Dynaudio - Made in China vs Denmark


Hi,

    I  recently Purchased a new pair of Dynaudios. The floor model I auditioned were 'Made in Denmark' but the pair which was shipped out by the dealer was 'Made in China'. They are still boxed. Whats should I do:

1. Swap with the showroom floor model (they were probably a yr or 2 old)

2. Unbox and use my 'Made in china' pair ?

My main concern here is the quality of the product from China. Resale values.

Anyone with experience please chime in. 

 

ryanhere

Dealer is World Wide Stereo located in Ardmore PA.

Patrick was the rep who I worked with.

Fantastic guy, could not be more happier with them.

www.worldwidestereo.com

 

 

The world is flat kids. No I am not a true flat earth subscriber, only in the the business world. More worried about what is going on with farmers in that part of the world than speaker production moving to China.

Happy they resolved your issue. Was kind of cheesy of them or they really are that daft about the lines they sell.

Actually I  assumed all Dynaudio was MID, did not know that quite a bit has moved to China. Even dealers who have old stock like the floor models had MID versions. Its only last yr that most of it moved to China.   Had I known I would have insisted on MID at time of purchase. Not the dealers fault IMHO. They won't keep track where each speakers is made unless customer makes a specific request. 

 

I remember the feeling when I pulled my Revel M106 out of the box and read Made in Indonesia.....   gave me a pit in my stomach.    

I have had a few components made in China,  Velodyne SMS 1 which has been trouble free and it's 15 years old.  Bluesound Vault 2 I,  OPPO 103.   I totally get it that some products are built overseas....   when it comes to speakers and amps, MADE IN USA please.   

My tuner is made in Canada,  one DAC is Germany,  the other Greece.   So please don't think I am a xenophobe  but I do avoid made in China when possible .   Especially with tools and HiFi.   

I service medical instruments and can say this,  the best microscopes are Swiss and the worst are Chinese.   It is not my opinion , it is fact.   The Swiss build without regard to the final cost.  The Chinese trim costs starting with the B.O.M. and every other facet of production.   That is why the Swiss one is $15k and a Chinese one is $4k.   The Swiss one can be repaired , for decades.     No part support for the knock off......

 

It works for me, although truth be told at the time I purchased my Node I was not thinking at all about the country of manufacture.

But since the Ukraine war I am making an effort to not purchase anything that can in any way benefit the communist party of any country, where there are alternatives.  I figure the CP gets their share from the sale of every product manufactured in their country.

And in my humble opinion we're heading for a showdown.

 

Bluesound is a division of Lenbrook Industries Limited in Canada, but the BS brand products are manufactured in China.

When I was selling used dynaudio speakers, people from China were most interested in them

I've been kind of speaker shopping.  The first thing on my list is not MIC.  As someone mentioned, they are not a civilized country to buy from.  Between their complete disregard of intellectual property rights and outright theft of them.  I was involved with a phono stage project where we had the design nailed but needed a manufacturer.  Got a lot of great advice as we ran around CES talking to a bunch of companies we were sent to.  First words out of many mouths was that many companies over there will run your product for 8 ours a day, then ren a repackaged variant of it for another 8.  I try not to buy from them 

Wow! China is not a civilized country?

Please, check this video at 1:50 minutes. 

 

lectronjh50

@lectronjh50 what are you talking about? 
 

Wow! China is not a civilized country?

Please, check this video at 1:50 minutes. 

@twoboys I think you wanted to say many companies in the PRC are Unethical and lack Integrity, as opposed to being Uncivilized. Many here will take your words out of context and make you look like a Nationalistic Xenophobic person.

Not sure what the point of the video by Kevin Deal is supposed to make, other than that Pathos uses all Italian content in their product and others may buy content from offshore suppliers and assemble in the US, EU or Canada. So what?

Hmmm. Saw this thread and realize no-one has posted since the origin of manufacture became a main focal point here. I looked at one of my systems recently and without regard to place manufacture, I realized the following:

American made doesn't mean the best of hi-fi;

Chinese made (via a First World manufacturer) doesn't mean it is unreliable;

Simply put, the quality control of Bowers & Wilkins maintains its reputation wherever the item is assembled. Example: The $4,000+ 705 Signatures. I bought these to replace KEF LS50s and while they are 2.5 times the price, these are outstanding. The quality control, the luscious Italian wood veneer and finish and the sound---these are simply outrageous when coupled with proper amplification. For my office kit, I have the 705 Sigs being pushed by a McIntosh MA252 hybrid Valve/SS unit (USA). The Rega P8 is from the. UK, the Marantz ND8006 is from Japan and the Magnum Dynalab tuner is from Canada....Nonetheless, the sound is global: simply "Out of this world". Chinese manufacturing is based on the specs and quality control/budget of the company employing their massive population.

