I Don't Understand What Determines When A Thread Gets The Axe
I've only been a member of Audiogon since 2016 or 2017, so maybe some "old timers" could fill me in. I don't understand how threads covering "beaten like a dead horse" topics, for example, oh off the top of my head, "Cable Deniers", can carry on for days or weeks, have pages and pages of posts from Members that frankly get quite ugly with name calling and basically Grade School playground behavior...yet the Moderators never say a word or never step in with the, "This Discussion Is Closed" Czar-like ruling.
However, when a Member like, say @verdantaudio, tries to warn us about Fraudulent Retail Websites AND has proof that these sites are ripping people off, along with proof from other Audiogon Members who provide examples of these sites conducting fraudulent business activities, the Discussion is shut down and closed. WHO decided to close the discussion? The original poster? Audiogon? How do you find out? Better yet, WHY was a topic as important as Fraud shut down after only 30 posts, some with extremely valuable information such as one member who had done a Whois.com research showing extremely sketchy information and another Member who had information about the state of Kansas Fraud Unit investigating one of the companies.
Is it because a Forum Member kept complaining about the post? Do the businesses in question advertise on Audiogon? I'm very curious who makes the decisions on which discussions get shut down and which discussions are allowed to drone on and on with behavior and comments that people would NEVER have the guts to say to one another face to face. I've truly wondered this ever since I joined this fantastic audio community -- a place where I've learned more in 7 years than I had learned in the previous 35 years!
I must say I wasn't at all surprised when I saw the discussion had been closed. After all, a Member had made this cryptic post -- "My guess is this thread won't last." Let's see how long this one does (before it gets zapped, I'd sure like to know the outcome of the Kansas fraud unit that is investigating the company).
Slow down and enjoy the music...
@cleeds I’m pretty sure that
..will get ignored. Moderators I’m sure using algorithm to define threads to be removed without any human intervention. The whole site pretty much is designed by amateur crew for cheap and that’s what you get to use and live with that pretty much. |
@cleeds I submitted several of those forms prior and no response on any and no survey either. Maybe certain inquiries get attention and certain don't so go figure. |
...and even whatever mentioned in the guidelines not enough and can be removed for reason or no reason and the best remedy is just to deal with that or try to re-introduce post. As I noted before some of the moderations going automoderated and certain few getting reviewed by Support Agent. One way or the other there’s still large probability of post being removed for good reasons that can flag the algorithm and get blocked or removed for just software misdesign and mishap. AAnd Yes, if your post was removed by automoderation, you will get that message shown above by Audiogon Associate.
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@yowser, @audiogon I once got post removed literally containing "Bad Music Matters!" slogan LOL. Looks like "Don't even THINK about even indirect referral to..." |
@cleeds You do seem to be the most righteous member of Audiogon having luxury of receiving answers on why your post or discussion is getting removed. I'm not sure if there are more members with such privilege, but for us "simple folks" discussions and posts being removed either with auto-answer or with no answer at all whether we use Contact Us link or don't I too want to give you medal for that -- how about "Honored Audiogon Member Veteran", because you really deserve it! As for you @allenf1963 , you can clearly see what's happening. After the post removed, just try to "play" with different words so you can beat the underdeveloped algorithm of Audiogon. It often works. Looks like word Fraud is too political so you can use wrongly spelled version like "FROD" as an example, or replace with less heavy synonyms. |
I often realize that people live more free when they tolerate more and "law-enforce" less. It's a lot less spending than enforcing more and more rules. The more group of people such as nation or community or regional reasonably can tolerate, less effort needed to enforce rules. Therefore I do not mind conversations turning toward Hanover Hounds and appreciate Audiogon going light on this discussion after hearing and viewing enough of complains and confrontations about them folks doin not too great stoppin and removing entire legit discussions even more than "every so often". |
Now, it clearly figures that threads bashing ultra-mega-jumbo-mumbo-priced components such as 6-figures on pretty-much any component will get axed. manufacturers of such equipment are watching this site to interfere and ask to shut it down manually. Rockplrt-Lyra thread had been recently closed mainly because of that. Admins and Audiogon staff status becoming very shaky and untrustworthy indeed!!!
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Recently axed for NO REASON other than conversation about high-priced 6-figure speaker: https://forum.audiogon.com/discussions/sad-news-jay-sold-his-new-rockport-lyra-speakers |
