You forgot how the election in the US was rigged and JC is the son of god
The thing is, the people who are constantly taking a dump on SR, have never heard their products.
The internet is a fools paradise. Hence there are things like QAnon, flat earthers, Covid deniers etc...
Loads of pseudo intellectuals who think they are making a relevant point by comparing apples and oranges.
I have yet to read a single post from anyone who has actually bought SR's products and then proceeded to lambaste them for having been sold a pile of crap.
George creates his own reality, as shown above. Being an incredibly abusive bully, his flagging of posts he doesn’t like has gotten many valid comments deleted, and he mistakenly celebrates this as having Admin on his side.
He’s done the same on other threads which have nothing to do with SR or any kind of tweak. It’s how he operates. One can disagree on an amp design and if he feels threatened, he has a post deleted. I’ve read where members have complained of this but to no avail.
If Admin were really against SR and their products, they’d speak out about it like they’ve done with political debates that’ve gotten out of hand. I can’t recall anytime that Admin has injected their beliefs on a product into any discussion. If George knows of any, he should point it out. George just wants us to believe that Admin is as bad an actor as he is.
Because this is where their products were being shilled the most on any open forum. Then admin started to realize it after the so called "naysayers" called the "snake oilers" to task, obvious then was being used as a free advertising platform, and has now kept all "snake oil" on a tight leash. And good on them for doing it, because it was getting out of control. And making a mockery of this web site. You would never see that amount of "snake oil" getting away with it on a site where the "big boys" are like Nelson Pass, John Curl etc etc etc
Actually there's a great thought! Get your messiah from SR to come onto DiyAudio forum and and preach his fuses,hft's, uef's wares there to the "big boys" and see how long he lasts.
Huh, no wonder that this Ted annoys people so much. Not that the other one is especially likeable. This Ted sneaked in the comments of some other people that Gene clearly did not agree with. Built the case without there being a case.
Once he started with the ending and "employees, America" and what not, he held on to the straw of "I am a good guy". Which he may be, for all I know. Still, it must take a special person to idolize him. Slick salesman. Bernie.
Well, why would he come here? So closed minded folks - who will not listen (Or are incapable of listening...) - can cement their closed-minded attitudes?
Why?
He might as well head over to Audioholics and do the same there.
I would like to see Gene take Synergistic Research up on the offer. That would be fun and interesting.
Will never happen, Denney wouldn't do it in an open forum. And now he's taken his used-car/real-estate salesman tutorial Boob-tube video down. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PKLuLfj2iC4
He’s been invited here to a open forum many times to backup what the fusers, hft’ers, uef’ers say about his snake oil, and not once has he backed them with his print here.
Point out where someone, even you, have contacted Ted Denny to come to A'gon to debate you. Screaming from you pulpit here doesn't count.
I would like to see Gene take Synergistic Research up on the offer. That would be fun and interesting.
Given Ted’s confidence that his products can be shown to work by objective measurements, I’m surprised that...as far as I know!...Synergistic Research has not provided any such demonstration.You’d think that would be a selling point if such demonstration were available, given the failure of competitors to provide such evidence beyond competing sales patter.
I don’t see any evidence on the SR web site of objective verification through measurements (much less listening tests controlling for bias), or on an internet search. If I’ve missed it on the SR website, or anywhere else on the internet, someone please point me towards it.
The only thing I’ve found about objective measurements from Synergistic Research is this old Stereophile Forum thread:
In that thread Ted apparently believed he had presented measured proof of a difference when using one of his products. There was lots of pushback by the technical types wanting to rule out error. In the end, Ted admitted there was indeed a problem with the files that rendered the data files "corrupted" and "inaccurate." Which was good of him to admit! He then said he’d move forward in trying to establish this objective evidence employing an "objective third party with experience in the field of digital room correction for publication later this year."
I can’t find anything suggesting the objective evidence was ever presented after that stereophile thread. Again...I’d love to be pointed towards that evidence if it was presented, though I suspect we’d know about it if that happened.
So, it looks like this was tried before without success that I’m aware of.
Frankly, though I’m skeptical about such things, I’d like to see Synergistic Research’s claims verified by objective measurements!First of all, it would provide solid evidence for customers of the product’s claims. Second, it would be very intriguing technically, and possibly establish novel ways of improving hi-fi system performance that many hadn’t considered before, that actually have objective evidence, further widening the audience for such tweaks.
It’s a bummer that bad blood seems to be keeping this from happening.
perkri OP He is putting his money where his mouth is, thats for sure!
You must be blind!!!!!!!! He’s been invited here to a open forum many times to backup what the fusers, hft’ers, uef’ers say about his snake oil, and not once has he backed them with his print here.
Some people are careful with the money they earn simply because they do not become bold parasiting on other people’s money.
Some do not mind paying extra for repackaged fuses. Who really cares? Nobody will take fuses with them after all is said and done. No matter how much or how little they paid for them.
Surprised they let us post that. Awful lot of guys around here no different at all from Gene. They run around chanting snake oil at anything they don't understand, oblivious to the insult this is to the hobby, the industry, and all us serious audiophiles.
"Ted can turn many people off" seems to me to be less to do with Ted, than "many people" just can't stand to see someone be really successful, smart, and talented. My bet is not a one of them can come up with so much as one reason Ted turns them off, other than the ones I just said, he is a whole lot smarter and doing a whole lot better than you.
Well, guess what? That is the way it is supposed to be! This is the world working out just the way it should! Ted is successful, Gene is broke and pathetic.
