Fifteen pages and still going. Do you anti vaxxers understand you're only preaching to the choir, and the choir gets smaller by the day? The machine buys and sells you guys just like everyone else, traitors to your cause end up getting vaccine through enticements and coercion. Others come over to the 'dark side' as reality finally sinks in, loved ones dying from Covid get their attention.
Your fight isn't even really about rights, you're not losing your rights, simply your privilege. No one is being sent to jail, prison or denied their right to speak.
I presume you guys all consume just as we, the enemy do, which means your ingesting all manner of chemicals you likely haven't done a bit of research on. Your bodies were contaminated many many years ago.
As for government and corporate intentions to control the masses, nothing new here. Many of the vaccinated are well aware of the ever present need/drive in humans, to accumulate power. Humans have innate need to have others think like them, power allows this. We are not stooges of some unknown machine, inculcated to accept new norms that bring us further under control of that machine.
You stick your stake of freedom in the ground at this particular juncture, hoping to incite revolution in the masses. Based on the ease of existing power structures to shatter your resistance, your movement seems a mile wide, an inch deep. You do incite a counter revolution that increasingly celebrates your deaths. Herman Cain awards and much worse, desire for culling of heard, mass depopulation.
I admit I do feel a sense of revolution in the air, democracy in the balance. But then, democracy has been virtually non existent for the entire history of humankind. Not a natural state of humans, they'd rather win than compromise. The sad thing is so many humans always willing to bet their side will win. Zero sum games innate part of human condition.
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There is no tyranny when only privilege lost. You have choice to not wear mask and not get vaccinated.
And on the other side, gun toting, threatening warlords taking over Michigan capital building, and how about Jan6
Yep, the revolution is here, two different realities, nay universes. Divide and conquer is the problem. I'm willing to settle on divide only part of equation.
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And so now I'm evil and the courts enforce evil, we're going down the religious highway, how cool!
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Lots of dominoes with predictions of future, each and every domino must be in perfect alignment for specific predictions to come to fruition. Past wrongheaded predictions prove this difficult at best.
Domino toppling always goes in circles or dead ends. Both are the same, always ending in death. I'd like to see something better than dead ends.
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If one grocery store, theater, whatever retail establishment has masking policy, go to another where they don't. And so on and so on, blah, blah, blah. Or you can purchase online! The authorities are not stopping anyone from providing themselves with life sustaining necessities. You're inability to conduct commerce with any particular establishment on your terms is simply not unlawful. Or would you then have the rights of these parties infringed so can practice your self judged preeminent rights.
Many private establishments have also welcomed these gvt. issued mandates where issued. It brought relief from having to enforce and defend their own mandates. Do you not believe people and other private entities who disagree with you have the right of equal protection? People who refuse to wear masks and get vaccinated are not a class of people, discrimination will be difficult to prove on class basis.
Whose rights are protected and whose are infringed will be a battle to the end of time. Mask and vaccine mandates, until such time the courts decide they actually infringe upon your rights are not presently illegal. You will first have to prove standing, which means proving an actual harm was inflicted on you. You will have to prove masks and present covid vaccines are harmful, as well as lacking benefit. Until such a case is presented to the supreme court and opinion issued that states it is infringement of rights, it is simply not an infringement of rights, rather its only an infringement of privilege. And this argument would likely have to start anew with each new vaccine produced if supreme court issued a narrow opinion.
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For me, this whole discussion is only existentialist in that I want Covid to be destroyed. It sounds like some want to destroy a whole lot of things that have little or nothing to do with this virus.
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Strange, those who exercise their right to not take vaccine then complain about exercising it. Exercising individual rights means having to accept both the benefits and costs. The cost is that other individuals also have the freedom to exercise their rights, which means any single individual may not always get to freely exercise their rights. Countless judicial decisions uphold one party's rights, the losing party hasn't proved a preponderance of harms done to itself.
Losing parties don't often care for judicial decisions.
Here I'm speaking of rights which have costs. The costs one has to pay for exercising their right to not take vaccine is merely loss of some privileges. Privilege rights don't count for much in judicial system. One has to be able to understand the distinction between privilege and rights in order to understand justice. I highly doubt an individual who refuses to take vaccine and sues because of loss of privilege is going to prevail in any court in this country. You'd have to prove the vaccine is more harmful than beneficial by a preponderance of evidence. At this point, the vaccines are not experimental, and have proven to be of great benefit. It is likely one of most used pharmaceuticals existent, more than 6.2 billion according to one source. If this not the case, bring your case to the courts and prove it, proof that it saves lives makes for a pretty strong case. I understand there have been harms incurred by a small minority of vaccine recipients, I doubt any court in the entire world would judge those harms outweigh the benefits.
So we have a preponderance of scientific evidence supporting vaccines which courts will accept as evidence. Lack of harms done to individuals refusing to take the vaccine, another win for vaccine advocates. Equal protection clause of Constitution that protects the rights of private parties to institute vaccine and mask mandates. Doesn't look like the courts or science are your friends. And don't forget two centuries of settled law that allows gov. entities to mandate vaccines.
Which leaves you folks with individual choice to not take vaccine. No one is denying you this choice, you only have to pay the cost of losing some level of privilege.
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I see the same four or five posters pontificating ad nauseam, on endless repeat. You offer up information culled from sources self determined as delivering truth. You never question your sources, any and all opposing sources subjected to character assassination.
And then you continue to whine about the consequence of the choices you've made. On top of that, you want others to feel compassion and empathy for you.
Again, you're only preaching to the choir. I don't understand your intentions with this endless thread. Are you trying to convince the opposition to change sides, or do you still have the need to convince yourselves of the truth of your convictions? Or perhaps you take sustenance from belittling and trashing your opponents?
Those seeking understanding and compassion should bear the consequence of their freely made choices with courage, quit whining about how they're treated so unfairly. People don't like whiners, plenty of much more deserving people and causes in this world use up empathy capacity.
All this craziness and divisiveness driven by this wonderful innovation we call information technology. Apt name, takes a microscope to locate the knowledge content.
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I predict this thread soon to be authoritative source for solution to defeat covid. Collating so many preeminate authorities within a single thread will certainly enlighten the 'quack' scientific community. Guys, thank you for your service to humanity.
And so, I too am headed to the bar, drink my sorrows away after being made aware of the devil's poison living within my body from vaccine.
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The VH Audio ODAM are reportedly up amongst best, not extremely expensive, on top of that relatively small size. I will be trying soon in my phono pre, none of the copper foils fit here.
I'm presently using Audyn True Copper max, Jupiter VT, Miflex copper foils, Duelund VSF, Duelund silver bypass in various equipment. All have their place, each picked for particular flavor.
Speaker crossovers really benefit from the boutique caps, unfortunately, the Duelund Cast so large, hard to fit even with the totally modded outboard crossover of my Klipschorns. Presently using combo of Jupiter VT/Duelund Silver bypass and Audyn True Copper max here. If I were to change out these, would go to ODAMs.
Audiogon member Grannyring knows his caps, reason I'm going with Odam for next mod.
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