It's that simple.

"and then racism made it to the audio forums."

Instead of racism a reluctance to buy MIC gear might be related to a desire not to do business with a totalitarian communist dictatorship which oppresses its people and steals others intellectual property.

I have a slew of american made audio equipment from  speakers to amps, preamps, subs etc. Also have a number of japanese and european made equipment.  With very few exceptions I have been very pleased.  I try to buy US made for the most part. Modwright, CJ,  McCormack, Rythmik etc. 

Now, I found a used pair of Dynaudio Evoke 50’s at a great price. Listened to them and purchased on the spot.  Putting this out there for those considering the speakers.  I knew they were made in China but I would have had to spend several thousand more to get into their league. Lots of premium manufacturers have their mid line speakers or components made in China. It allows them to provide better quality components at a competitive price.  Good for audiophiles on a budget  imo.

I have had several sets of Dynaudio speakers.  Going back to 2017, I had a set of S40's made in Denmark, The contour 20i made in Denmark. Then recently I bought the confidence 20 and now I have the confidence 30 speakers. All made in Denmark. I have a 2 year old pair of Emit 20's out in the garage on a third system, those are made in China. I am under the impression that the Contour and Confidence series are made in Denmark the rest in China. For $1000.00 for the Emit 20's, I wasn't expecting much, at the same time they sound great out in the garage.

Just checked, (because of this thread ). My special 40's, and Exite 340's made in Denmark.

I’m very late to this thread. I bought an Evoke 25C from an authorized online retailer recently to replace the center channel on a secondary system that I hardly use. I had an Excite X28C that was an 8 ohm speaker and quite frankly the dialogue sounded muffled whenever I watched movies. The MIC Evoke 25C is much better sounding than the X28C that was made in Denmark. I can understand the dialogue now. I do have Contour 60Ci and Contour 25Ci on my main system that are all made in Denmark. I love those Contour so much that I’ll use them under they don’t work.

Couple years old now, but more and more of a reality as our favorite companies get swallowed by giant corps and start competing at the mass level. I bought a dining room set from a company named Pennsylvania House, a $11k set that I thought meant I was paying a premium for 'made in Pennsylvania', weli.... unless there's a Penn China I got boned!!! Every piece has a made in CHINA stamp on it. Doesn't make my food taste different when we serve in there, doesn't make the hardwood finish any less real, BUT when I pay more for a product marketing made in country of origin, I do it deliberately with the intention of supporting home employment and a living wage, NOT corporate greed. rant over. 

@ mickeyb said it & I agree 1000%!!!
 NOTICE that as soon as Dynaudio started making their lower tier speakers in China,like the transition from Excite series(made in Denmark) to Evoke series(made in China)the premium finishes like my Tiger Rosewood DISAPPEARED,yet the PRICE WENT UP!!!
Take them back & make sure Dynaudio knows full well WHY,then go buy MADE IN ITALY Sonus Fabers!

Holy crap,I just noticed this thread is a moldy oldy revived by someone in April 2024...Should have paid closer attention before adding to it...

China is most probably the most technologically advanced country in the world these days and their manufacturing prowess would be superior to manufacturing in Denmark.

So, if your speaker said "Made in China", you could count your blessings because it is probably better made now than when it was "Made in Denmark"....(due to China’s superior manufacturing prowess). Hence...don’t worry so much and enjoy the music.

 

NOTICE that as soon as Dynaudio started making their lower tier speakers in China,like the transition from Excite series(made in Denmark) to Evoke series(made in China)....

Hmmm My Evoke 10 say made in Denmark...

@jbuhl ,maybe Dynaudio realized their mistake & abandoned making in a COMMUNIST controlled country..

The real problem lies in the fact that Dynaudio gets a real world break on manufacturing costs , but does not pass on one penny of that to their customers. I knew when I bought my Denafrips dac where it was made, but fully realized the price would be much more if made elsewhere. I can live with that risk, and the build quality and sound is first rate. 
 

So it’s not just about country of origin. But two identical speakers made in different countries (one being China) should not cost the same. IMHO…..

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