If I had any doubt of an alternate universe, after reading the posts of isochronism and a few others, I have no doubt now. Maybe some are just drifting through the vail from the alternate land of BITCHUTE and Q, where alternative facts and wild conspiracy theories rule and science, facts, logic and proof is regarded as a threat to liberty....Jim
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Well said Falconcrest! I was not going to reply further but the ridiculous blabber being spewed by peabrains like @yuviarora is agitating this Infectious disease physician I have been running covid-19 treatment services at the hospital where we are at 100% capacity, flooded with non-covid patients from the back log/pent up demand due to COVID and now becaues of resurging pandemic, we have approximately 10-15% additional patients, 90% of these new COIVD are unvaccinated The unvaccinated are prolonging the pandemic in the high socioeconomic countries. That is a fact. Masks greatly reduce transmission and save lifes. Nobody is harmed by wearing a mask. I too would like to go in person to Audiophile shows but there in deed seems to be a significant number of fools in this crowd that will make it less safe. These same people will eventually get COVID and will consume scarce costly resources, an outcome that can be avoided > 95% of the time with vaccination. there are countries (e.g., Singapore) that either are or plan to charge unvaccinated patients for the medical costs if they end up needing hospitalization. I think that is a great idea and perhaps will persuade people to be vaccinated. |
@nonoise Stop replying to my posts then. You are intelectually dishonest, and a bad faith actor......and you are a complete waste of my time. |
@isochronism I still dont understand from whom the wealth is supposedly transferred and to whom?
@teo_audio I wasnt trying to make you mad, I was trying to ask a general question about who should serve on the board of a pharma company? All the implications that Fauci or Gottlieb or whomever is corrupt, I would just like to know who you might appoint who could add value through their board service. Why is everyone so angry? Im amused by it actually. Take the shot, dont take the shot...no sweat.
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@yuviarora That’s what’s called humor, but in your case, a prescient observation on my part. The amount of oxygen you need to live on is not hampered by wearing a mask. See here, here, here, here, here, and just about any place a sane person would look. Also, stop "notifying" me or I’ll have to block you. Just post your nonsense and at sometime I’ll get around to it. You’re making me feel like I’m a higher form of authority that you have to confront to validate yourself. You’re not that pitiful, are you? All the best, Nonoise |
Classifying people in "informed" and "misinformed" in this political health/economical/political world wide crisis make no sense...Save for bit and pieces of verifiable indiscutable facts but they are the exception... There exist LEVELS of values and informations... No science can replace our free decisions making, nor the values scale we will use to act... Science has nothing to do with consensus , science is DIVIDED in DEBATES which are supposed to be rational BUT cannot ever erase some basic irrationality anyway...BUT science own an history with lessons to teach: in a pandemy for example .... All human activity are based on "values"... Science is a process not a common consensus...Then there is no way science can decide about our political action... But science can dictate what history teach us about what to do in a pandemic...With a coronavirus... Then it is the political will whom will decide what to do.... Facts demonstrate to anyone with a brain that the US takes all head on ass and all ass on head in his pandemic measures...proof: the best healthcare system in the world with the most casualties and deaths...WHY? We wait for a vaccination to come was crying Trump claiming now that he was the creator of the vaxx...... Science said so apparently they said...
I got a news for those who speak like that: Corporate technological development has NOTHING to do with science but with money... And science IS not technology...And science cannot govern us nor all our actions... They are and must be FREE choices...with no censorship at all... There is no "informed" and "misinformed" people here, the first with a white shirt and the others with a black shirt... We are not in a comic book here.... WE ARE ALL AT THE SAME TIME INFORMED AND MISINFORMED... NO EXCEPTION..... Then throw off dogmas and think....Together not against one another...
A note: this is not the time for a political debate bettween mask or anti mask...Like in TRump time |
Congratulations guys! Everyone is now convinced to your way of thinking. It's been a complete success and the argument hasn't been futile. Well done all! Now that we all have changed our positions and now agree could you please discuss politics? Hop on to religion when you're done with that. Much appreciated. |
@yuviarora , what's it like being over the edge? I hope I never find out. Point out just where I said masks don't affect oxygen levels. You're grasping at straws and looking rather foolish for it.
All the best, Nonoise |
@nonoise Again...Do you have no sense of Decency? Have you no Shame? |
https://www.mdpi.com/1660-4601/18/8/4344
Many countries introduced the requirement to wear masks in public spaces for containing SARS-CoV-2 making it commonplace in 2020. Up until now, there has been no comprehensive investigation as to the adverse health effects masks can cause. The aim was to find, test, evaluate and compile scientifically proven related side effects of wearing masks. For a quantitative evaluation, 44 mostly experimental studies were referenced, and for a substantive evaluation, 65 publications were found. The literature revealed relevant adverse effects of masks in numerous disciplines. In this paper, we refer to the psychological and physical deterioration as well as multiple symptoms described because of their consistent, recurrent and uniform presentation from different disciplines as a Mask-Induced Exhaustion Syndrome (MIES). We objectified evaluation evidenced changes in respiratory physiology of mask wearers with significant correlation of O2 drop and fatigue (p < 0.05), a clustered co-occurrence of respiratory impairment and O2 drop (67%), N95 mask and CO2 rise (82%), N95 mask and O2 drop (72%), N95 mask and headache (60%), respiratory impairment and temperature rise (88%), but also temperature rise and moisture (100%) under the masks. Extended mask-wearing by the general population could lead to relevant effects and consequences in many medical fields
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@nonoise you said masks don't affect oxygen levels. I posted 4 published studies saying otherwise, I can post 10 more. Do you have any shame?
