate "novelty" a name given by the discoverer to some structural aspect of the data that reveal an harmonic distribution of the order and of chaos... It is a method to analyse data and reveal some information that is not revealed by chaotic process ... «The discovery of Bios (Kauffman and Sabelli, 1998), an aperiodic pattern with the features of creativity (diversification, novelty, complexity) and the 1/f spectrum of natural processes provides a model to study creative processes. Bios is chaotic as being aperiodic, causal, and highly sensitive to inputs (“sensitivity to initial conditions”) but typical chaotic processes do not show diversification, novelty, complexity and 1/f spectrum. As creativity is fundamental, bios cannot be reduced to chaos. » I speak about that because we can analyse data in a way that may reveal an higher order of phenomena that trascend disosrder randomness and entropy ...It is not a law in the strict sense of the term, bios is a method to derive new information from any data...This information is linked to a new level of complexity not seen in pure chaotic process... https://www.innovation.cc/scholarly-style/2009_13_3_12_sabelli_bios-theory.pdf |
From what I understand "Bios" from your link, is not a law it’s not even a theory but a hypothesis on creative evolution. It postulates that life could have emerged not by determined unpredictability/chaos or supernatural beings/ Gods but by a certain process called determined novelty. It doesn’t address the nature of the universe so I am not sure what the point was in bringing it up in a discussion about whether it’s a determined universe or a chaotic one. The working theory the Big Bang assumes the universe is determined unpredictability or chaotic. |
There is a fifth dimension beyond that which is known to man. It is a dimension as vast as space and as timeless as infinity. It is the middle ground between light and shadow, between science and superstition, and it lies between the pit of man’s fears, and the summit of his knowledge. This is the dimension of imagination. It is an area which we call ... The Twilight Zone. 😲 |
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I've lost my mind/but I don't mind/become mostly blind/changed by our time/politically slime'd/financially crime'd/rhymed and dime'd/been sublime/less inclined/plied/fried/spy'd/declined/ *clunk* ...lost my virtue, Chump. Thanks...for nothin'..." Desolation, Roamed, 2020 Just another 'diss in the dark'...:) |
"I've been Ayn Randed, nearly branded a Communist, 'cuz I'm left handed. But that's the hand to use! Well, never mind." - A Simple Desultory Philippic - Paul Simon. Right handed myself, not that it matters...except to me.. I've always thought that giving up a tail was a bad bit of evolution....we always seem to need another hand on a daily basis....*tsk* But, we went and evolved so we need each other. Which is a gift and a lesson that we haven't evolved enough to to appreciate as much as we ought to.... ...and quickly, if we have as much sense as we give ourselves credit for... |
(...placing a "Do Not Fold, Bend, Spindle, or Mutilate" sticker on my backside....) Thanks, mahgister....it's good to have support, even if some will query your sanity....*G* "Humans will do what they always do, accommodate." ...and when they don't they'll slaughter or abuse whatever's in their way. Or, if overpowered, will simply 'lie low' until they can 'get the drop on those bastards!'... We really don't have a great 'track record' in many regards....so I shan't blame extraterrestrials for keeping us at a distance with a 10 parsec pole. That ought to be enough 'degrees of separation' for the while...;) I spend an amount of 'free mental time' considering the various 'n sundry.... What drives us to take opposite poles on an issue, even if things can be demonstrated accurately to support one viewpoint...and it alone? "Pseudo-science', 'Fake news', Lies vs. Statistics, "Guns don't kill people; People kill people"....the bees' in one's head that distract daily... "The royal couple has decided to 'live a Normal Life". OK, cool...define 'normal', as it seems everything But. If I met Kenjit in the flesh...would he actually be 'like-able' in most ways? Am I tolerable for longer than a post? (I heard that...back 'atcha...*L*) Is 'functional schizophrenia' becoming a means of coping in our 'modern era'? We think so....*oops*...I mean.... *L* ;) |
Chiming in, thanks for the Cash, maps....*S* We've all went through the eye of that needle in our various ways.... MC, absolutely...the Sun will go *foom* eventually, and I suspect long before then, we will have as well. However....there doesn't seem a real need to rush that scenario in the short term, right? Or, one would hope... Fascinating possibility of getting to see Betelgeuse 'go nova' perhaps in our current era...'course, it may have already but the 'light show' hasn't reached our neighborhood yet... Maybe we'll all become zombie's, due to some 'effects' we've no knowledge of. Maybe we'll all have all the brains we've lacked all this time...;) We certainly don't appear to have enough now....despite the greater majority of our best 'brains' pointing out that the greatest amount of information and details are indicating that We, the People...all of us, not just here in the (vaguely) United States (of divisions)....have fouled our nest enough to potentially make it break. "Yeah, we got dogs 'n Valvoline, it's a pretty damn good time...." And Plan B begins to look like ethical suicide on a large scale. Well, meanwhile....Happy Friday, y'all. :) |
