The Big Misconception About Electricity

Well some peoples BUTTONS are pretty big. Guys like cindy are pretty good at pushing them too. . audio2design had a simular effect. One thing for sure we'll get the whole story from Master M, not the spin.. Guys like cindy and audio2design come and go. Next, everything will be erased from his post and POOF! Phantoms of the internet. Master M. knows I got his back. 

BTW don't be bad mouthin' Tesla either.. :-)

Regards

I am too passionnate to be wise.... I am used to be with young people for 40 years  Too late to change but i apologize to all for my rant ....

Thanks for your interest and i wish you the best....

@mahgister Thanks for the interesting video!

As you can probably tell, it’s really not worth expending energy arguing with cindy about his occasional, ludicrous assertions. Whether they are the result of sheer ignorance, a desire for attention, or some warped sense of pleasure that he gets from constantly arguing (no matter how obviously wrong his position may be), it’s best to at least try to ignore him.

@mahgister Thanks for the interesting video!

As you can probably tell, it’s really not worth expending energy arguing with cindy about his occasional, ludicrous assertions. Whether they are the result of sheer ignorance, a desire for attention, or some warped sense of pleasure that he gets from constantly arguing (no matter how obviously wrong his position may be), it’s best to at least try to ignore him.

To educate some who think that Tesla is not a scientist, here an american engineer and researcher explain the Tesla coil and the Tesla tower, because Tesla was one of the first if not the first to recreate lightning and plasma ball...

It is only to give an idea of what it is...

No tinkerer ever develop ideas on this scale....

This thread speak about electricity , then why not understanding better one of his father with Maxwell....

cindyment

The thread was already derailed when i entered into it and correcting a point about Tesla,and the fact that the "electrical model" is a hypothesis only for sure, ( i even ask yuvi to end cluttering the thread) not an accepted one but a fringe hypothesis is one thing and saying that Tesla is not a scientist, which he was, studying 3 years physics at the university, and calling him falsely, to gain a point in a discussion, a "tinkerer" which he never was is the reason i spoke my mind...

Those who will read the thread will see how you said anything to transform this thread in a joke by not admitting you are wrong about insulting Tesla...

This thread is written .... Anybody can verify the way you transform it ALSO in a circus by volontary ignorance... You know perfectly well that Tesla was not a tinkerer if not you are an idiot....

Tesla was a scientist save for those ignorant of history.....

He lost the Nobel prize attributed wrongly to Marconi with 17 patents of Tesla, heavily back by Edison money.... This is the truth.... He was recognized after his death only the creator of radio by a tribunal ....

Sorry but truth matter...save for idiots....

By the way for those who dont understand history there was no engineer in electricity in the modern meaning of the world at the time where Tesla was studying physics and no need for them in crowd , electricity was a physicist domain mostly more than an engineereing matter at these times GUESS WHY?...Nobody needs an electrical engineer in most city of the world... The man who created the electrical industrial age of electricity being Tesla.... Only tinkerer like Edison touch it or physicist like Steinmetz or Tesla....

I would caution all who read TEO_AUDIO's response's to not take the confusing hyperbole too seriously.  When a convoluted lecture starts out equating "Delta" to "Rate of Change" (that's like equating distance to speed) you should be justifiably skeptical of the validity of the rest.

Not that anyone cares... but did I mention I have upgraded my AC cords and that all my audio/speaker wires are separated from one another, elevated and/or suspended? Did it all through 45+ years of practical experience, prior to viewing this interesting video...

BTW, I had understood Tesla was an Engineer not a Scientist (score one for the Practical Side)

US Senator goes on TV and says First Strike Nuclear attack on Russia is not off the table 🤦‍♂️

Our crazy Physics professor is not alone in this sobering warmongering. 

Remember I take this thread at this state as a joke. 

Why would you waste your time then? I guess you don't have anything more important to do.  Is this how you spend time off for work.

For sure the wrong of others made you right...

You said it yourself: Some people take life too seriously....

This is the only point where you are right, but not the way you think...

