Speaker recommendations :-)


Hi there good people 

In short, wanted to hear your ideas. I am into jazz and acoustic music and this is my equipment list, maybe it will help. Listening room is around 50m2 of area.  At this moment i dont have speakers, sold last one already. ( Wilson Sophia 3 ). 

Lamm M1.2Ref. monos,  

Lamm LL1.1. preamp ,

Lamm LP1 Phono. 

dCS Apex Vivaldi Dac + Cd+ Clock + Upsampler

Turntable: Chronos Pro

 

I am not looking for the “best speakers in the Universe”, just wanted to hear some ideas , maybe they will lead to new  interesting synergy of my system.

 

Thank you for your time :-)

 

lammjunkie

The Speaker bargain of the year that everyone at the Florida Hi Fi Expo and Axpona are talking about ...Borresen X3 @ 11K.......I spent more time in that room than any other.....Fit, Finish and sound was right up there with the 30-50 K guys.

Usher speakers are an absolute must hear and a huge value, and gorgeous. 

All new improved JBL L100 Classic Black Edition sounded better than the Revel Ultima Salon 2 Speakers, some say are one of the best speakers on the market !

 https://www.hifipig.com/axpona-2023-show-report/

Any of the Usher speakers with their DMD Diamond tweeter, Revel Studio2/Salon 2, Raidho, and the later Wilson’s. I have owned many of the Ushers and still own a pair along with a pair of Revel.

Guys, thank you all for interesting recommendations.

Many speakers you mentioned i didnt hear, but here in Croatia, Europe, in city where i live i know some people with some of them and i think i will contact them and arrange listening. 

Ps. 
Yes, i figured out yesterday 😂…that i wrote name “Kronos” wrong. I sometimes write  “Karma” speakers wrong too, like , “Kharma, even Charma” :) :-) if i am using phone and write messages. But its ok 😊 English is not my native language so sometimes i make mistakes. 

According to some more expensive speakers combinations, I always liked Magico S7 , but here in Croatia, i think no one has them. But i understand that they are very expensive.
I was wondering, in general, adding subs would create more detailed sounds picture.

Jazz is very dynamic music, if you listen artists like

Bror Fredrik "Esbjörn" Svensson , from Esjborn Swenson trio 

or maybe Yaron Herman Trio.

So, i will see how things go. I was even considering some PMC speakers like Fenestria , because i have PMC passive monitors in studio and they sound great for mixing and mastering. ATC are great too . 

 

 

 

Take a look and listen at Fleetwoods, they are a little off the beaten path but sound fantastic.  I listen to the same type of music and absolutely love the sound of the horns coming from these speakers. They fill the room with sound similar to the way my Maggie’s did. 

@lammjunkie 

"At this moment i don't have speakers, sold last one already."

Interesting first post.

So, what are you listening to while you have $250M worth of components and no speakers?

what’s Chronos Pro? Kronos? It’s a 45K TT.

Go with Kharma speakers, it comes already mispelled :)

My Martin Logan Classic 9’s make jazz a totally immersive experience, for larger rooms one can get the 11A, 13A or for a large room the 15A’s.   Guitar, piano and female vocals are just plain lifelike. 

If you can wait a while the new Emerald Physics line is coming out. They are of open baffle design, so no cabinet resonance to contend with. I'm hoping they will be as efficient as the old line. The old ones image as good as any speaker I've heard and are very efficient. They come with an external crossover so can single-bi-or tri-amped. Very detailed and dynamic....Kind of like a dynamic sounding Magnepan. They used a coaxial tweeter/midrange arrangement. Factory direct, so pricing is extremely good. I sold my B&W 802D's to get the EP2.8's and I never looked back. Just my opinion.

If you a “live”, you are there sound, check out Volti Audio Rivals. They’re very sensitive, Horn loaded midrange & tweeters mated try o a a 15” ported woofer in a not crazy big, well made & well finished cabinet.

