Tinnitus remedy?


http://www.empr.com/news/study-evaluates-oxytocin-as-potential-therapy-for-tinnitus/article/524727/
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I have had Tinnitus since 1982 and now 73 yrs old..5 yrs ago tinnitus become louder to point I need sleeping pills to sleep...But the frequency. of my noise level still allows me to hear some great sounds from a new Raven Audio Reflection Tube Amp...So I feel blessed at what I do hear coming from the speakers....I find if I pull my shoulders up towards my head very hard and lower at times my noise calms down at times...For when I do pull shoulders up and keep them there the noise level increases..I do this at night in bed to help relax some..We all have something and just have to learn to live with it..

Besides the usual suspects for creating tinnitus, the Sun is a natural relaxer / healer, not having too much exposure (skin cancer, etc)

Tinnitus seems to be related to blood pressure and nervousness.

Caffeine, dehydration and sodium does increase tinnitus in some people. Also I’ve found a direct connection between taking aspirin (or any NSAID’s) and the development of severe tinnitus for at least 2 or 3 days. I can’t take any meds in that class of drugs. The tinnitus is incredibly severe. Makes sense because those drugs cause tissue “dehydration”. 
I have a question for the group. Has anyone else noticed the lack of daily sun exposure causing an increase in tinnitus, and severity? I live in Arkansas and have no issues with tinnitus from April - mid-Oct and it completely subsides while on beach vacations. I’m in the sun 2 to 8 hours a day in the summer and it disappears in a week or two of heavy sun exposure.  Between Oct-March I get very little direct sun exposure and I’ve had to find other solutions. Less caffeine, “massage” the tonsils (or back of throat) causes drainage and over 2 or 3 days reduces  tinnitus. Drinking LOTS of water everyday and limiting sodium helps. Also avoiding laying horizontal (in bed) more than 6 or 7 hours helps. One more thing I learned that helps. Quickly moving my head around into different angles relative to the floor. Basically  “jostling” the fluids in my sinuses seems to create drainage that reduces tinnitus. If I do this a couple times a day for 5 min or so I can usually reduce/eliminate it. Caffeine is my biggest problem though. Too much caffeine and only heavy sun exposure is effective. 
Last thing - which is probably obvious - healthy stress management and exercise helps tremendously. Periods of high unresolved stress causes  me to get severe tinnitus, if I don’t take preventive measures. 
Best of luck. 

lloydc
502 posts
10-25-2016 6:44am
"One of the so-called 'love hormone' studies was published in 2012, and it examined oxytocin levels in new lovers versus those in single people. It found that there were high levels of the hormone in the first stages of romantic attachment, and that these were sustained for six months."



If audiophilia is a sublimation of sexual response, then perhaps like new love, the acquisition of new equipment by an audiophile triggers oxytocin release by the pituitary... and after 6 months, the bloom on the rose fades, and the urge to get new equipment returns.
I think I'm going to vote for that as the best post in Audiogon history! :D

"One of the so-called 'love hormone' studies was published in 2012, and it examined oxytocin levels in new lovers versus those in single people. It found that there were high levels of the hormone in the first stages of romantic attachment, and that these were sustained for six months."


If audiophilia is a sublimation of sexual response, then perhaps like new love, the acquisition of new equipment by an audiophile triggers oxytocin release by the pituitary... and after 6 months, the bloom on the rose fades, and the urge to get new equipment returns. 

I'd avoid the oxytocin without a physician's advise unless you are about ready to deliver a baby.
My Neurologist suggested some get relief from taking citrus bioflavins. The capsules are readily available in health food stores/groceries. I have been taking 2 a day for about 3 weeks with no discernible result, however.  Of course, avoid loud sounds. I recently got hearing aids. I was told they may alleviate the issue , as one theory of its cause is the brain substituting that noise for the frequency level in the hearing loss. Once again, no discernible result. However, each person's response may be different, so try the bioflavins, and get your ears checked for loss.
I suffer from Meniere's Disease which includes episodes of tinnitus.  I sometimes use a Widex Zen hearing aid which includes a feature that helps eliminate the episodic ringing in my left ear.  It's an expensive little gadget, but it works. 
I have tinnitus and see no relationship between it and drinking coffee. I stopped drinking coffee about 6 weeks ago, but the tinnitus has not improved. My conclusion is that you can have your  coffee and drink it too.
I'm a life long shooter, the last 5 or 6 years competitively and a definite coffee fiend. No wonder no matter how much dough I throw at this hobby I can't tell the difference!  :  )

Perhaps we can do our own little study with oxytocin to see how well it works. Anyone else up for it ?

of course to do it for real we'd need a control group...  I.e someone would have to buy the pills and find a placebo that looked the same and send them to participants who didn't know if they were getting the oxy or placebo .  

 It is not so much a hobby as an obsession. But it dovetails nicely with my audio obsession. I use the time while the tubes warm up to make coffee.
Lostbears,  FWIW everything oregonpapa sez about coffee beans is right on! What he doesn't say though is that, like audio, it can quickly become a hobby and many won't appreciate your efforts so much as to think you are a bit anal. :-)

I have, and highly recommend the roaster made by Hot Top. Sweet Maria sells them I believe. 
  1. oregonpapa
    1.  What roaster do you use? I have thought about home roasting but not yet tried. 

Up to today I always thought audiophiles would do anything possible to improve their audio experience.
You learn something new every day.
Tinnitus is a funny thing. My ears ring at about the same volume as someone speaking to me in a quiet voice. I also have gradually lost more and more of my high frequency sensitivity. After numerous medical tests the Dr says I am gething old (loss of range) and I likely suffer from too many concussions  (Tinnitus). I can still hear beyond female vocals but have to spike the curve above 12 k. While he said their is no cure there are several herbal supplements that actually work, but no prescriptions medicine. He even handed me a flyer to a website that sells one version. Of course I haven't been smart enough to order it yet. Old=stubborn.

