The only question I have is, if they will be able to blame the failure of the vaccines on the ones that didn't take it? They are trying to sell that story, it's gonna be a hard push.I am afraid you are right... «Stupidity or the love of blinders is an acquired habit not an innate quality or taste» -Anonymus Smith «Freedom dont sell well, blinders did»-Groucho Marx 🤓 |
The rest of you guys just don't understand risk assessment very well. What are the risks of the vaccine? Very minor thus far. What are the risks of Covid? 4,842,788 deaths worldwide. Additionally not taking the vaccine can have additional social risks as some of you have found out. You're all, theoretically at least adults, sit down and do some blunt thinking on risk assessment or consult someone. |
Joining late. RNA is not dna and can’t become dna. As all fragment of rna in muscle for a few hours can’t change your genome. Only provoke an immune response. If you choose not to be immunized, so be it, but please don’t misinform. I’ll try to make an analogy. You have a 1000 wpc solid state amp. You add one rectifier tube that isn’t needed. Is it a tube amp?Are you reciting a mantra or a propaganda piece? It takes 5 second to look after a scientist pick by chance who knows well that the spike protein dont safely sleep in the arm and could be dangerous with unknown long term effect... they are other studies also with less confidence than you and Dr. Fauci... I dont know why? 😁 https://www.researchgate.net/publication/348412961_SARS-CoV-2_Spike_Protein_Elicits_Cell_Signaling_in_Human_Host_Cells_Implications_for_Possible_Consequences_of_COVID-19_Vaccines https://publish.twitter.com/?query=https%3A%2F%2Ftwitter.com%2FBretWeinstein%2Fstatus%2F140847976582... https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=&cad=rja&u... Are they all deluded conspirationist clowns? OH! yes dont read that, all the fact checkers on google say that they are conspirationist...Anyway even one of the top living virologist in the world, the Nobel Luc Montagnier is a conspirationist for the corporate google and for Pharmas... He wrote a preface to the book "Plagues of corruption", by arch ennemy of Dr. Fauci Judy Mikovits... Trust google at your own risk and repeat the mantra... But science is science, a new vaxx technology UNVERIFIED for long term effect is what it is, a new vaxx technology UNVERIFIED for long term effect.... Mantra or not..... Between Luc Montagnier the real discoverer of the HIV virus and the proven thief Gallo and his friend in corruption Tony Fauci which are on opposite sides again after the HIV wars in this Covid wars, my choice is clear.... |
@jond You talk about risk... Since the pandemic began, less than 600 children under the age of 18 have died from covid. In the same time span, 900 children under the age of 18 have died from pneumonia. Never before have children who are asymptomatic in the same classroom as sick children been sent home from pneumonia. Just an example... |
Strange, those who exercise their right to not take vaccine then complain about exercising it. Exercising individual rights means having to accept both the benefits and costs. The cost is that other individuals also have the freedom to exercise their rights, which means any single individual may not always get to freely exercise their rights. Countless judicial decisions uphold one party's rights, the losing party hasn't proved a preponderance of harms done to itself. Losing parties don't often care for judicial decisions. Here I'm speaking of rights which have costs. The costs one has to pay for exercising their right to not take vaccine is merely loss of some privileges. Privilege rights don't count for much in judicial system. One has to be able to understand the distinction between privilege and rights in order to understand justice. I highly doubt an individual who refuses to take vaccine and sues because of loss of privilege is going to prevail in any court in this country. You'd have to prove the vaccine is more harmful than beneficial by a preponderance of evidence. At this point, the vaccines are not experimental, and have proven to be of great benefit. It is likely one of most used pharmaceuticals existent, more than 6.2 billion according to one source. If this not the case, bring your case to the courts and prove it, proof that it saves lives makes for a pretty strong case. I understand there have been harms incurred by a small minority of vaccine recipients, I doubt any court in the entire world would judge those harms outweigh the benefits. So we have a preponderance of scientific evidence supporting vaccines which courts will accept as evidence. Lack of harms done to individuals refusing to take the vaccine, another win for vaccine advocates. Equal protection clause of Constitution that protects the rights of private parties to institute vaccine and mask mandates. Doesn't look like the courts or science are your friends. And don't forget two centuries of settled law that allows gov. entities to mandate vaccines. Which leaves you folks with individual choice to not take vaccine. No one is denying you this choice, you only have to pay the cost of losing some level of privilege. |