"And the band played on"...🔈 🔉 🔊 

It takes some extra good due diligence to arrive at the conclusion that the Russians have poor missile defenses! 🤣🤣🤣

Here are my succinct word:

Tesla was the greatest inventor of this century and desinterested by money...

You are a fraud....

Hey whippy, still waiting for your analysis beyond talking points.

Mahgister, I easily poked holes in many of your (and other) claims. It was not hard. When you simply post statement lacking nuance or history into what happened before or who was actually involved, it is easy. Frankly, I should be commended for even finding claims in the pages of what I am sure comes across to many as ramblings. I suggest you would accomplish far more with less, and more succinct and targeted words.

I consider relentlessly posting things without a nary of due diligence on almost anything you are posting, posting things from people recognized pretty much as frauds, and letting emotions eliminate your ability to take a balanced and accurate view to be arguing in bad faith.

The irony of @cindyment taking others to task for failing to do their due diligence and "arguing in bad faith" is incalculably deep.

This thread is a much bigger misconception, more like a disaster for those involved, compared to the supposed electricity one that started it. Go figure! Nobody looks good arguing over whatever happens to cross their mind ad infinitim.

You are not even able to think rationally... AKA reacting rationnally to an argument....Your goal is making a point not truth, because you already own truth....Your behavior was the same with others in a thread about Russia and Us defense....

Who decide that what i posted about Tesla is a fraud?

You?

You are the sole arbiter of what is true?

If someone read all your post about Tesla his conclusion will be that you are a clown OR of very bad faith...

In the beginning i cited for a fact the eidetic memory ability of tesla, you deny them and never recognized to be wrong about this FACT... Even after i proved to you with FACT that eeidetic memory exist and some peoiple are able to draw cities from the air after a first sight and WITHOUT ERROR...

The only arguments you come with to diminish and slander a great man were ridiculous: someone discover something analogous few time before or he was not alone in the electrical field, or all what is said about him by fringe people made him a fraud.... You are not completely stupid but because i know that you are "relatively intelligent" and if we study your behavior with people i must conclude that you are a contemptuous man with a very limited perspective on things...

Myself i say what i think in good faith, i dont mock others and i try to let all perspective to be listen to...

saying to people " bye bye" is your method of discussion when you lost argument or patience because of being pointing wrong, because you consider they are stupid? NO because you are always right for sure....Almost all people are stupid for you even before beginning the discussion....Save very few...

I consider people here, human beings, i like to argue but with arguments and not to win a point ONLY and ESPECIALLY recognizing when i am wrong on a subject when i know i am pointed wrong by fact ... It is not your case....Fact are a tool for you not an arbiter...

Anyway speaking with you is stupidity of my part, anybody reading you know all that... You are too old to discover respect and truth.... You know too much and too little...You give RESPECT TO THOSE very selected who speak the same....

Repeating Tesla is a tinkerer or a hack made not much reason to convince someone of your seriousness, it only illustrate your misconception coming from your irrational reaction to undersground culture where Tesla is a symbol, but being a symbol in a fringe movement dont make Tesla an exagerated phenomenon in the history of invention AT ALL....

Speaking with someone who can never recognize that he is wrong had no interest at all...

Someone who speak with contempt with people who he consider wrong because he himself is always right even when pointed wrong by evidence, or at least debatable, is like an idiot painting himself in a corner in plain sight...

for sure this will not affect you at all.... Guess why?

Like you said to someone all this is only a circus and you are the pist master for sure....Why taking all this seriously? because some idiot like me take truth seriously....

Why do you act like this is simple... You know more than anyone and anyway the majority of people being stupid you dont feel shame when your behavior is only sarcasm and contempt why?  Why being ashamed? Your are not even conscious of your behavior...

Enjoy the circus....

I dont....

I consider relentlessly posting things without a nary of due diligence on almost anything you are posting, posting things from people recognized pretty much as frauds, and letting emotions eliminate your ability to take a balanced and accurate view to be arguing in bad faith.  If you are going to do that, you should not expect those you argue with to "play fair". Good faith is a two way street.

I tried 🙏

Some dont understand when some pompous ass take nothing seriously because he like to argue without any good faith nor respect to truth...because all people are inferior to his intelligence...And...