Entropy is not the only factor... Life does not reduce itself to entropy... The universe is not chaos, beside chaos exist another kind of law : BIOS... http://homepages.math.uic.edu/~kauffman/BIOS.pdf In the universe the high scale structures are cellular and not chaotic... Chaos is one face of something more profound... In early post I cite William James Sidis articles, but this genius wrote a book I read, and in it at 20 years old, he predict black hole and the cellular structure of the universe ( dark matter and ordinary matter like on a chessboard the black and white) in 1920...He predict the existence of organic non living matter in the universe for example... He wrote this book when he was 16 years old and published it at 20...It is something to read...:) For the anecdote this is the greatest I.Q. ever measured, (he outweigh simply the scale) and he speak almost all known languages including most indian languages of the Americas, invent an artificial language at 12 years old (vandergod) and speak before a crowd of mathematicians (Buckminster Fuller was there by the way and Norbert Wiener) at Havard at age 12 about the 4th dimension and the way to project it in 3 d spaces accurately... ( the text of the conference is at Harvard) His bio read like science fiction and all that is reality...:) His goal in life was meditating and being unknown...(a task easy for most especially difficult for him if ever even possible) His life is forgotten now because too much incredible to be trusted true by those who had not known him... His genius is so great that the comparison with other child prodigies like Wiener and Von Neumann kept the stakes on his side... He learn greek alone at 4 years old after Latin and french and some others … I know what some will think but it is true... :) His father, almost a retard because he speak only 27 languages, cannot teach him at 8 years old anymore :)...the father obtain medicine diploma at a speed that is a rare feat, wrote 17 books on psychiatry, field in which he was one of the most important pioneer scientist in the end of the 19 century... His best friend was William James the philosopher and psychologist...He named his son after him.... |
I think you are more than right... and more than right is truth.... Thanks for this remark Millercarbon... My best to you.... But like said one of the great genius( I dont remember his name now) about mathematical truth.... « Truths exist in mathematics then perhaps God exist, but we cannot and never be able even for eternity to prove them all then the devil exist. » Wow! what of a gem this song of Johnny Cash.... Thanks Mapman... |
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What is inside, like the emptiness of the bowl or the center of a wheel cannot be a debatable commodity... « Thirty spokes share the hub of a wheel; yet it is its center that makes it useful. You can mould clay into a vessel; yet, it is its emptiness that makes it useful» Now Geoffkait debate that with Lao-tse... :) My best from the past to the future.... But I tease you indeed... I see your point also... :) |
Nobody can dispute that.... :) I report that only to demonstrate to some ostriches that the evident climate changes are not simple matters at all if we want to understand the situation... If we want to act it is not the Sun the important player, but the organization of one part of humanity that will be the involuntary host of millions of refugees for example, speaking here about only one of the "small" problems... Look inside.I cannot contradict you to say the least....Inside is the truth I speak about in the last days... :) |
The actual changes are certainly anormal and produced by the accumulate impact of man activities in a short span of times...But there is also some other factors at play... I am no scientist for sure...But it was my point... And if the human factor is coupled with other cosmic factor (sun) the situation is not pink for near future.... https://phys.org/news/2017-03-sun-impact-climate-quantified.html |
Of course the weather has been changing for millions of years, give me a break! That’s why there are called seasons. Hel-loo! We’re talking about extreme weather and weather-related events like monster fires 🔥 and monster tornados 🌪🌪. Monster floods, monster mudslides, monster earthquakes and Tsunami. Our solar system and our galaxy are in equilibrium, so look 👀 elsewhere for the answers to these burning questions. You can take the Sun, moon and stars off the table. Even solar flares 🌞 and sunspots. No offense to anyone living or dead. I suspect I’m probably the only one here who was involved with the International Sun-Earth Explorer ISEE satellites that studied the dynamic properties of Earth’s magnetosphere and the solar wind in front of the magnetosphere. |
Yeah the climate has been changing for 4.5 billion years, problem is humans couldn't have survived in about 95% of that time. If some naturally occurring force changes it so we can't survive again then nothing we can do. The only thing we can do it try to reduce the impact humans are having on the climate that's it, we can't stop volcanoes erupting. This planet is it we don't have a plan B. |
Which part exactly? The part where he claims methane isn't a big deal because there isn't a lot of it and what difference does it make because water vapor and carbon dioxide are in the same spectrum. Water vapor and carbon dioxide are the most abundant greenhouse gases but methane is more powerful as he said about 28 times carbon dioxide. Methane doesn't stay in the atmosphere as long so by reducing that we can get jump on climate change in the short run we were actually counting on reducing methane to meet the 2C increase but methane levels are rising thus the need to get a handle on it. The part where he dismisses methane because of some notion about it being in the same spectrum with the more abundant gases and being so much less then it doesn't really matter. The problem, or with him more likely distortion, is what happens with methane in its oxidation process in the atmosphere it becomes yeah, carbon dioxide and water vapor. The larger problem is when it does this in the stratosphere where water vapor creates a worse problem because it creates a feedback, warming the climate faster. The other thing is with so much methane now in the atmosphere the ability for it to naturally oxidize with the other chemicals is believed to be getting harder making it stay longer. |