Australia Releases Tracker App That Requires Response Within 15 Minutes Before Authorities Arrive https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kp8AcA4wodg This is the Australia of Steve Irwin......Crocodile Dundeee' mate. |
Which leaves you folks with individual choice to not take vaccine. No one is denying you this choice, you only have to pay the cost of losing some level of privilege.Your post make no sense... The vaccination decision is an act of freedom... Which means NO employers or state or President can FORCE people to take this choice at the cost of their job if not... The medical and legal reason are simple: the massive vaccination DECIDED by authorities is not a scientific decision but a political one... You dont seem to understand elementary epidemiology at all... An airborne mutating virus like sars-2 is NOT a polio virus for example...We need vaxx for at risk people and treatment for the majority of healthy people, like in another airborne mutating virus the "flu"... This is reason...And elementary epidemiology fact ... Forbidding all low cost treatments and promoting MASS vaccination is a crime.... |
This is not ignorance..... They believe this in their heart of hearts. They really really believe it. Yes, the TV is shaping their Worldview, I would not argue that... but they have bought this way of thinking hook line and sinker. Taking a living away from a man is akin to killing him, and they make these proclamations so callously. One of my friends, has a 1.5 year old daughter, has a wife 7 months pregnant, he recently got fired from his job at his accounting firm. Do what we tell you, or you and your family starve to death. ( He will land on his feet/ how many others won’t ?) They really believe this...... what else will they not be willing to do, if the TV tells them it is okay? |
If all things were equal with one exception—the disease was ebola. Would you take the vaccine then?Your question is meaningless.... Try to guess why? Even if our friend is an antivaxx or against this particular vaxx only, MASS MANDATED VACCINATION for an airborne mutating virus make no sense on all front...Selective but free choice vaccination for people ar risk make sense, treatment for the others like with the flu....Threatening people and excluding them from their work is a crime... |
No. It is a valid hypothesis. My guess is that your instinct to survive would override political motivation to stir up trouble where none exists.Wow.... Instinct to survive? No need to speak about what is at play here anymore... Sorry your hypothesis make no sense.... And your reasoning about the decision to be vaxx or not to be vaxx, being only a politically motivated wise or unwise decision compared to the survival instinct is totally preposterous... The decision to be vaxx or not is a complex risk calculus decision motivated and illuminated by ALL nemerous factors at play... It is mostly and mainly a political decision only for dunces.... Then opposing political decision to instinct here is simplistic ..... |
It’s so funny...The side coming down with the political edicts, forcing compliance, is then complaining about the refusal of said edicts as being political. As far as Ebola goes, again...You can do whatever you want, and I will do whatever I decide is best for myself in that hypothetical situation, after I look at all the information as I have done in this case. I would be against forced vaccines even if the Death rate was 50000%. |
I would be against forced vaccines even if the Death rate was 50000%.Great words thanks It remind me of free Socrates... I work all my life in a job i was loving so much that loosing it would have been to lost my life... I am truly sorry for you and this useless sufferring imposed by stupidity and greed.... |
@mahgister. All things being equal includes "ALL nemerous factors at play..." By reducing the argument to the absurd, the only difference being the severity of the disease, then all that is left is the notion that you believe you are being coerced into taking a preventative measure to save lives. It wouldn't be an issue if the disease was horribly fatal for 90% of victims. You'd be begging for the vaccine. |
@mahgister. All things being equal includes "ALL nemerous factors at play..."i dont want to discuss anymore... But think about that in your head: What if the new vaxx technology not only is not able to erase the disease but is the cause of long term adverse problems? i do not even count actual adverse events for now.....They are numerous ... Put that in your head and stir it in your head.... Comparing covid-19 to polio or the black death has no meaning here for the present discussion.... |
Once again mahgister, thank you. Get up to speed people, please. https://rumble.com/vnbv86-winning-the-war-against-therapeutic-nihilism-and-trusted-treatments-vs-unt... |
Once again mahgister, thank you.Dont thank me please , they will think that i have voted for Trump... 😁😊 I listen to many other videos of Dr. McCullough and he is a man of his words.... He moved the heart....Glad you enjoy it...Illuminating videos... in his field speciality he is top in the world.... |