This continues. Ted can turn many people off, but he is making a good point on what bashing the US based companies means for the jobs of those people working in them. Check out the last part. Well said
Its not about being on one side or the other. A case in which a person builds a business and then another "expert" attacks the very foundation of this business. One created and built and the other sits back and criticizes without merit. I can tell you which of the two is more deserving of respect. I should add I am no fan of Ted and I think many of his claims dubious and most of his gear overpriced.
I cannot believe the people on the side of SR... I know nothing of Audiohlics management but the guy from SR is a total D.B! if I am reading this wrong I apologize....
Glupson, Yes I was going to put that the same goes for Ted but forgot.
Nothing of consequence is likely to come out of this endeavor and both will leave the fray claiming victory. Although Ted will benefit if Gene doesnt take the bait.
Pairing is critical. Great pairing will elevate a modest wine. Terrible pairing can make a great wine undrinkable.
Much like synergy in a system, be that components or tweaks.
I had friends who I trusted when they would suggest a wine. And, they are very much capable of describing what it is about this wine they like. So, I knew if I picked up a product they suggested, it would be something I would enjoy depending on what it was being paired with.
Now, if someone I don't know goes off on a product - for positive or negative reasons - that I don't know, then I really know nothing about that product.
At this point, it's up to me to do my research and see if it's something I want to try.
But I am not going to jump to conclusions about a product I have no direct personal experience with.
If I am unable to hear the difference of changing something out, or trying something new, then it most likely is something I do not need and I should consider looking elsewhere to "improve" on my music listening experience.
I think someone respectable has to take Genes place and take Ted up on the offer , question is who Oh who would that Guy be . We can put a Medium shirt on him or her and even call him Eugene , Im pretty sure Jamie and Adam Savage aren't doing anything and I think Adam is even an audiophile . Who would be the best person to take the challenge in Genes place ? And if Ted Turns that down you know he's a True scumbag because Im pretty sure he knew Gene would not take him up on that , he's getting exactly what he wanted out of this cause I didn't know his name last week. It cant be MillerCarbon either He buys Ted Dennys Farts , they were extracted from his butt with a Tesla Coil right into his tires , he gets a better ride in his new Model X, cause everything matters Chuck. Seriously can we all agree on who that would be ?? If it was done right it would be very informative
Love your wine analogy as I haven't been to a tasting since the onset of Covid. Thankfully, on June 16th everything is supposed to open (in California) and maybe I can get back to my weekend love affair with all of those varietals. God, how I miss just that.
And you're right about how some people have WAYYYY better taste than others. I saw something on wine tasting some time ago and of a couple of thousand DNA combos available for taste, we only use about 280- 300 of them so no two people are alike and some are just plain superior due to the lottery nature of it all. It's what you're born with.
I've tried various tweaks from several manufacturers...some tweaks I have kept from some manufacturers and some I have not (from the same manufacturer!) - Some are more discernible than others, some preferable (perhaps system balancing). But good grief you have to be deaf not to hear some of the differences - seriously...but hey, I have friends that can't taste the difference between a napa cab from a highly respected wine maker and cheap red wine...I can taste the difference and to me and my budget its worth it to me to buy and drink the "better" , and yes more expensive, stuff. But hey if it's all made from the same varietal of grapes, why should it taste any different? But do I criticize my friends who can't taste the difference? Nope, I just don't waste the good stuff on them, I keep it for myself...and yes, I have inexpensive red wine in my cellar for just that occasion...are they still my friends? Absolutely...I respect their pallet lust like they respect mine...Oh, and by the way, watch some of the wine documentaries on netflix...some folks have olfactory that is WAYYYYY better than others...so...perhaps it goes to reason that some have better hearing????
And stop putting **** on admin in your posts, they do an amazing job of keeping these forum pages from turning into a "snake oil" free for all, they know who shilling and whose not and just a gullible fuser. And they also keep a lid on personal abuse, especially when the abusee has not even engaged the abuser directly personally in any way.
Georgie, you just don't get it, do you? You're the most abusive person around here. Looks like you can dish it out but can't take it.
And another thing, having Admin baby sit you and citing your post as the abusive one in their communication with me is not the reason why mine was deleted. It's favoritism on their part. Evidently, they found your post abusive as well when researching my flagging of your post and just deleted mine, but cited yours. It's just a flimsy excuse on your part as you enjoy being baby sat.
You just don’t get it, must be something about being a fuser
but they cite your abusive post (8 above this one) as the one that I wrote.
a retaliatory post to your personal abusive **** post, that’s what that was.
Keep on with the hate knowing that Admin’s got your back.
If you were a nicer person they they would leave you alone. Take the hint, and stop the personal abuse posts and it won’t come back at you as retaliatory posts.
Hey Georgie, how many times do I have to tell you I don't own any SR products? You keep harping on me that I do so what's your problem? I've even gone on the record (many times) that I don't think anyone needs to pay anywhere near $150 for a fuse to get better sound so again, what's your problem?
And, it must be nice to have Admin working your corner as I've reported your insults for deletion and yet I get the notice that mine is being deleted, but they cite your abusive post (8 above this one) as the one that I wrote. How nice for you, mate. Keep on with the hate knowing that Admin's got your back. 👍
You’re the only one I know of who’s screamed his fool head off over a challenge of sorts; on how Ted should come on this forum and what, debate the likes of you?
Your the fuser fool for paying $150+ for a 10cent fuse, and he had his chance many times not just by me but many others to come on here to this public forum and defend what you fools say about his mains fuses and the direction it put in and his other snake oil products.
@mapman : what cable company are you a fan of? Thank you.
I like DNM Reson and Signal Cable. Also Audioquest is fine. I have and use some MIT wires as well. I like almost all second hand used wires better than new in terms of value.
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