The instable dynamics of the solar system makes impossible the linear climatical predictions on a long term... Actual economical human activity ask for collective thinking and solutions, and you were right, left ideology or right political agendas plays with the brains of people...But the situation is serious, never mind the fear agendas or the ostriches agendas...It seems human are like chickens, they distinguish only 2 possibilities... I am ok to be back to snow and music, I ask for that many posts ago, but some dont want to, and I stupidly goes after them, I will gives you that... :) |
Earth's environment has been changing for approximately 4.5 billion years give or take 50 million and it will continue to change. The next little wiggle on it's axis and we will be back in another ice age. Humans will do what they always do, accommodate. Climate change has been weaponized for political reasons by people who have no f-n idea what they are talking about. The pity is that too many actually believe them. Chicken Little. Now can we get back to snow and music?? |
Climate changes indeed there is.... They are linked to the Sun and solar system, not only to the degradation of eco system by stupid economical exploitation at levels never seen in the history... Actual situation of mankind is critical... No times for lazy brain... Left or right ideological agendas are a political distinction that stars, animals, and intelligent people dont lives with.( except historian and actually this week some American senators that cannot think for themselves it seems)... We need new political imagination for new era... That exist, but I dont want to be the sole provider of all links there is here.... :) I dont know if the actual situation of mankind excuse my rant...I hope so.... My best to all... last links perhaps: https://www.earth.com/news/planets-impacted-earths-climate/ https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/earths-orbital-shifts-may-have-triggered-ancient-global-warming/ |
A book review for a book on climate changes that is supposed to be very good by the skepticalscience group organization itself... https://skepticalscience.com/Book-Review-Global-Warming-Primer-Bennett.html And contemporary serious research on climate and solar system : https://blogs.ei.columbia.edu/2019/03/04/geological-orrery-solar-system-chaos/ |
For example I read about the work of Dr. Alexei Dmitriev, near 10 years ago... His work was confirmed by report of voyager space probe since...then discussion about the real causes of climate changes are not news to me at all...I can go on but the attention span of news papers readers tend to be short...And the climate changes ask for many articles, books, and thinking... At the times ostriches can deny easily reality without being stupid... "Times are changing" says I dont remember who... For the influences of the sun on world population, I will pick an old paper(1918), by William James Sidis, a man no one dare to call stupid, who in a short study show some evidences...This is fun to read, and if you dont know him, his life is stuff for science fiction books only... If you linked Dr. Dmitriev study with the Sun cycles influences on climate and people, showed By Sidis you will know why people are crazier than ever now...Because of these coming changes... But the real news is this one and this one is no more a theory like Sidis or Dmitriev but hard scientific measured fact that gives confirmation to Sidis and Dmitriev: https://agupubs.onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/full/10.1029/2018RG000629 «The strength of Earth’s magnetic field in the past, recorded by rocks and sediments, provides a proxy for past flux of ultraviolet radiation (UVR) to Earth’s surface due to the role of the field in modulating stratigraphic ozone. About 40,000 years ago, mammalian fossils in Australia and Eurasia record an important die‐off of large mammals that included Neanderthals in Europe. In the Americas and Europe, a large mammalian die‐off appears to have occurred ~13,000 years ago. » to be continued in the link just on top Climate on earth and crowds ostriches psychology is unexplainable out of this link to the sun and to the general condition of the solar system... https://www.sidis.net/Revolution.htm https://www.huffpost.com/entry/passing-into-the-energy-c_b_405086 |
https://www.psychologytoday.com/gb/blog/denying-the-grave/201901/climate-change-denial Climate changes there are, it is plain open to see... They are not mostly and uniquely the results of human activities... The situation unbeknownst to most is far more critical, these changes are linked to greater changes in the solar system and Sun... But these news are not simple fact for ostrich newspapers... They are up to date specialized studies nowhere to be found except by those who search for some explanation...The irresponsible action of humanity economically does not help at all and increase the destruction of all life embeddings eco-systems... Negating this is ignorance and probably stupidity, which is only the persistant pursuit of different effects with the same economical recipe... My best to all... |
More actual science https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VokewpSZYPM and them's the facts. We now return you to our regularly scheduled chatter. |
I was always a sucker for Red Skelton: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f7cN3cxSpQc https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J65J9JLoQVk All the best, Nonoise |