I'm Just Not Hearing It..., Do You???

I'll have to listen to it tonight...later.

Tiring of listening, fatigue, and headache are all symptoms of a problem in your system. High frequency hash and distortion causes these problems.  Old or inexpensive digital or solid state cause these problems. These are obvious  symptoms of a serious problem. I recommend approaching it as a problem, and not living with it. I have experienced it in the past and once gone, it is absolutely wonderful.

I can listen to my system (digital or analog) for hours and have to pull myself away. The moment I turn on my system I fall into its comforting quiet and bathed in warm beckoning music. Never jacked up or on edge because of it.  So many system strive for pulling out detail that they end up with all sorts of harsh artifacts that while not easily heard destroy the comfort of the listener. 

@triton20trx 

”l don’t need to know why but that’s just the way it is”

”l can listening to vinyl through tube amplification l can listen all day or night”

Same emotional feeling with me. My vinyl just sounds more beguiling than anything digital l have. Not a conscious thought and judged just the way my ears vote for how many hours l listen to both. I would say a ratio of about 3 to 1

l naturally reach for the vinyl 75% (or more) without a thought which is against the Maths (math in USA) as l have fewer records than CD’s.
My CD collection overtook my records only during the 25 years when new vinyl was not an option to buy. I suppose for me, that says it all.

I don’t know what media conveys the music better.  There are good and bad recordings of the same album delivered on streaming, cds, or vinyl.  
 

One thing I have noticed for me.  Listening to digital music and /or solid state amplification I tire and get a headache after 1-2 hours.  When listening to vinyl through tube amplification I can listen all day or night.  I don’t need to know why but that’s just the way it is for me.

I have this one.

https://youtu.be/dbPy7hxvj9Q

BTW, I do believe that it was The Ocean that I remember the pedal squeak on.  And even now, I can still hear the pedal mechanism.

https://youtu.be/oqAmnEKlIZw

Vince Guaraldi

l have known of this artist for 55 years…. Frightening thinking that.  I have had the original soundtrack from the film “A Boy Named Charlie Brown” since l was a boy. He wrote this spin off “special” instrumental music in 1970. I noticed an old re-recording by his Jazz “Trio” playing Charlie Brown material was issued on a 2025 Record Store Day LP.
 

You could say he started playing for peanuts but garnered a nice little earner composing for the long running TV cartoon series.

The idea is that a second set of ears didn’t hear it either and she is a bit more than half my age (40s maybe).  But she is here several times a week and when we listened to the YT version, we both heard the very low noises toward the beginning and these are barely audible.  She pointed it out and asked if that’s to what I was referring.  Again, we were listening for a distinctive "squeak" like you would hear from a spring mechanism that needs to be lubricated.

She is a big jazz and music fan (I always hear her car stereo playing when she pulls up) and loves the sound of my stereo.  Her favorite in my collection is Vince Guaraldi doing the Peanuts themes.  When I talk of classic rock bands, she knows who I’m talking about and is familiar with the songs.

She lives in a studio with her daughter and could never afford even a modest system let alone have a place to set it up. Her occupation has nothing to do with it.

Observation…. “I also had my wife’s heathcare worker listen”

Being a wife’s healthcare worker does not guarantee that person has good healthy ears.

This discussion is just getting sillier by the minote. 🎶

l was listening to an old concert recording and heard the musicians turning over their pages. I thought…”that’s not music, why is that there?” Then l thought, “yes it is music”

I was able to hear it listening on YT with headphones, until the guitar gets louder and masks it, as another user pointed out. But I'm blessed with fairly good hearing for a 66 year old. We all hear differently so I'm not surprised not everyone can. On Masterpieces By Ellington, Solitude, near the end of Strayhorn's piano solo there is a wooden squeak that I think is Billy adjusting himself on the piano stool. I also noticed a squeak on a Miles track where he removes his Harmon mute on his trumpet. To me these are just fun little organic sounds that are part of making music. As simao said, little Easter eggs. There are a side effect of focused listening and a relatively resolving hi-fi. Part of what makes high end audio fun.

I have the original CD and listened on the AKG headphones and still don’t hear it.  

I also had my wife’s healthcare worker listen on YT to Remastered version, nearfield, and she couldn’t hear it as a squeak.  She is really big into jazz.  We certainly heard other low level noises.

Maybe people are describing it differently, or maybe this is like the Emperor’s New Clothes...

Maybe it was one of the other tracks I remember hearing it on as a kid.  There are several that are of a similar "groove."  Maybe I’m going to have to listen to the early catalog on headphones to see if I can pick it out.

You definitely don’t need any fancy equipment to hear it. I can hear it loud and clear on my phone using Qobuz.

This seems similar to listening for that creek of the piano stool Ringo was sitting on when they played that final note of "A day in the life". No, it's not necessary to enjoying the music, but it is a fun little Easter egg.

I can hear it on the remaster , Qobuz. 
 

almost sounds like it could be something intentional if you didn’t know what it was, like a Mark Tree, or, I hear a Mark Tree and no squeak?

Don't need super high resolving system to hear it. Now I suppose they could remove it during remastering, I don't know why they would but its possible some remaster out there has eliminated it.

Listening to Led Zeppelin III 24/94 Hi Res Remaster on Qobuz through headphones, the squeaking is obvious from the start until Jimmy ramps it at about the 45 second mark, especially if you are listening for it.

biwire, that’s what I’m wondering.

Certainly seems like it should be there if it’s there.  My Heil nearfield.

Squeaky hi-fidelity clean topic.

I heard leather squeaks occasionally when listening to my set up. My sofa must be ultra high resolving…. Some of my doors too. I later discovered they had nothing to do with music, and it was reassuring to know that everything was working just fine

Yes I hear it. Unfortunately I also hear it in my right hip replacement. 😆

The self-important types would say if your system isn't resolving enough (read: expensive enough) you won't be able to hear it. I agree with 2psyop, just enjoy the music.

That pedal squeak is in the CD transfer. Could be that your hearing isn't as acute due to age. Believe me, as an aging boomer there are many things I can't achieve or perceive anymore...

I hear it clearly, on LP, CD, and on the file in my music library. I think it is very slightly more noticeable on the LP.

Why would you NOT want to hear it, one can have resolution, transparency and music, not a zero sum game.

Has everything to do with music.  If it's there, I want to hear it.

So, does anyone hear it here???  Maybe I’m not listening for the right "thing", but I seem to recall it being a fairly distinct squeak from the early records.

Maybe it was a European pressing?  My friend had quite a collection and introduced me to all kinds of Rock back in the day.

https://youtu.be/wfPRgAD4pw8

What does this have to do with music? 

It's EASILY heard ONLY if you have this press,

played on a Tech Das Zero w/ Etsuro Gold cartridge.

https://www.discogs.com/release/2241197-Led-Zeppelin-Led-Zeppelin-III

Seriously, at least on my modest rig and period US press it's subtle, but you have to be focused on listening for it-that takes away from the listening experience.

Kinda like hearing hearing the palm of a hand on the back of the guitar neck.

I'm guessing on  a generic CD  it's buried from the processing?

I first heard the squeaks many, many years ago, assumed everyone heard it.

I only listen to CD. I'll listen for the squeak tonight.

Curious minds want to know!

I listen to the music and enjoy it. I really don't get caught up in the media I use. It's much easier for me to close my eyes and forget the equipment, much more  enjoyable of an experience. But I get your question...just not my cup of tea.

We are listening for the "squeak" in the kick drum pedal assembly.

What is "it" that you are no longer hearing?