I was alluding to an EVIDENT trend in inflation not to a specific date....
By the way thanks for your more than generous appreciation of me....
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Finance is like Audio very complex to understand at FIRST sight ! A field of science or an aspect of life are always difficult to understand but way less if we replace MANY complementary perspectival views on reality by a singular inforced MAP ... This is what is the central banking system... His modern incarnation after the foundation of the B.I. S. is understandable easily if we know that...
In audio the many necessary perspectical views on audiophile experience was focused and conditioned by technology progress for good reasons yes, but way more importantly by gear marketing INSTEAD of acoustic/psycho-acoustic (A./P.A.)science investigation in most audio threads... Here also the electronical design map fetichism was hiding sound reality A./P.A. experience in the consumers mind ... |
I always enjoy reading your posts..please enlighten though. By what date will something happen that causes what to happen? I enjoy circling a date certain on the calendar to ensure I'm paying attention. |
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Spot on post ! Thanks very much.... Free speech is dying not by being erased so much or directly forbidden every where like in Soviet or China more like being cornered in a box and counter attack by Strategically systematic encompassing controls in all publishing spaces......And sometimes by irrational and self destructive laws like in Canada where even speech is constrained... Even in audiogon forums, members are erased from existence WITHOUT explanation like my friend oldhvymec was.... No traces.... No recourse it seems....No explanations... And perhaps i could understand in some way why M.C. was erased but why this humorous poster like the old mechanic could have been banned and for what undisclosed motives ? No answers... Perhaps i will be banned too? 😁
No respect for human being everywhere in North -America despite the pretense to BE the free world...It is tragically untrue now ar at least way less true then it was in 1945.....I will not argue with mature adults acting like "children" who will contradict this visible evidence... The king has no clothes anyway... What we see is an increasing way toward a more controlling society with a conditioning of individuals meeting and classified in crowds with many conflicting flags... Power divide to reign indeed...Simple Macchiavellian rule... The best trick is to make a slave who want and dream to be one at all cost, like in Orwell and in Mandeville books...
Like said a famous Greek philosopher: " Point me a man now " ?
«No free thinker walk always to the left or always to the right, when you trace your own road you dont look back»- An anonymus defeated politician
To answer this thread the cost of hi-fi has never increased like the prize of butter in Canada.... From 3 dollars few years ago to 9 canadian dollars at regular price.... Then..... Hifi is cheap compared to butter.... For most of us.... Some here dont even know the cost of butter....Anyway wait a few months and you will discover deals in hi-fi used section....Guess why? 😁 |
There is absolutely zero reason for the financial trail of evidence to be that complex. It’s a purposely complexified fluffer box of smoke and mirrors. That much is obvious. Regarding finance and monetary aspects of the Fed, it is as GWHB is reported to have said, "The truth? If the people knew the truth, we’d be hung off the nearest lamppost!" the entire scope of the Jekyll island story (for lack of a better simple encompassing reference that can be researched and dug into) clearly illustrates that it is still a form of hard imperialism with oligarchs, as a running pack, that exist behind this wall of purposely obscured fluff around the dollar and world banks that serves as a cover for unrestricted oligarchy that is totally out of control. The idea of democracy has just been a way of making the reins and tasps seem non existent, when in fact, it is deeply enforced for those who accidentally or purposely touch it’s edges and limits. With the current situation regarding covid and now the Ukraine, it is obvious to the trained mind, that it’s ass is sticking out and you can see the muscles and motions beneath the skin. It’s visible, for those who actually look. and it’s a very sick and sad feeling, to witness it, at best. Or, completely sane and in total control, if you strip any aspect of human empathy and reason from the conversation and analysis. If a person can’t explain the true fundamentals of what world finance and the US petro-dollar is to a 10 year old, a person is either lying or deeply misinformed or uninformed, or incapable of decoding the purposeful wall of fluff themselves. Just my experience...... 🙂
FYI, it is a VERY useful topic for an audio form, for the reason that the discussion and thus the fundamental and important revelations for all, are not taking place anywhere else. Akin to the idea of ’protest zones’ for the white house. Where one can protest, in a walled off box, in a small wooded area, some 10 miles out of town Unheard and unseen. Where the system that is the problem, won’t have to deal with the public becoming informed by the existence of the protest and the conversation around the protest. The forums (yes, in this case audio forums) are the only darned place left where the connected and concerned --- actually meet. The rest is just controlled propaganda from different parties and players, like parasites fighting over what part of the host they get to control via their attempts to be hypnotically repetitive and Orwellian in their misinformation. Where in said major media.. individuals do their darnedest to hang on to their sense of comfort via the self hypnotic relfective that is their chosen set of foolishness to listen to. Like bad marriages/relationshsips that they don’t possess the emotional will to separate themselves from.