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@yuviarora , Citing studies of atheltes affected by wearing a mask while doing their thiing has just what to do with fighting the spread of Covid? As for Drs wearing masks, like the ones who’ve already posted here said, they’ve been doing it since the early 1860s. Get a life. Stop with the BS. Stick to audio. All the best, Nonoise |
@cd318 I tried. That makles 7 people that I personally know that have been seriously injured by it. One of them is my good friend that was forced to take it by his work, and has also had severe symptoms shortly after his 2nd jab. Two autoimmune conditions flared up, one that is newly diagnosed, and another that he hasn’t has since he was a child. Last time I talked to him on the phone, he was crying... he knew all the stuff I am posting here, but he still took his chances with the jab.
Yeah, at this point...I can’t change anyone’s mind, this has all become very political. Red/Blue...Left/Right. And the implications of the Spike protein study are insane. Agressive incurable Cancer.... and for all intended purposes...AIDS.
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Do, Don’t, I don’t give a CRAP. Wear a mask. Wouldn’t it be wonderful to have your dentest come in stinking of Rye, a smelly old Tshirt and 1 inch fingernails painted black with stars on them.. He’s ready to work on YOUR mouth.. Usually folks that don’t want to be told what to do, usually need to be told what to do. USUALLY. Then there are those you just need to put behind a fence. They are bound and determined to have their way at YOUR expence. 7.9 billion people on the planet and it only takes a few to get the whole world sick. Maybe not SARs but the same mentality exist.. Superman DIED. You know what from? An infection and the LACK of propper health care. The real issue is he hopped on the horse of his own accord and broke his neck falling off.. The difference is his ailment didn’t have the potental to kill the neighbors.. Yea he was a hero!! That fell off a horse. Christopher Reeves, what a tragety that was completly avoidable.. I use to ride a LOT working on the Aratta Ranches as a kid.. You have to be careful on a horse, for the horses sake more so than the ryder..My Dad would loan me and my brother out during calving season, nut cuttin’ and rings in a pissed off bulls nose.. Regards |
DALLAS (CBSDFW.COM) – Doctors at Baylor Scott & White Hospital in Dallas say wearing a face mask while exercising has a significant impact on the body. That’s the result of a six-month study on the physiological effects of wearing a mask while working out during the COVID-19 pandemic. If you have wondered whether wearing a mask at the gym or running on a treadmill at home affects your performance, the answer, according to this Baylor research, is yes. Thirty-one people took part in the study. Researchers recorded vital signs and other data while participants ran on treadmills with and without cloth face coverings. The study found less oxygen in the blood and an increased heart rate among those wearing masks. It resulted in reduced exercised capacity by 29% and a 14% reduction in the time it took to reach exhaustion. The researches say the study did not find exercising with a face mask was dangerous. Researchers say the data can be useful to anyone from high level athletes to average people with active lifestyles. |
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/18500410/ This study was undertaken to evaluate whether the surgeons’ oxygen saturation of hemoglobin was affected by the surgical mask or not during major operations
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/32232837/ Headaches Associated to masking Most healthcare workers develop de novo PPE-associated headaches or exacerbation of their pre-existing headache disorders.
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This escalated quickly. I see we have our resident minister of pseudo-science and misinformation @yuviarora on the scene finally. And seriously bitchute, please? |
Haven't read this whole thread but I recently came across NRD's video about his family having COVID. I'm very sorry he and his family have suffered. It seems just terrible. All the red flags are there for inferring he and his family chose not to get vaccinated, from the severity of their symptoms, to the reticance to mention vaccines, to the "respect my choice" kind of talk and the reference to his "church community."
So on one hand it's awful to hear of that whole family suffering and I'm glad they are on the other side of it. Yet it's frusterating to see yet another instance of a level of suffering that could have (likely) been avoided.
And of course this subject flushes out the misinformed in every forum....
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If it wasn't so sad, it'd be fascinating to witness first hand, madness. You'd have to go all the way back to the early '30s to see it manifest in the German people and many centuries before that when witch hunters would go from city to city in Europe killing every female they encountered in the villages and towns they went to. And, here it is again, unfolding before our very eyes in our politics and as a result, in our approach to medicine, science, math and the ability to reason it out. Despite our paying lip service to ethics, morality and the constructs that should guide us, outright lying and deception hold a higher reward than telling and accepting the truth. Like I said, both sad and fascinating to watch. All the best, Nonoise |
"I begged my mother to not take the jabb, she didn’t listen.... She just got diagnosed with vaccine induced Nerve Damage, constant piercing ringing in her right ear, accomanied by crippling migranes."
