A not sarcastic question for the power conditioner/upgraded power cord folks

@immatthewj moving the outlets and going direct to wall would be my preference as well. I just installed a second Shunyata SR-Z1 outlet. Got the first one a week ago. Really nice and not very expensive. Consider these when you  work on moving the circuits. Great connection and grip. Solid buy. 

@kennymacc +1, and this for every audio component.

Everything is important!!!  Get the best power cable that you can afford to go from your wall socket to your power conditioner.  Just that simple.  Happy listening.

@audphile1 , thanks for the link to the Pangea . . . that would be the quickest easiest. I think in that thread I referred to I asked about if there was such a thing as an "audiophile power strip" out there, and it appears that this one would fill that bill. At the time, it was @millercarbon who suggested I break my "Promethean power Flo" back out and use it for a strip to get everything on one circuit. As far as that little unit, it is built like a brick (that was back when a lot of the stuff was built so you could alternatively use it as a weapon) and they did not make it so access to its guts would be easy. I remember back when my buddy and I both bought one (we were hoping that David Lewis Audio would give us a $ break if we both bought at the same time) they were around $600. Which back in the ’90s seemed like a lot to pay for something to plug something else into, but I was like, "Well, if it will transform my system, it’s only money, and Lord knows I have too much of that . . .".

So anyway, I think that the most logical solution is to move the outlets up about a foot and a half or so, and while I am at it, that will give me a chance to reroute the Romex a bit better where it goes down the wall. That was another reason I thought that  turning the breakers to two of the circuits off and only using one circuit for all components was--I didn’t totally understand the logic behind dedicated circuits at the time and I have the Romex running too close together.

Oh, and as far as the XLO power cord, the mark down on it was incredible, so that’s why I pulled the trigger on that one.

The common thought is that:

High quality power cords act as "filters"

Consistency of cords, not mixing and matching,  yields the best results

I have found the combination above to be correct and that it both lowers the noise floor and allows for superior imaging.  

My experience was that the cord from the conditioner to the wall was very important...

I played the best place for the best power cord game for a long time.  Not that long ago I upgraded all my power cords to the same one, a Cardas Clear Beyond.  Up until then I had a combination of Clear M, Clear and Clear Beyond cords.  Immediately everything snapped into place, but best of all my wondering and ongoing experimentation was finally over.

We got snowed in last night as well around 4” of snow topped off by freezing rain. Very slippery. I skated around a bit while walking my dog. 

Cool about audience cords. I really like them especially for the amp. Don’t recall if I ever tried XLO…don’t think I did…

If you’re handy you can probably upgrade the captive cord in that power strip but I’m not sure it’s worth the effort. You will need to make a cutout and install IEC connector. Not that big of a deal but still work and money dumped into a 30 year old power strip. Alternative would be this Pangea but I personally never tried it. For $250 or $299 with return policy may be worth a shot. You’ll need a 20A cord or an adapter from Amazon to try with your XLO or Forte. 

Earlier in this thread you mentioned moving the dedicated circuits closer to components. I would say that’s probably your best bet and would allow you to run everything direct. 
 

. . . and speaking of strange, I guess after the thunder we got some freezing rain--I just went to throw a bag of garbage out and stepped onto a skating rink.  We don't really get that all too often here.  

@audphile1 , I guess that at this very moment I have it hooked up with pre and CDP to power conditioner, and amp so it will plug straight to the wall.

I get almost daily emails from PCX and ACX and they sent me one with the XLO Ultra Plus marked way way down from list, so I was like, "Why not," and I ordered it. Then a day later I get an email from them advertising the audience forte f3 power chord for BOGO. I remember what you said about that PC, so for half list I order them and now I have upgraded PCs t for my CDP, pre, and my amp.

But, this is where it is problematic for the time being:

with a 2 meter run my amp is all that I can get straight into the wall. So right now, I am forced to use my glorified strip to plug the pre and cdp into. Problem 2 is that I cannot upgrade the pc to the glorified strip, because although it appears to be a very nice braided pc, it is hardwired in.

As for the conditioner/glorified strip: it is a "Promethethian Audio Products Power Flo" that a dealer in Philthadelphia convinced me back in nineteen ninety and something would transform my system. I cannot honestly say I that thought that heard difference one way or the other and over the years I have mostly not used it, and since I was using stock 3m PCs, length was never an issue. Until a couple of years ago--I started following one of those dedicated circuit threads that were thriving back then, and someone had posted that their opinion was ONLY ONE CIRCUIT for every thing. The rationale was something about "ground loops at the panel" with gear hooked up to more than one circuit. Then MillerCarbon made a rare appearance and concurred. So at that point I thought I’d at least try condensing my three dedicated circuits to one.