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A brilliantly inspired retort. Actually it’s a mini masterpiece from start to finish. I wish I’d written it. Yes, it will be uncomfortable for some, and for others, still operating behind the ’smoke and mirrors’, it might make little sense intially, but that’s even more reason to read it twice, is it not? You really do owe it to yourself. |
I hope this statement isn’t viewed as too political, it is just my opinion. From the first day of the new administration, it seems everything was done to curtail energy independence. Was it because it was the opposite of what the previous administration was doing? My wife seems to think so. But why? Everything we eat, buy or do are related to some type of transportation and the higher that cost the more everything will cost. Electric cars, windmills, solar power are still very much in its infant stage. Heck someday I may even buy an electric car. When and if they are a more reliable and a cost-effective choice. But for now, we must control our own country’s needs. And that includes not relying on other governments. The world is just too volatile. Just MY Humble Opinion. BTW, I do have Geothermal heating and cooling in my home. This is because for me it was cost effective. ozzy |
It's not a surprise. It's just that the magnitude of money printing lately that is alarming along with total US debt. If you look at the US debt gragh, it just took off.
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Gas prices are not Trump's nor Biden's nor Millard Filmore's fault. Oil refiners curtailed production due to the fall off in demand over the past several years. Refiners will ramp up production only to the point where they wont materially hurt current margins when balanced with their desired production and profitability goals.
Money has been printed since the beginning of recorded time...why is anyone surprised? The money supply will always grow as population grows. If you are concerned about the value of your savings, Bitcoin is always an option I guess. |
One only need look at reviews posted 3-4 years ago to see that prices for many components have gone up 10%-20% over the past few years, due to the factors cited by many in this thread - supply and demand, economic conditions, supply chain pressures, etc. . But if you look back at a source like Stereophile Recommended component listings from the 1990s, prices then and now don't seem out of line. If anything, today's value components seem like a greater bargain compared to what I see listed from the 90s. The ultra-high-end has always been focused on a limited number of buyers who either have the resources or the appetite to tie up a significant portion of their net worth in an audio system. They can have at it, but for my purposes I'm pretty psyched about the ability to put together a truly musical system at just about any price point. |
I think low and modest cost components offer more value than ever...so much of the expensive gear if bought used is easy to sell for little loss a few years later...and I remember a manufacturer of an extremely expensive amp saying he expected to sell 2 or 3 a year worldwide, so these prices are not really representative of the industry... |
A "bit too much" for what? The USA and most other countries represented on this site practice free enterprise. In the absence of monopolies and other nefarious/illegal practices, merchants set their pricing based on what the market will bear and based on their desired business model. Within legal boundaries, there is no rule that the pricing of home hi-fi equipment must stay below the level of inflation. Buyers decide what they like and vote with their wallets. Businesses thrive or die based on the outcome. What would you change? As someone else pointed out, with luxury items, not everyone can afford everything. That fact really has not changed over time, but maybe the expectation has. At least most people have the opportunity to change their circumstance, and while socio-economic factors and luck can influence the outcome, the combination of hard work, education, and living within your means usually go a long way toward improving one's condition. |
Like all markets, there are low and high-cost goods. Currently, all goods are going up in price. We are all along for the ride. Sadly the future does not look good on so many fronts not the least of which are the traitors( by design or thru stupidity) currently attempting to overthrow our democracy through lies and manipulations. |
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WTF, to diminish and dilute the evil that was the Holocaust in a "quip". So off topic that it beggars belief, but I'm glad the opportunity exists for the David Irving apologists to display their true colors for all to witness. |
@ozzy - The Bottle Rockets album - "The Brooklyn Side", that contains the song - "Thousand Dollar Car" is an awesome album. Wish it had been released on vinyl... |