They’re very dynamic at any volume level, detailed, image well w/ nice body & tone w/ a good source which it seems like you certainly have. Voltis are considerably better quality than any Klipsch products in build & sound quality.

If you’re after more of a highly etched, “ hifi” sound, there are many other fine suggestions mentioned. Imo, if you want the best of both, you gotta spend a real lot of $ on both the speakers & the heroic amplification to match. I think the Voltis are a very good balance of the two for about $15K.

Another vote for Klipsch Cornwalls, these horn front ported speakers are so good and you will not experience any listening fatigue. I listen to jazz and acoustic music  hours every day. 

I have the ATC SCM 19s - I find them excellent for Jazz and classical . Especially piano - piano notes are rich, tight and solid.

 

I use them with a Dynaudio 18s sub.

I would go with the Wilson Sasha DAWs. I don’t love the older Wilsons. The tweeter had gone through a half dozen revisions since the Sophias. The Darryl Wilson designs are pure magic, as far as bringing a pianist into the room. The DAWs are the first with undistorted low bass I’ve heard - also important in rendering piano!

For jazz and all things acoustic it is very difficult to beat Harbeth 40.2 / 40.3 XD or SHL5 XD or Plus. Listen to some on Youtube and you will understand. Their rich sound is apparent even on your computer speakers or earpods.

Of course the ATCs mentioned are great - 50s to 150s

The Ocean Way Eureka’s are phenomenal.

The ATC’s and Ocean Way’s are highly regarded by audio engineers and performers because of their accuracy, dynamics and clarity.

And the Harbeth’s are similar, but with a bit more warm, rich sound - which jazz and acoustic music requires.

All of these are a bit expensive, except for the Harbeth SHL5’s - and the ATC’s and Ocean Way’s are hard to find on the pre-owned market.

After those - and a bit easier to find on the pre-owned market would be some of the JBL’s noted, and the Klipsch Forte’s, Cornwall’s and La Scalla’s.

Again - listen to these playing jazz pieces on YouTube and you will quickly understand - compared to almost anything else - except for the Quad ESL 57’s, which are the benchmark / reference for jazz and acoustic sounds (which are a bit impractical - unless rebuilt by one of the Quad specialists).

 

 

 

 

JBL 4367, no really they are amazing I have been playing with a pair for a few days. I am a fan of the Sophia 3 but feel the 4367 betters it in every way. The bass is very textured and detailed from the 15” driver. They have the best highs I have ever heard. Not just shimmers but actually delineation of every high hat ride. 

I love the Vienna acoustics beethovens. The Beethovens circa 2004 had limited spl, but managed to be some of the most involving speakers I've had and if available for a demo, worth it.

Joseph Audio Pearl, Usher TD20, Rockport Avior, Vandersteen Kento, Boenicke W13, Nola KO S3.

I’m gonna shoot out some well-respected speakers in the 20-30k range.

Kef Blade Meta

Magnepan 20.7

PS audio FR30

There's also the new, gorgeous looking Sonus Faber too.

IMO

1. only consider efficient/high sensitivity speakers, so that you can more easily try tubes later

2. full range, no passive radiators, no ports, if port, front facing only.

3. IF sub, make it a stereo pair of self powered subs, located adjacent to the FL/FR. Low bass may start mono, however the overtones become directional.

I will just say that what I would choose, is what I have heard.  Others might say, they are old dinosaurs and there is so much better out there.  The best "jazz" speakers I've ever heard are JBL L150a's.  To me the L150a, you feel like you are sitting in a jazz club and the only thing missing is the smell of cigarette smoke in the air.  I thought I knew the music of Miles Davis, Charles Mingus and Dave Brubeck or Holly Cole's Temptation .  I felt like I was in the room they were performing.  This was with a AR VSI-55 for amplification.  Whatever you end up with, I have felt that the big box speakers do things the wee little ones just can't get there.  Happy hunting.  Can't wait to see what others suggest.