So I needed the glorified strip to do that with. And at the time I thought I did hear a slight bit of improvement with all 3 pieces of gear on one circuit. But who knows. I will admit that I am probably subject to confirmation bias, and since I am aware of that, and the mind being a funny thing, who really knows.

Okay--so that was all with the stock 3m cords. Then, going back quite a few months, we all got into that discussion about the Preffair PCs from Amazon. The 2m PCs I bought were not an issue because at the time I was still using the glorified conditioner strip. As I was redoing PCs this afternoon, that’s when I discovered the length issue w/ the 2m PCs.

No biggy, I suppose I’ll move the outlets to where I can make all three reach direct, no conditioner aka strip.

Oh, and getting to how I presently hooked them up: I hooked the XLO to the CDP and the two audiences up to the pre and the amp. For now. How does it sound? I do not know as we were having some stuhranggggeee weather here today--small hail followed by thunder. So I have left everything unplugged for the time being.

scenario 1 - not always, not in my case. In my case the best power cord goes to integrated tube amp.

scenario 2 - no sure, possibly.

I’ll add - if you have dedicated circuits install good quality outlets and go direct sans conditioner. Especially if it’s a 30 year old glorified power strip. That’s how I run my system - direct no power conditioner.

@immatthewj let me simplify this…

Scenario 1 - everything is plugged into the conditioner. In this case the besr power cord should be on the conditioner. Second best power cord should be on the amplifier. Go up the chain from there.
Scenario 2 - all sources are plugged into power conditioner, amp in the wall. In this case you should be using your best cord on the amplifier and second best on the conditioner.
I both cases it would be preferred to use highest possible quality cords on conditioner and amp. What constitutes a best power cord…the one that makes your amplifier sound its best and the one that makes your source components sound their best. Eventually work up to all power cords of equal quality.
What power conditioner are we talking about here?

Power cord  is an extension of power supply not of wall wiring, so…

Power cords is always  a fascinating subject, more so than other cables.

@inna , I've found it to be at least an as polarizing issue.  Big surprise, I am sure.

@ghdprentice , are you going straight into the wall with your gear?

Power cords is always  a fascinating subject, more so than other cables.

@ghdprentice , 

 So, if the question is, will putting a lower cost one directly to the conditioner, will it act as a limiter

yes, that was my question!

I like your answer because the older I get the lazier I get and the place where my outlets are and where I would need to move them to is not exactly a piece of cake to work at.

In my limited experience, power cord from the wall to power conditioner is very important.. I use PS Audio regenerator and experimented with a few power cords. Purist Audio Dominus was the best but I needed it for my amp, Purist Aquila was second best, so I left it there. Custom Power Cord Company Top Gun was third but it is great for source components.

Thanks for the input, @inna , I forgaot to add a couple of things:

1) the cord on my conditioner, as nice as it looks, is hardwired into the conditioner

2) and the conditioner itself is nearly 30 years old and is probably what I have heard affectionately referred to as a glorified strip.

I suppose when the smoke clears I’ll move the outlets, but where I will be working is not my favorite, so I am not sure how soon the smoke will clear.

Sorry, @soix , I’ll try to be clearer.

My question is if you have some of upgraded power cords and instead of plugging them into the wall you plug them into a conditioner which plugs into the wall via it’s own power cord, does that then downgrade or even negate the value that your upgraded power cords may have added to your system?

The reason I ask is because I just did some further power cord upgrading and I wanted to go straight into the wall with them (I had a couple of other aftermarket power cords that I had been going into a conditioner with) but I found that I couldn’t reach the wall from my CDP or my pre with only two meters. (My OEM corrs were three meters and they did reach the wall.)

It is not a disaster because the solution is that if I move the dedicated circuit outlets up a foot or maybe a foot and a half I can reach them with everything and I guess I’ll probably do that, but they are not in my favorite place to work I was just curious how the guys (and gals?) who are using pricier cords AND conditioners feel about what the cord from the conditioner may do to the whole effect.

While the ultimate answer is always, you have to try it to be sure. But my experience is that power cords are like mini conditioners. So, if the question is, will putting a lower cost one directly to the conditioner, will it act as a limiter... no, probably not. But of course power cords can make a big difference so, upgrading it as well will probably be worth it... when you can. 

In my limited experience, power cord from the wall to power conditioner is very important..  I use PS Audio regenerator and experimented with a few power cords. Purist Audio Dominus was the best but I needed it for my amp, Purist Aquila was second best, so I left it there. Custom Power Cord Company Top Gun was third but it is great for source components.

I honestly can’t follow this.