I've owned this exact pre since 2013 and love it. However, in my system it's not particularly revealing of tubes. I've used the stock EH 6922s as well as 6N1Ps and currently Reflector 6922 equivalents, and pretty much same sound from them all. This pre is easy on tubes, btw, and I've yet to have one go bad on me yet...lovely piece in my opinion.
Suggestions for Preamp Tubes
Friends,
I seek your suggestions for preamp tubes. My preamp is a Quicksilver remote control line stage preamp that came equipped with two 6DJ8 tubes. Mike Sanders, who built the preamp, confirmed that I can substitute the stock tubes with 6N1P, 6AQ8, 6922, or 7308 tubes. The treble seems a bit bright, although the bass and mids seem lovely to me with the 6DJ8 tubes. Should I try another option from among these alternatives?
The other components in my system are:
Audiolab CD transport
Cambridge Audio CXN100 Streamer
Cambridge Audio DACMagic 200M
The aforementioned Quicksilver preamp
A custom tube amp with four Tung Sol KT150's
and Klipsch Cornwall IV's.
Any suggestions on whether to swap the preamp tubes and, if so, with recommended options will be greatly appreciated.
Thanks,
Jay
I have have had very good results using Siemens ECC88 (6922) vintage tubes fro both my current CJ GAT preamp and my previous Sonic Frontiers SFL-2. The Siemens CCA is yet another level better, but are rare as hen's teeth and obscenely expensive, My second favorite is the vintage Philips Miniwatt 6922. |
If brightness is a problem and you want a bit of warmth you might try JJ 6922's. They don't get great press (JJ in general). They aren't NOS either, but they are inexpensive. I used them for some years in both a pre-amp and CDP with great success. FWIW, they aren't noisy either. Of all of the new production tubes they get my vote if 'brightness' is an issue. |
I find that AI can be good for a starting point with sound characteristics. It often can point in the right direction. I’d recommend trying your own searches. But here is the results of a quick one I performed.
The sonic characteristics of 6DJ8/6922/7308 tubes in preamplifiers are known for their warmth, lushness, and a natural, slightly rounded sound signature, often described as having a "sweet" and "silky" quality, particularly in the midrange and lower regions. Here’s a more detailed breakdown:
This is too open a search. They often get better as you get more specific. |
Could also be the KT150's IMO they can be overly bright tubes and IMO not a great match with Klipsch. pobably way more power then you need as well. JJ's are not the tube i'd go with if your looking for a warmer sound. you really need to look at a SET with the Corwall 4's I have two friends with them and both have, over time, migrated to SET's like 300b's, 804's etc and similar. |
Longtime member petg60, who hasn't posted since June 23, 2023...and I think may have died due to his prior relatively high posting frequency, told me in this thread: https://forum.audiogon.com/discussions/1975-new-reflektor-6n23p-swgp-or-siemens-amperex-telefunken-cca "Try to get some 6n23p Voskhods 74-79 period and you will never look back..." He was right. |
Amperex 6922s or 7308s are by far my favorite, but they can be really expensive for a pair.....but they can be magical. Reach out to Brent Jessee https://www.audiotubes.com/6dj8.htm he keeps a great stock, and gives great advice.....and stands behind his tubes |
@thecarpathian Here ya go! I've owned one many moons ago! |
@yogiboy , No kidding! For some reason I had it in my head they don't come with remotes. Now I want one! |
@yogiboy and @thecarpathian, I'll vouch for the remote on the Quicksilver preamp. Thus far, it has worked flawlessly. |
@thecarpathian FYI: The remote is used for volume only and no other features. @jksimmons The vintage Sylvania 6DJ8 is a great sounding tube with that preamp. |