Because it is funny...

A joke is like a cherry it is good when it is well placed...Too much cherry and it is a diarrhea no more a good meal...

A wise man joke WITH people not at their expanse...

Do you catch?

myself i am like kitechaser .....But a bit less well disposed.... 

Cindyment

I’m being very sincere, every thread that I have seen you in you are actively picking fights with people. I hope you take my advice and take some time off this platform.

Spend the holidays with loved ones, anything but this 🙏 I don’t have much else to add, please just take care of yourself.

Kitechaser,

Seriously bud. You have some projection issues. Look at some of what you have wrote. It's pretty unbalanced, highly reactionary, and does not show stable control over your emotions.  You definitely have company.

You two should get some help, I sincerely mean it.

If not for yourself do it for your families 🙏 I am not trying to be funny or offensive, maybe a break from this forum is needed? Suicide rates are sky rocketing, and unresolved issues can be a trigger especially nowadays.

Will you judge all republican americans to be stupid  save 2?

That was my point...

It make no sense to judge people by politic affiliation...

Especially in this crisis....

Well there is certainly lots of crazy in this thread :-)

Covid has indeed….. look homeward angel ( which is an excellent book btw )

if i can offend you into being a part of team “ F your feeling “ NEO Republican party, then you are fragile. 
Glad you still have a vote that counts. IF you decide to switch sides, i defend your right to do so. 
Jim

tomic601

So @kitechaser please do report me to the mod, where exactly is the threat ?

Covid has made people certifiably crazy., threatening and bullying complete strangers in private DMs. 

and for the record, of course Tesla ( the man ) was a genius of amazing impact and influence. The invisible hand did him in…. well and perhaps a bit of ego and vices…like all of us.

I am a Robot with a Porsche hat ( turbo, lower case cursive )

This guy just sent me a threatening message because of my last comment. Well that's one way to convince someone. 

@magister how do the Republicans say it in French “ F your Feelings “….  Sure, there a few decent R left, Liz is one, Lisa another, …wow, we are up to two…

I sent my Dotard tax cut to the food bank

Before ya vote, ya gotta eat

I am a Robot devoid of innocence

There is great soul in the body of some republican and in the body of some democrat...

Someone who judge man with politic tag is an.... pick the word....

Especially in this crisis.....

Tesla was a hack

I was a real Republican, you are riding a hijacked train…

Lots of us…maybe 8 million

I am not a Putin Puppet Robot

Strange Fruit should be required listening Chuck

I know you can’t really disavow the, got to cobble enough vote….

I am a robot that listens to the lyrics

@tomic601 I'm a democrat, but people like you make me want to not be one. 

Calling republicans and evangelicals klansmen. Because you are so compassionate. Right.

can we kneel at the nuke football game ?

i am a robot programmed with more compassion than a Republiklan evangelical 

This magnificent video will show to some that Tesla did not invented ONLY a motor...

And anyway it is so clever and so beautiful than i dont post it to contradict the disgusting soul who tried to reduce Tesla to be a "tinkerer" but for all to see and enjoy...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=suIAo0EYwOE&list=PLnQJF3Qi_4_CGFyisehOpLvbpDhdIe_ld&index=173

Lets go to war with Russia and China yes!!!

Our missiles are bigger than theirs way bigger💣💣💣💣

And we should definitely treat it like a football game because that’s what smart well educated intelligent emotionally stable people do. It’s not like wars have any real world consequences 🤦‍♂️

regarding the Atlantic magazine story about the twilight zone TV show:

Gold has not—well, not yet anyway—lost all value, as The Twilight Zone claims it will by the year 2061 in "The Rip Van Winkle Caper" (1961).

Mentioned right in this thread, earlier, Toyota corporation has patents in transmutation of elements.

Closer than you think.

Actually, most of their nuclear arsenal is below the Earth.

Why do you find it necessary to call people names?

It cheapens and weakens your position and standing.

I have close friends that died in Iraq and Afghanistan (wars we lost) , and you guys talk about war with Russia like it’s a video game.

Russia, a country that has the biggest Nuclear Arsenal on the face of the Earth.

You old morons watch too much TV.