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Only if you let them. Any business will keep jacking up their price until people will stop buying. You can spend as much as you would like or you can do your research and get a great sounding system for a reasonable price. This hobby is like others where people will spend double the price for a 5% increase in sound. If that is what they figure is a good return on investment I will never be the one to question it. You can spend $2000 on a car or $200,000. They both get you from point a to b just in different ways in your head and looks! |
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@teo_audio the ride you got to take,and the ability to make investments and so on, was supported, nay enabled almost entirely- by the taking of the blood and life of others. Get a life. I am also Canadian and resent the implication that my own success is not entirely due to 40 years of hard work. No one handed me anything my friend. I suggest you need to find a forum that specializes in self flagellation. |
US national debt clock: https://www.usdebtclock.org/ The FED is a giant ponzi scheme. Actually the US debt to GPD ratio is not as bad as among the world leading economy. |
Taxing the hell out of the top !% is not going to solve the US’s financial problems. The net worth of the top 1% according to the Federal Reserve is 42.5 trillion dollars as of June of last year. If the US confiscated the entire net worth of the top 1%, it would pay off our current national debt of 30 trillion dollars and cover the federal government’s spending for another year or two.. The additional amount of money the government would get by taxing or confiscating those further down the net worth list (top 2%, top 10%) would shrink rapidly. Whenever this take from the rich and give to the poor approach has been tried, it has resulted in economic disaster for everyone except those high up in the government. Governments are just not good at running economies. Although It is a shame that so much wealth is concentrated among so few, the solution is not having the government take their money. It is for our society to become less materialistic, and that includes us. The people on this forum are probably among the top 1% in net worth if we look at the population of the entire world. So if we want to spread the money around more equitably, the solution is for everyone to buy less and give more. |
"Noam Chomsky once quipped that if the Nuremberg laws and regs applied just post WWII, were moved forward and applied fairly to all, up to today’s date, that each and every president since then, would be hung by the neck until dead, for the crimes of genocide on the world stage."
Chomsky was right, but even he, like Pilger and others, dare not tell it straight. No president since Kennedy has been able to speak up against the cabal that control the world’s money supply. Does Congress control the Federal Reserve, or is it the other way around? In any case it’s never a good idea to allow your national debt to surpass your GDP, is it? What other result can you expect other than lifelong economic slavery for the working people? As they say, nothing in life is certain, apart from death and taxes.
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KPMG audited the FED in 2021. The President appoints and Senate approves the board of governors. The FED exists by act of Congress and can be abolished by act of Congress. Now go back to blabbing about fuses, nano goop, cable direction and other mindless drivel. |
Noam Chomsky once quipped that if the Nuremberg laws and regs applied just post WWII, were moved forward and applied fairly to all, up to today's date, that each and every president since then, would be hung by the neck until dead, for the crimes of genocide on the world stage. That, as actions may go, was inextricably tied to the policies of the Fed, an outfit which is entirely private and has never been audited. the ride you got to take,and the ability to make investments and so on, was supported, nay enabled almost entirely- by the taking of the blood and life of others. It's an unpopular reality,and I, being in Canada do not escape the crime at all... but if looked at openly and honestly it is indeed true. We may have both been born into it, but that does not lend it integrity nor humanity. |
@bigtwin +1 |
@andy2 Where does that cash come from? In my case, and I expect most others on this site, it came from a lifetime of hard word, living below my mothly income so I always had something left to invest for my future, making prudent investments over several decades and not expecting the government or anyone one else for that matter to be responsible for be past retirement age. "The Fed" had nothing to do with it. |
The 800 lb elephant in the room is the political facts that are part of the answer to the original question. Govt regulations ,Printing $$$, inflation, etc etc. The alarming thing IMO is that 25-30% of the people do NOT see the things that are going on right before their very eyes. Then they point to those who do and say, you are stupid, crazy ridiculous. I'm reminded of the cable, fuse, tweak threads, of late |
I agree, under that premise of thought.