It's best to let everyone make their own decision. You gave her the evidence, it's all you could do. My mother has had both jabs and has since been complaining of tiredness and pain in her hands. My dad is a fair bit older (almost 90) and has refused the jabs. I know several people who have experienced great discomfort after the second jab. Even worse, after the booster. I hope they are going to be ok. 2 of the people I knew personally unexpectedly died after receiving the second jab. I can't prove their deaths were linked but they were both physically active beforehand. No one I know personally has died from Covid, despite a dozen or so being ill (bad flu) and I hope it stays that way.
"The spike proteins that MRNA vaccine produces in your body are supposed to give you the immunity to covid, but now have been found to enter the blood stream, past the site of injection."
This is a huge concern. These vaccines are experimental and unlike any previous vaccines. If it's proven that the spike proteins are preventing DNA repair...well, you don't need me to spell it out.
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@yuviarora , Not playing any word games, at all. It's a literal and straigtforward reading of what they said.
Oh....please do. I can hardly wait.
All the best, Nonoise |
@nonoise "These results might suggest that the first vaccination induces immunogenicity but not sterile immunity." MIGHT Stop playing word games. Like I said, the spike proteins have been proven to enter the blood stream, past the site of the injection.
I can cite over 200 peer reviewed published medical studies that say masks do not stop viral spread, and actually make it worse. |
@secretguy Don’t worry, I’ll cite all my corroborating evidence in 55 years. It’s all there, trust me. |
This is old news..... and has been confirmed since then. The spike proteins that MRNA vaccine produces in your body are supposed to give you the immunity to covid, but now have been found to enter the blood stream, past the site of injection. The damage done by covid, is done by the spike... and the vaccine is making trillions of them inside your very own body. This is the stuff people are having side effects from, and the side effects look very much like the effects of covid, because they are the very same thing.
You do you, if you still want to go get your boosters, go right ahead.....but if you think you can mandate this crap onto other people, we are going to have a very big problem on our hands. |
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8051011/
A previously symptomless 86-year-old man received the first dose of the BNT162b2 mRNA COVID-19 vaccine. He died 4 weeks later from acute renal and respiratory failure. Although he did not present with any COVID-19-specific symptoms, he tested positive for SARS-CoV-2 before he died. Spike protein (S1) antigen-binding showed significant levels for immunoglobulin (Ig) G, while nucleocapsid IgG/IgM was not elicited. Acute bronchopneumonia and tubular failure were assigned as the cause of death at autopsy; however, we did not observe any characteristic morphological features of COVID-19. Postmortem molecular mapping by real-time polymerase chain reaction revealed relevant SARS-CoV-2 cycle threshold values in all organs examined (oropharynx, olfactory mucosa, trachea, lungs, heart, kidney and cerebrum) except for the liver and olfactory bulb. These results might suggest that the first vaccination induces immunogenicity but not sterile immunity. |
@nonoise MRNA vaccines produce trillions of spike proteins in your body. Spike proteins are deadly.....that is what all the doctors looking at the side effects of the vaccine have been screaming from the top of their lungs for the last year. These spike proteins are entering the bloody stream and getting thorugh the blood brain barrier, causing inflamation in every organ. Myocarditis and Pericarditis are caused by these spikes.
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So, your cut 'n paste agrees with what the 2 doctors have already posted here and with the 2 videos that I posted. What's your point? It doesn't back up any of your previous postings. It doesn't say the vaccine does this but that Covid does. The very last sentence sets up the role that a vaccine has in how it has to deal with the spike protein. Did you have an epiphany, biaaatch? All the best, Nonoise |
Yale Professor Dr. Harvey Risch and the University of California’s Dr. Aaron Kheriaty and Dr. Peter McCullough filed a Freedom of Information Act request asking the FDA for the data in August, and their group, the Public Health and Medical Professionals for Transparency, filed a lawsuit requesting the data in September. FDA assures us they did a robust analysis of the Pfizer vaccine data in only 108 days to expedite EAU but needs 55 years to redact the same documents before we the people can see them. The people suing are anything but ambulance chasers. And the fact that people here are not troubled by this abhorrent lack of transparency for a vaccination that has ZERO LIABILITY is extremely troubling to me.
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@nonoise Myocarditis and pericarditis are known side-effects of the vaccine. Stop spreeading misinformation. |
As soon as I saw the phrase plaintiff's lawyers, that said all I needed to hear. Ambulance chasers trying to make a buck off of this. Nothing new. Make a buck off this? Why don't you think for one moment who has actually made hundreds of billions from this. And, speaking of the FOIA request, do you think the FDA spent 55 years reviewing the documents from the pharmaceutical companies before approving the vaccines? Obviously not, so it's hogwash that they take that position now. |
