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You should include any injection of politics by a poster. This quickly derails any thread.
I Don't Understand What Determines When A Thread Gets The Axe
I've only been a member of Audiogon since 2016 or 2017, so maybe some "old timers" could fill me in. I don't understand how threads covering "beaten like a dead horse" topics, for example, oh off the top of my head, "Cable Deniers", can carry on for days or weeks, have pages and pages of posts from Members that frankly get quite ugly with name calling and basically Grade School playground behavior...yet the Moderators never say a word or never step in with the, "This Discussion Is Closed" Czar-like ruling.
However, when a Member like, say @verdantaudio, tries to warn us about Fraudulent Retail Websites AND has proof that these sites are ripping people off, along with proof from other Audiogon Members who provide examples of these sites conducting fraudulent business activities, the Discussion is shut down and closed. WHO decided to close the discussion? The original poster? Audiogon? How do you find out? Better yet, WHY was a topic as important as Fraud shut down after only 30 posts, some with extremely valuable information such as one member who had done a Whois.com research showing extremely sketchy information and another Member who had information about the state of Kansas Fraud Unit investigating one of the companies.
Is it because a Forum Member kept complaining about the post? Do the businesses in question advertise on Audiogon? I'm very curious who makes the decisions on which discussions get shut down and which discussions are allowed to drone on and on with behavior and comments that people would NEVER have the guts to say to one another face to face. I've truly wondered this ever since I joined this fantastic audio community -- a place where I've learned more in 7 years than I had learned in the previous 35 years!
I must say I wasn't at all surprised when I saw the discussion had been closed. After all, a Member had made this cryptic post -- "My guess is this thread won't last." Let's see how long this one does (before it gets zapped, I'd sure like to know the outcome of the Kansas fraud unit that is investigating the company).
Slow down and enjoy the music...
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...and even whatever mentioned in the guidelines not enough and can be removed for reason or no reason and the best remedy is just to deal with that or try to re-introduce post. As I noted before some of the moderations going automoderated and certain few getting reviewed by Support Agent. One way or the other there’s still large probability of post being removed for good reasons that can flag the algorithm and get blocked or removed for just software misdesign and mishap. AAnd Yes, if your post was removed by automoderation, you will get that message shown above by Audiogon Associate.
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@cleeds I submitted several of those forms prior and no response on any and no survey either. Maybe certain inquiries get attention and certain don't so go figure. |
That’s not how it works here at all, @czarivey. When you submit through the Contact Us link (it’s at the bottom of every page) you’ll get an almost immediate e-mail autoreply and ticket number. That will be followed by a personal email (not a chatbot) and followup. The "intervention" is human and very much thoughtful. A few days or so after your question or issue is resolved, you’ll get an automated survey form about your experience. It’s fair to complain where warranted, but let’s give credit where credit is due to the people who run Audiogon. |
@deep_333 I had a thread where I highlighted two URLs that were obvious fraud. These are not established sites or anyone I have beef with. I am not reposting as to not get this thread killed. They have a lot of products listed that they don't have access too (I distribute or manufacture several of the lines) and others chimed in that they aren't selling to them either. This is despite the fact that they have these products listed as available and at prices that are well below my cost as the importer and manufacturer. The sites were hastily thrown together. Poorly formatted and nothing about them seems even vaguely legitimate. Additionally, I had a customer who literally experienced having his CC # stolen from one of them. This is what was taken down.
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@cleeds I’m pretty sure that
..will get ignored. Moderators I’m sure using algorithm to define threads to be removed without any human intervention. The whole site pretty much is designed by amateur crew for cheap and that’s what you get to use and live with that pretty much. |
I must have missed this Verdant thread. Hmm, Verdant is a dealer himself. Was it a case of disguised mud slinging on competitors so he could improve his sales?..."Him bad...Him fraud...Verdant very very good...Verdant very honest, Buy from Verdant, don’t buy from Him, etc, etc?", And you, OP, why did you have to mention Verdant on this thread? Now, hmmm, this creates some additional suspicion on the motive behind this thread. The Kansas thread...i recall that it was also looking like someone was trying to accuse a different dealer who had nothing to do with the crook.. Anyways...I dream of a utopia one day when everything in hifi is manufacturer direct with no 50 to 70% dealer markups,...a beautiful utopia with no greedy overgrown "passionate" dealers.
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It was almost certainly the moderators. If you truly want to find out, you can use the Contact Us link at the bottom of the page and inquire.
That doesn't seem cryptic to me at all. Notwithstanding your "czar" comment, the moderators here seem even-handed and consistent to me. That's why I knew the thread was doomed. |
