This Audiogon thread might be useful: https://forum.audiogon.com/discussions/linear-tube-audio-little-known-great-linear-power-supply
Best affordable Linear Power Stage
Looking into a purchase per the Title. The Allo Shanti looks to be a good piece, with favorable reviews and pricing. However I can’t find any place selling a new one and allo.com won’t load up. Is the company still around and has anyone tried one of these, I’m looking to use it with my LAIV uDDC. Appreciate any insights anyone can provide.
Fidelizer Audio just released their Aura for $219. Technically, it has a switching power supply to keep the price affordable. The owner, Keetakawee, has a track record of designing excellent products. For a true LPS, look at his Nikola series He provides excellent product support. He'll be happy to answer any questions. |
Lots of nice ones out there, all depends on price willing to pay. I always go with lps that can provide more amperage than device requires, much better for reliability, keeps heat down. @ghdprentice There are many reasons why outboard linear power supplies superior to either inboard supplies or devices that use external switching power supplies. If we're talking about streaming equipment, many devices designed to use outboard power supplies, certain manufactures understand the intended use of the device and/or their own limitations in designing and manufacturing high quality linear power supplies. Many of these manufacturers are small operations, they specialize in a single thing, let others take over for the lps, put the two together and you have a quality device. |
@steakster thanks for the Aura recommendation, looks very interesting will check into it. |
You're going to have a very hard time beating any of the Sengterbelle R-Core power supplies on Aliexpress at anything remotely close to the price and probably at 3-4X the money. I read somewhere online that there is a UK audio retailer simply marking them up and selling them for around 400 GBP. R-Core like the Allo Shanti so extremely quiet with digital gear and benefits from a good power cord and DC cable (which are also ridiculously cheap on Aliexpress). I own 3 of them, 2 5V and a 12V for my modem/router. That one may have been the least bang for the buck but the two 5 volts I have here on a Topping E30 MK II DAC and a Wiim Pro + as a streamer only have been a huge bang for the buck and both directly compared to a less expensive Talema torroid based 25W power supply. I was really surprised at how much it elevated the performance of the Wiim as streamer only.
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The LHY Audio LPS25VA has (2) 15V Simultaneously Driven Voltage Output Jacks that would be perfect for the Laiv Harmony µDAC and the Laiv Harmony µDDC.The price is $249.00 SGD (Singapore) which is about $185.00 US. A really great deal with fantastic functionality.
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Just for future reference, you could not use the 15V version as linked to by @tyray with both the Laiv DAC and uDDC. Yes with the DAC but no with the uDDC as it is a 5V device and needs the 5V LHY specific to the uDDC as per the Vinshine website. The 5V LHY can also be ordered for $100 U.S. from Aliexpress which would make it even better value ;)
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@sns Oops, perhaps my comment was too brief. The focus of my comment was on the words "audiophile equipment". The best way to get the very best sound (and associated power supply) is to purchase audiophile equipment... so, like Boulder, Audio Research, Aurrender.. to get the best power supplies, instead of adding on. So, for instance my Aurrender W20SE uses battery power to provide the quietest background Audio Research has a tubed power circuit. It was my intent to simply point out that audiophile gear has incredible focus on power supplies. Two box solution preamps have one box dedicated to power. |
Good thread..as I am in the same boat. I have been wanting to try a ddc and the Laiv uddc seems logical. In the past had good luck with the Sbooster...but dont want to spend 250-400 on a PS for an $800 ddc....since the ddc is kind of an experiment to start with. So I saw a report on a guy reviewing three different price point LPS and he said decent things about an $30 Alieexpress unit. So I ordered a one. Still waiting to get both the lps and the ddc...so no reco at this time. If the Laiv is fruitful..I will move up the chain on the LPS...and maybe even the ddc at some point. . Heres the link. https://www.aliexpress.us/item/3256801655528382.html?spm=a2g0o.order_list.order_list_main.5.63b218020zPwR0&tblci=GiDkHYAKHFliBBPKNM9ILkVK6EMpprrmDH_1qb1BJ667kiDA9m4o9tP22ZGM9L8ZMKjbXg&gatewayAdapt=glo2usa |
@scp I found the better resolving your system the better the uDDC will deliver. Great addition to my system. I just ordered the LHY LPS, from Vinshine Audio for $185.00, seemed to be a great value and has been advertised to be linked with the LAIV uDDC product. Should have in a week and will post my findings shortly thereafter. |
The Sengterbelle is still the one to get IMO. The Sengterbelle can also be purchased in dual output for a few bucks more should one want to go that route. But you're going to want the 2nd device to not be very power hungry typically in that situation. I'd rather just have two singles and be overkill on the power supply at the price of these. |
It seems Aliexpress has two versions of the LHY Audio LpS25VA. The LHY 25W Dual DC DC5V DC9V DC12V DC15V DC18V USB Decoding Routing Interface for Audio DC Stabilized Linear HIFI Fever Power Supply for $87US may be an inferior version with free shipping. The New 25W LHY Audio LPS DC ultra-low noise DC linear regulated power supply DC5V/9V/12V/15V/18V at $105US is the (maybe?) standard version, still a good value with $48US shipping? I don’t know? I deleted my previous post referencing the LHY 25W Dual DC DC5V DC9V DC12V DC15V DC18V USB Decoding Routing Interface for Audio DC Stabilized Linear HIFI Fever Power Supply as not to confuse Agon members on maybe getting a inferior unit. I have read before that Aliexpress sometimes (maybe?) sells name brand versions with inferior parts and this is the first time I’ve came across those issues face to face. |
Same power supply tyray. The only difference is the 2nd output connection on one is USB A versus the standard barrel connector. You can purchase power supplies with both outputs barrel connectors or both USB as well if you search. Different Ali sellers will have different prices (and often slightly different descriptions). You simply need to shop around on the site for the same product. |
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@hdm, ok I see that now. The $87US version does give you the option of the double barrel version and the USB version with free shipping. Thanks for clearing that up. |
@ghdprentice I'd agree for major streaming components like streamers and dacs shouldn't be any need for outboard power supplies. When I'm speaking of the need for outboard lps this pertains to the myriad network devices available for streaming.
As to discussion of DDC, I'm content my choice of going with Denafrips Gaia along with top quality I2S cable was best for both near and long term enjoyment. With the Gaia no need for outboard power supply, has top notch internal lps, great usb input optimization, best quality OXCO clock with top quality power supply for clock. Certainly the Gaia relatively high cost but keeping in mind both short and long term I believe it provides best value for a highly resolving streaming and system setup. |
Good point here, even the Iris and the Hermes have no need for a outboard power supply and are very price competitive. I just wonder do we want to mix brands? Or do we want to stay with the same brand to get the ’house’ sound? Keep in mind I have NO idea what I’m talking about here, I’m just spitballing... |
@tyray I've never heard a 'house' sound from network and clocking devices or network cables. these only affect transparency/resolution, have no affect on either tonality or timbre. I2S and usb cables affect tonal balance to a small degree, also transparency/resolution. Voicing comes from dac and rest of audio system. |
@sns Thanks for your answer. |
@toneranger58, https://forum.audiogon.com/posts/2789900 Do you know what the difference is between the LAIV uDDC version of the 5V and the standard? Can’t find anything on it. |
@sizzitrail84 i don’t know the difference just went with the one specific to the uDDC. |