@ghasley There are Labor Shortages everywhere.. The same friend I was talking about, knows people that work at the Long Beach Harbor. It is the biggest cargo port on this side of the continent, they enforced a vaccine mandate 2 months ago, and a huge percentage of the workers quit.... They have about 80 or so ships waiting to be offloaded, can’t find workers to do it. (usual backlog is 0-1) They Don’t have truckers to transport the containers, yeah vaccine mandates again.... same story in hospitals all across the country. The supply chain is breaking.. we are in for a very very rough winter. He will be fine, he has a graduate degree in some specialized accounting, whatever it is that he does, but the last few months were unbelievably stressful for him, but he stood strong, and he’ll be better off for it in the long run. Thank you for your concern :) @mahgister thank you for your kind words as well. Gives me hope to see people such as yourself, and others, standing up for what they believe in. we change this world one person at a time :) |
For now if someone want to change the color of the day and listen to a true unbelievable documentary listen to this almost 4 hours and say to my face that this film does not beat most hollywood movie... It is about Bruno Groening, one of the most verified case of a faith healing in history....the story is UNBELIEVABLE and anyway true with more testimonies of all kind about all diseases... Anything to see but Dr. Fauci.... Yes.... I hear the sceptic here, this is pure religious non sense OK, then try to debunk this Bruno Groning if you can.... I could not.... Help me....And listen to this 2 videos if you dare.... The PHENOMENON BRUNO GROENING – Documentary Film part one: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZNlXuclHhVc&t=1554s Part 2: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RpafJBwQZRs By the way if they are dunces here by bad chance , i must say for them that i dont suggest in this post to go to faith healer instead of taking a vaxx...Is it clear? I just proposed a marvellous true story... I refuse the vaxx because i have reason to not take it after my covid natural immunization and anyway i dont trust this new tech which has never been tested....Too much adverse events... I am sad that many people loose their job because they had no trust in this new technology or simply they are not ignorant and read a lot about it and decide that this "vaxx" cannot be for them.... I am sad that so many people are unable to understand what is at stake, what is at play, and what is the goal.... «History is not blind it is a spiraling wheel»-Anonymus Smith « What do you call a kid’s wheel ride that goes somewhere?»-Groucho Marx 🤓 «I called it a miracle brothers : evolution becoming history»-Groucho Marx 🤓 «Is it not the "omega" point ? » - Harpo Marx « You are all dunces, it is only a simple spiral»- Gummo Marx «Even in mathematics we dont know what a spiral is...Or better said the object "spiral" is like a fractal impossible to pin on one point, it escape limiting definitions»- A mathematician whom i dont recall the name |
i Forgot the third part of The PHENOMENON BRUNO GROENING – Documentary Film Part3 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KuTOYYNhhnw |
Sure. Believe whatever you want... I bet Pfizer has never been caught lying.....Oh wait... :) The Doctors in question have verified credentials, active practices and are actually seeing patients on the ground. Unlike, America’s Favorite Big Pharma Pimp, Only in name Dr Fauci. https://www.brighteon.com/b03d1a4e-1cf7-4db5-ab18-2dd5fe6426fa This is an old interview and his findings have been confirmed by many Doctors and Researchers all over the world. If you have gotten the vaccines, get a complete blood panel done. Just to be safe |
BIG PHARMA’S GLOBAL WAR - ROBERT F KENNEDY JR He breaks down the last 60 years of US history very well. No wonder they banned him from YouTube. wow https://www.bitchute.com/video/eRKFrHETmH9t/ |
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Yes isochronism, the worse is yet to come. Maybe some should pick that book up more often. Many are sheep and this thread is great for the herding. But some will listen and some will not. It's what keeps me coming back. TO LISTEN I'll give credit where credit is do. Y'all know who you are RELAX.....deep breaths |
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If all things were equal with one exception—the disease was ebola. Would you take the vaccine then?@mahgister - if you knew that safe and effective treatments for Ebola exists, and existed before a new Ebola vaccine was introduced. Would you be more inclined to take the known safe medications (that have been used many millions of times over decades and succeeded with a high level of safety in the world of performance, proven even safe for pregnancy) over a relatively new technology that has reports of being unsafe from many personal, and professional sources? |