but I’m saddened that the forums, which were supposed to be our great common conversation that was to serve as the undercurrent of all, that was to ’save us’ (where we could talk) is now so far gone that there are no conversations between people that the common person can meet up with... and discuss these incredibly important things. Where the modern world with it’s billion channels, have conditioned us, individually, to ignore the world’s complexities for our own self stroking. Where via this self enacted method in the face of the individualized programming and petting of our egos and emotions .... we are collectively --- defeated. I was worried about this potential and the shape of it to come - and it has arrived. I was worried about this in the late 80's -early 90's. One could see it coming even with the Internet's earliest beginnings.... and here it is.. |
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You should have just let it go. The problem, here.... is that.. in a fair and balanced estimate of what was said, probably 75-90% of the world, not just a near if not majority (recent polls) of the USA ...agree with most of his post. The problem - is individualism. The solution - is individualism. Both conditions are perfectly, impossibly, incontrovertibly- true. Good luck to you all.... |
this statement genius. We all must have goal dream vision execution unless we ultimate be unfill robot cog in large picture. No just bench press say to self I going bench press 250. No just go work to fix pipe but maybe think can I teach crew guy to fix pipe and I schedule and market and do book. Go get some somethin and lady flick to you when find rhythm and jacked. |
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There is absolutely zero reason for the financial trail of evidence to be that complex. It’s a purposely complexified fluffer box of smoke and mirrors. That much is obvious. Regarding finance and monetary aspects of the Fed, it is as GWHB is reported to have said, "The truth? If the people knew the truth, we’d be hung off the nearest lamppost!" the entire scope of the Jekyll island story (for lack of a better simple encompassing reference that can be researched and dug into) clearly illustrates that it is still a form of hard imperialism with oligarchs, as a running pack, that exist behind this wall of purposely obscured fluff around the dollar and world banks that serves as a cover for unrestricted oligarchy that is totally out of control. The idea of democracy has just been a way of making the reins and tasps seem non existent, when in fact, it is deeply enforced for those who accidentally or purposely touch it’s edges and limits. With the current situation regarding covid and now the Ukraine, it is obvious to the trained mind, that it’s ass is sticking out and you can see the muscles and motions beneath the skin. It’s visible, for those who actually look. and it’s a very sick and sad feeling, to witness it, at best. Or, completely sane and in total control, if you strip any aspect of human empathy and reason from the conversation and analysis. If a person can’t explain the true fundamentals of what world finance and the US petro-dollar is to a 10 year old, a person is either lying or deeply misinformed or uninformed, or incapable of decoding the purposeful wall of fluff themselves. Just my experience...... 🙂
FYI, it is a VERY useful topic for an audio form, for the reason that the discussion and thus the fundamental and important revelations for all, are not taking place anywhere else. Akin to the idea of ’protest zones’ for the white house. Where one can protest, in a walled off box, in a small wooded area, some 10 miles out of town Unheard and unseen. Where the system that is the problem, won’t have to deal with the public becoming informed by the existence of the protest and the conversation around the protest. The forums (yes, in this case audio forums) are the only darned place left where the connected and concerned --- actually meet. The rest is just controlled propaganda from different parties and players, like parasites fighting over what part of the host they get to control via their attempts to be hypnotically repetitive and Orwellian in their misinformation. Where in said major media.. individuals do their darnedest to hang on to their sense of comfort via the self hypnotic relfective that is their chosen set of foolishness to listen to. Like bad marriages/relationshsips that they don't possess the emotional will to separate themselves from. |
