Listening Descriptor Chart

This is a great find.  Thank you very much for sharing.

@djones51    Thanks!  

That is very cool.
He should sell that as a poster to reference when your comparing a speaker you are interested in.

No millercarbon post is complete without the gratuitous dig. I mentioned listener development in the beginning. Two times recently I tried to initiate a serious discussion. Both times wrecked by the usual thread-wreckers. Imagine where we could be if these jackovs would just keep to themselves. We could just maybe climb up above the first rung of the ladder.

Oh, my.
Playing the victim again I see.
For those unfamiliar with miller's recent thread, things were going along smoothly until he, going off topic, spit out a libelous accusation towards not one, but several members in good standing on this forum. When the accused members defended themselves with the truth and asked him to explain his accusation, he abandoned his own thread, never to be heard again. Pity he must be this way. He has much to contribute. But, he is who he is. I shall say no more of this, as I do not wish to have a fine thread go off topic.

There’s been a couple times now I have written about listening skills and listener development. The beginning or bottom rung is volume. Frequency response is nothing more than volume- how loud each different frequency sounds. Both these charts that is all they are for, the very bottom rung.

Nowhere on these are the higher levels of listening. There is no diagram for attack, fundamental, decay. No image focus, depth, palpable presence. Not presence, which is a frequency range, but palpable presence, the eerie feeling of the performer being physically present in the room.

Yet another level above these, every instrument, every person, every sound, has a fundamental frequency that is accompanied by a whole wide spectrum of harmonic resonances. Often these go far up into the ultra-sonic. Frequencies higher than we can hear. But yet, see the discussions on super-tweeters- NOT higher than we have hearing able to detect! Just because we don’t hear these as discrete tones doe not mean we don’t hear them. In fact there are more ear cells devoted to these than to the frequencies we can hear as discrete tones. It even turns out this ability to hear these ultra-sonic frequencies declines less with age than the commonly tasted frequency band used on both these charts.  

When these ultra-sonic frequencies are present it greatly improves our sense of space and envelopment. Something very similar happens when the extreme low end is reproduced accurately. None of which- neither the frequency range nor the envelopment effects- are so much as hinted at on these graphics.  

So yeah, nice work on the graphics. Good for what they are. Useful for learning to listen, especially if you are just starting out.

No millercarbon post is complete without the gratuitous dig. I mentioned listener development in the beginning. Two times recently I tried to initiate a serious discussion. Both times wrecked by the usual thread-wreckers. Imagine where we could be if these jackovs would just keep to themselves. We could just maybe climb up above the first rung of the ladder.

Glad to see I’m not the only one who got a kick out this.

When I look at both together it makes me second-guess using small band recordings only to judge how my system is handling the whole spectrum. We're gonna need a bigger band! Cheers,

Spencer

Thank you. I was hoping something like this would surface!

Never seen a chart like that. The amount of thought and effort that went into it must have been more than a bit taxing. 

I can imagine all the ruminating right now on how to incorporate full scale equalization to combat all that's thought wrong with one's system, using that chart as a guide.😄Thanks.

All the best,
Nonoise

Here's a cheat sheet for EQ'ing. It also useful for seeing the frequencies where you might have some problems. 

https://cheatography.com/fredv/cheat-sheets/eq-tips/

Excellent post!  Thank you for sharing with us!

I had no idea these types of charts even existed!

I made a comment to my eldest daughter a few years ago that in my opinion music was the most complex language in the universe.

She scoffed at the old man and vemonently disagreed.

I forwarded her the link to both charts.

VERY  interesting. Thank you Spencer and Mapman.

Great chart. Just used it to add a 0.2 boost at 200 Hz to fatten up voices. Big grin.  Thank you.

Outstanding. Thank you!

Interesting and appreciated. Thanks.

Very cool.  Thanks for sharing!

Here is another useful and interactive one that has been out for awhile. I have a framed printed copy up on the wall of my hifi room for easy reference.
https://alexiy.nl/eq_chart/

Note the interactive supplemental info to the right including ear sensitivity which when factored in really helps one to understand what they are hearing and why. 

Very informative and useful. Thanks for pointing it out. 

Thanks Spencer

Yes, great diagram -- and one some of us might add to with our own phrases. Much appreciated.

@sbank, that's a very interesting, and helpful diagram. Thanks for linking to it.