So the question comes up. How can a partially deaf guy with a loud ringing in his ears enjoy audio? For me, it is the best part of my day. I forget the Tinnitus and I focus on vocals and mid-bass. With the right amp speakers (on the bright side) can hear enough music to brighten my day (pun intended). 

So the philosophical question about what amp or speakers are the "best" is truly relative for me as it should be for all. 
Very interesting. I pulled the abstract of this study--which had zero information about dosing. I'm a medical writer and write about drugs for my living. I also have annoying tinnitus that interferes w/my audio habit--but never heard of oxytocin until today. Believe it or not, you can purchase intranasal oxytocin online, without prescription, for $49.99. Its primary current use is not tinnitus, but for relief of social anxiety arising from autism or social anxiety disorder; in particular, it facilitates the user's making of eye contact with others (something these conditions hinder or render impossible). Live and learn.

Tinnitus is becoming more of a problem for me because my primary audio experience these days is desktop audio (speakers 2 ft from head). That's not as bad as it sounds--I rarely listen at elevated volumes. The real issue is headphone listening, something I'm becoming very fond of & involved with. I know better than to blast the headphones. Still, after 30" of moderate-volume headphone listening, my tinnitus is always worsened for 12+ hours.

Still, I'm one of the lucky ones, insofar as my tinnitus never seems to coalesce into definable tones or notes; rather, it is akin to white noise (if you imagine white noise only from the midrange on up). The really unfortunate ones have tinnitus that sounds like percussion, or repeated, distinct notes. Some tinnitus sufferers have actually committed suicide over this (a horrifying thought). I'm extremely lucky that my tinnitus is indistinct. 

Re coffee: due to my (likely unrelated) extreme migraine issues, I've purposefully moderated my caffeine intake several times in the past 8 years, along with a number of other dietary experiments. Nothing I've ever done w/any food intake, including caffeine, has had a noticeable effect on tinnitus. Instead, tinnitus seems to gradually increase with age, regardless of other factors.

I didn't starting drinking coffee 'til I was 29, but made up for lost time. I got hooked by a guitarist I was playing with, but he had nothing to do with my tinnitus. He played (R.I.P.) a Telecaster into a '65 blackface Deluxe Reverb!

Thanks for the beans for roasting info mofi, I'm ready to graduate to it. Grinding whole beans was a step up, but I would guess roasting them at home is an even bigger one!

I've been reading a lot about different frequency & white noise therapy... I've read for years that the problem with Tinnitus is that is gets set in your brain and once it gets locked in,  externals trigger your brain... I've read about 3 different approaches, but the idea is to re train your brain so that you can get actual results.
For all you coffee drinkers that are also Tidal subscribers.

New Playlist:

Death Before Decaf: Songs About Coffee
geoffkait
Actually coffee is at the very top of the food chain. If you don't drink coffee you can die. You can even go without water for several days. Not so with coffee.

huh ? so, how are you making your coffee ?    

oregonpapa 

The flavors are amazing with fruit, caramel and chocolate overtones. No bitterness at all.

Interesting OP.  This is in total opposite to the current NABOB respect the Bean movement/campaign in Canada.  

https://vimeo.com/135156048


not affiliated with NABOB and I do not use NABOB either.    

Actually coffee is at the very top of the food chain. If you don't drink coffee you can die. You can even go without water for several days. Not so with coffee.
Coffee is one of the basic food groups. There's no way that I'm going to give it up.  

I got into home roasting over ten years ago. I buy my green coffee beans over the Internet. 

Coffee is a lot like wine. There's "Two Buck Chuck" at Trader Joe's, and then there's a fine Cab from Napa. Same with coffee.  Once you get home roasting down, there's no turning back. There's no way that anything store-bought, pre-roasted coffee can compare with home-roasted. The flavors are amazing with fruit, caramel and chocolate overtones. No bitterness at all.   

If anyone would like to get started, here's the site I use:

 www.sweetmarias.com

Let me know if you would like any help in selecting coffee, brewing or roasting equipment. 

I'll suffer a little tinnitus and keep the coffee, thank you.  



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Cheers! Happy 4/20!

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tooblue
119 posts
09-29-2016 12:00pm
Coffee/caffeine as a cause for tinnitus is very bad news for me, I likes my coffee too and have already cut back to half decaf but my drink of choice are black Russians so I need to just go lay down now.

The good news in all of this is that today 29 Sept is National Coffee Day. Here's mud in your eye. :-)

Coffee/caffeine as a cause for tinnitus is very bad news for me, I likes my coffee too and have already cut back to half decaf but my drink of choice are black Russians so I need to just go lay down now.

I have suffered from tinnitus for years.  I think it's the caffeine that aggravates it as well as salt intake.  I always have one espresso shot in the the morning but if I have anymore I switch to decaf.  Try to watch salt intake as well. 

Here is some more insight into tinnitus.  don't worry about the URL is from shadyurl

http://www.5z8.info/racist_x4b1nh_how2printmoney

One of 200kg young musician I know of said he knows about risk to the heart, but he still likes his pasta with sausage daily.
tooblue,

I've read several times that eliminating coffee is a good way to try to reduce/eliminate tinnitus. If you are a coffee drinker and suffer from tinnitus, you might want to try to quit coffee for a while to see if it helps. Of course, the headaches might be worse that the tinnitus......

TIC
I'll say jond! Mine seems to be worse lately, but I've been drinking a lot of coffee.
Ok posted and had to delete lol of course I read that as oxycotin not oxytocin!
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