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BE VERY CAREFUL OF YOUR DEALINGS ON AUDIO-ASYLUM
I have entered in to some dealings on Audio Asylum trader that are less than honorable......I made a deal with a established dealer to trade some rather expensive Atma-Sphere amplifiers for some basket case Altec amps.......After sending the well packed and insured amps , they where received in good order to the Audio Asylum dealer.......Keeping in mind that this dealer made no effort to ship my part of the deal during the week his amps were shipped....After no less than ten phone calls he tells me he doesn't know how to pack them, so I told him to take them to a "Pack and Ship" store and ship them....I would share the cost of shipping..........He has now fell off the face of the earth....no calls, no e-mails, no nothing......he will not answer the phone or in anyway communicate at all........Later this week I will put his Audio-Asylum business name on here.....What are your thoughts on this ??????? .
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This is rare, but I agree with Elizabeth. In fact, I’d go further, and fly (or drive) to visit this person. You’re obviously a trusting soul but this is the thanks you get. Also, I would never, never, never buy outside of the US. When I see an ad for something outside the US, I just move on. Buy at your own risk! No, that’s not racist. It just reduces your chance of having to post your bad experience here. One more thing. This is the second poster in two days who has complained about a scamming seller but declined to name them. Really, why? Give us the name, we need to know. |
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Keep in mind that all the time you give him to respond gives him all the time to vamoosh. Or, he can move the money and if you were to personally confront him, he'll just pull his pockets inside out and tell you to kiss the rabbit on the nose. The fact that he's not responding to your emails and that AA is moving at a glacial pace is not looking good for you. Contact the local P.D. or whatever works for you and start a claim. All the best, Nonoise |
I am guessing it is this person. http://www.audioasylumtrader.com/ca/listing/Amplifier-Tube/Altec/1570B/POWER-amps-pair/191590 |
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I hate seeing this happening. If the listing dill has posted is the one you are referring to, I see the seller has a good rating, so there was no reason for you to be suspicious. Hopefully, AA will help you resolve this issue. If not, then I think you should post this on their webforum. I do congratulate you on being so open minded, considering you are out of a pair of Atma's. If I were you, I would call Ralph and give him the serial numbers, if anyone tries to have them upgraded, you might be able to get them back. B |
Is this the outfit autospec? If so, checkout their eBay feedback, looks like they have a negative that sounds like your situation. http://www.electronaddict.com/ |
Be careful. I had a guy that I had to get a 19000 refund for a speaker that was paid for never finished and shipped. I had to threaten the guy to get my client his money. I’m an attorney in Texas. It took us 2 years. Seriously, you have to be careful. I would give him 24 hours then put him on blast. You have to! |
This was awhile ago and he does have good feedback since. https://feedback.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewFeedback2&ftab=AllFeedback&userid=electronadd... |
Autospec why is the title of your thread Be Careful of Dealings on Audio Asylum. There is nothing wrong with that site, I've had a few dealings with Audio Asylum Trader that went very well. Don't disparage Audio Asylum because of a bad actor there. This could happen on Audio Circle, Audiogon, US Audiomart just as easily. |
Jeff: I have e-mailed Audio Asylum five times about this, and haven't got any help, so they don't seem to care that I'm going to lost 2000 - 3000 dollars on this deal.......I have been a member Audio Asylum for many years, you would think they could at least answer a e-mail.....You would think that they could police there own web-site.....I'm getting tired of crooks and spam operators......Think about it ?? |
I accord with Elizabeth’s caution against trades in long distance transactions. Money first, PayPal both ways. Since the Asylum realizes no fees from its commerce site, I understand its reluctance to police transactions. They do occasionally impose temporary or permanent bans on posters who violate their rules, but not for alleged fraud. |
I have given this person all the time in the world to get right with this transaction........He goes by "Lee of Omaha" on the Audio Asylum and owns a business in Papillion, NE.know as the Electron Addict......I will be filing some legal papers quickly........He also sells on e-bay, who I will also contact about this matter......... |
I really hope this works out for you, I think you've waited more than long enough. I'm curious, have you done many private deals up until now? I think when one is 1st starting out, one wants to believe in the inherent goodness of man, allowing time, being ultra polite, almost experiencing disbelief when things head south. The more experienced trader has less patience for BS, and moves quickly (immediately!) when the deal even sniffs funny! I'm probably wrong but it almost seems like you didn't want to believe the guy was capable of ripping you off. I'd advise going into ANY online transaction with yr eyes wide open and yr radar turned on. Gotta listen to yr gut!;) |
Well , I didn't wait long enough....Because he has just sent me the tracking numbers......There is a lesson here and a question to be answered....I waited 5 days without any connection with this person....Was that long enough, maybe ?? maybe not.......I would like to see some play on that.......Will |
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geoffkait: I'm sure you didn't spend much time summing this up.....I know you weren't the guy losing 2500.00 dollars.......And you weren't the guy sending over 10 unanswered e-mail or maybe the guy that made 4 unanswered phone calls over a course of 5 days.................So what do you know about any of it ??? |
If you know his address call his local police dept, and tell them he scammed you, or the FBI they now have a online internet fraud dept. and also mail fraud. Send him a certified letter as well as a email if he does not comply within 3-4 days call the police in his local area, if no satisfaction his state FBI internet fraud over $2k is a federal offense. make the demand and tell him a deadline date send him also a link to theFBI online fraud dept. best of luck. |
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Calvinj: Thanks for your positive statement on this......I think we are getting pretty far from the original problem..........Also Elizabeth for you positive view on this.......The problem has pretty much taken care of it self, Lee has sent me the tracking numbers for the three pieces..........Thanks for all the positive help geoffkait, you want to get yourself that pencil sharpener.....Will |
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